Trump Tariff Threat, he's correct - We are closed: Finance, Airlines, Dairy, Phones

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

51st . 

 

I would learn French just so I can refuse to speak it as opposed to not knowing.

So you ARE a canadian!!

[paxamericana]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So you ARE a canadian!!

America has a French speaking population as well, or rather at a point in history we had more of them after the French Louisiana purchase. Some can still speak fluent French to this day, though their numbers are decreasing and are probably the last generation to do so.

Edited July 24, 2025 by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, paxamericana said:

America has a French speaking population as well, or rather at a point in history we had more of them after the French Louisiana purchase. Some can still speak fluent French to this day, though their numbers are decreasing and are probably the last generation to do so.

Too late to go back now, you've totally outed yourself you pseudo southern syrup sucker!

[SpankyMcFarland]

I have never heard Trump talk about the vast numbers of undocumented workers on US dairy farms. They depress the price of milk by breaking US law. Any discussion of a free and fair milk market between the two countries has to start there. 

[taxme]

17 hours ago, Aristides said:

Taxme wants to hand all of Canada's industries to the Americans and become one. 

Who cares. Let America invade Canada for all i care. The old Canada that once was vibrant and had a great future is now dead and has been dead for over ten years ever since the Turdster became the Marxist dictator of Canada. Canada should be one of the most wealthiest countries in the world, and all Canadians should be rich as hell. 

But we are not. Instead, Canada and Canadians are deep in debt thanks to the Marxist lieberals in Ottawa that have done a magnificent job of trying to bankrupt Canada. And yet, there are still fools like you who will still vote for the Marxist lieberals no matter what. I bet that you cannot even tell me as to what the Marxist lieberals in Ottawa have done in the past ten years to try and make Canada great. 

And now left wing lieberals you went and put another disaster in Ottawa called Carnage who in the next four more years should finish off Canada for good. All i can say is RIP Canada. It has been a slice knowing you. 😒

God bless America. RIP Canada. 😁

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I have never heard Trump talk about the vast numbers of undocumented workers on US dairy farms. They depress the price of milk by breaking US law. Any discussion of a free and fair milk market between the two countries has to start there. 

Well the problem is you're wrong, it doesn't have to start there. Trump can just come in and say you'll do what you're told or I'll give you 100% tariffs. And so far that's been working just fine for him

[taxme]

17 hours ago, Aristides said:

 

 

Ya, the price would drop in half until all the farmers went out of business and then it would quadruple for lack of supply. Cows aren't machines that you can turn on and off like a production line. First they have to be born and grow old enough to get pregnant and have a calf and then you can't shut them off until they have finished producing milk. Then you still have the expense of keeping them even if they aren't producing, or selling them for beef. Then when demand ramps up again there are no cows to produce the milk because economics have force the farmers to sell them. Damn you city folks are ignorant.

https://www.agriculture.com/usda-to-compensate-farmers-for-dumped-milk-7968469

 

Everything in Canada would drop if only the left wing lieberal party would just get lost and out of the fkn way of progress. Corruption and greed does not make a country great. It makes a country poor and broke.

That is what you support because anyone who voted for the lieberals in the last fraudulent election again are either to stupid to see what the lieberals have done in the past ten years or do know what the leiberals have done in the past ten years but still want to support the lieberals and their overall aim of the destruction of Canada. If you voted for the lieberals than that makes you pretty much a globalist communist. What more can be said about you, comrade. 🤡

[SpankyMcFarland]

42 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well the problem is you're wrong, it doesn't have to start there. Trump can just come in and say you'll do what you're told or I'll give you 100% tariffs. And so far that's been working just fine for him

In most sectors, Trump is finding out that, surprise, surprise, tariff taxes will rapidly bite him in the backside by feeding inflation. The bigger the tariff, the bigger the bite. Hence the constant back and forth on tariffs. 

On dairy products, and agricultural products generally, where we are a net importer, Republicans should be forced to acknowledge their hypocrisy by journalists, ranting about undocumented workers but dependent on their work. Whether it’s the first, second or third thing is utterly irrelevant. It has to be in the mix and I mostly don’t see it there.

Edited July 24, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

In most sectors, Trump is finding out that, surprise, surprise, tariff taxes will rapidly bite him in the backside by feeding inflation. The bigger the tariff, the bigger the bite. Hence the constant back and forth on tariffs. 

 

He considers that to be a short-term problem and acceptable.

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On dairy products, and agricultural products generally, where we are a net importer, Republicans should be forced to acknowledge their hypocrisy by journalists, ranting about undocumented workers but dependent on their work. Whether it’s the first, second or third thing is utterly irrelevant. It has to be in the mix and I mostly don’t see it there.

You're not forcing anybody to do anything especially reporters.

For better for worse unless carney is willing to put up one hell of a fight, which we all thought he was but he very clearly is not, trump is going to be able to dictate the way things go. It's obviously is intent to rape and pillage as much as humanly possible economically and then have things settled down and be resolved favorably by the beginning of the fourth quarter, And then inflationary pressures will begin to ease and hopefully if his plan works then wages will begin to go up and the economy will pick up.

That's the reality we live in. In order to thwart that we would have to be willing to go all in and put up a hell of a fight and do everything humanly possible to disrupt or injure the American economy and to make sure that trump wore the blame for it, and do so for at least a year at great expense to ourselves.

Carney is not willing to do that. We picked the wrong guy. We'll take what we get

[SpankyMcFarland]

I’m a wheat beer fan and there are currently only two Canadian wheat beers worthy of the name available in my liquor store:

1. Blanche de Chambly from Quebec. Excellent beer, of course. 

https://www.unibroue.com/en-ca/beers/classics/blanche-de-chambly

2. Happy Valley from Labrador City which is surprisingly good. Any aficianados of Hefeweizen beer (brewed in the traditional Bavarian way) should certainly try it.

https://nlliquor.com/product/iron-rock-brewing-co-happy-valley-hefeweizen-473ml/

If Canadian free trade would bring me more beers as good as these then I’m all for it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[eyeball]

On 7/24/2025 at 4:44 PM, CdnFox said:

In order to thwart that we would have to be willing to go all in and put up a hell of a fight and do everything humanly possible to disrupt or injure the American economy and to make sure that trump wore the blame for it, and do so for at least a year at great expense to ourselves.

What fight? We really don't need to do anything while Trump is the one doing the damage.

But in the meantime what fight?  I mean sure I'm all for a showdown but it should be along the lines of cutting off oil and electricity and as far as taking local action goes, kicking US tuna boats out of our Pacific EEZ...especially since Canadians have been kicked out of the their EEZ for years now.

Canadians really don't have a clue how badly Ottawa represents us when push comes to shove.

 

[blackbird]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Canadians really don't have a clue how badly Ottawa represents us when push comes to shove.

Premier Ford threatened to put a 25% tariff on electricity to several U.S. states or cut off their electricity.  This lasted about 24 hours until he was called to the White House and given the facts (which the public was not told).  He quickly withdrew the threat.  I wonder why?

Perhaps he was told the straight goods, that is, that the U.S. would come in and take over control of the electricity.  He suddenly saw the light and realized he was really powerless.   One doesn't cut off essential things like electricity and not expect a major reaction.  There are some things Canada can not do if they wish to remain a sovereign country.  

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

One doesn't cut off essential things like electricity and not expect a major reaction.  There are some things Canada can not do if they wish to remain a sovereign country.  

That's why we need nukes.

Not to mention a little courage and conviction.

[Aristides]

32 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's why we need nukes.

Not to mention a little courage and conviction.

Don't cut them off, just make them pay more. 

 

Edited July 26, 2025 by Aristides

[paxamericana]

36 minutes ago, blackbird said:

There are some things Canada can not do if they wish to remain a sovereign country.  

Good. I’m glad some Canadians understand this.

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Don't cut them off, just make them pay more. 

We’ll just nuke you

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Don't cut them off, just make them pay more. 

That would probably be even more radical.

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Good. I’m glad some Canadians understand this.

We’ll just nuke you

Trump put a 10% tariff on energy so Americans paying more is good thing. Right. So let's help them out and let them pay even more.

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Good. I’m glad some Canadians understand this.

Post annexation those will be the first that terrorists target for revenge.

Will America be there for them? Recall the poor Marsh Arabs Bush Sr abandoned to Saddam's tender mercies.

[paxamericana]

13 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Post annexation those will be the first that terrorists target for revenge.

Canadians just need to get over this idea of sovereignty and accept reality for what it is. Canada is already a unincorporated US territory. Being the 51st is the best deal on the table. The alternative is being left out in the cold and devolving into Haiti. 

Edited July 26, 2025 by paxamericana

[LinkSoul60]

16 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Trump put a 10% tariff on energy so Americans paying more is good thing. Right. So let's help them out and let them pay even more.

The stupidity of his supporters is truly something to behold.  B*tched about 'Biden' inflation, but seem to have no problem with the self-inflicted inflation that is forthcoming.  The country has turned into a joke that will see them lose their world standing in time.  Can't be a super power with no friends...

[eyeball]

12 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Canadians just need to get over this idea of sovereignty and accept reality for what it is. Canada is already a unincorporated US territory. Being the 51st is the best deal on the table. The alternative is being left out in the cold and devolving into Haiti. 

Absorb us and the US will never be the same - it'll be a case of changeing the system from within.

[paxamericana]

20 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Can't be a super power with no friends...

Unless your friends are deadbeat leeches , who need enemies with friends like that? 

 

11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Absorb us and the US will never be the same - it'll be a case of changeing the system from within.

I agree it would be an adjustment. We know the political math. But this is not unprecedented, you’re no different than 5 million Ron Paul and 33 Million Elizabeth Warrens. We bought territory from the Russian, French, Brits and Spain. You will die along with your bitterness and this patchwork of hatred. But your children and grandchildren will be Americans.

Edited July 26, 2025 by paxamericana

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

But your children and grandchildren will be Americans.

And theirs along with yours will simply be Earthlings.

The Federation is inevitable. Resistance is futile even if there will be no end to it.

[paxamericana]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And theirs along with yours will simply be Earthlings.

The Federation is inevitable. Resistance is futile even if there will be no end to it.

That's putting the cart before the horse. AI might bring down the tower of babel but we are not there yet. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

What fight?

 

The one the guy you voted for promised. Elbows up!

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We really don't need to do anything while Trump is the one doing the damage.

We really should do something and then the ones we damaged will be having a chat with trump about what he's doing. Midterms start in like 12 months

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But in the meantime what fight?  I mean sure I'm all for a showdown but it should be along the lines of cutting off oil and electricity and as far as taking local action goes, kicking US tuna boats out of our Pacific EEZ...especially since Canadians have been kicked out of the their EEZ for years now.

I don't know that we need to cut it off, but we can certainly make it a hell of a lot more expensive. We already banned some American Products on our shelves, we can look at doing more along those lines. We can openly start courting chinese car makers to replace the American car makers. We can advise that we will not be part of the golden dome and we will not allow them to use Canadian soil or resources for it, which they absolutely have to have. There are a number of specific items that we can target that will hurt specific states

And we can run propaganda in every state that we do business with. Most people don't realize this but for about 50% of the American states we are their number one customer. We buy more cars from America that all other countries combined. There are a ton of states whose economy will be severely impacted by Canadian actions if we take it. Many of them red states

So with one hand we hurt them as badly as we can, with the other hand we go to their governors and we go to their senators and we go to their people in the media and on advertising and every other way we can and we point out that this is all trump's fault and it can go away tomorrow if he stops acting like a jackass. We can point out that it isn't just about trade it's about the insult we should never have happened with their best friend in the entire world.

 

The US can hurt us more than we can hurt them but that doesn't mean that we can't hurt them, and their tolerance for pain is going to be a lot lower than ours. The elected trump for a better economy, more jobs and better pay and lower inflation and all of those things will be the opposite if we push hard enough.  

But Carney is collapsing like a house of cards