Trump announces 35% tariffs on Canada starting Aug. 1

[LinkSoul60]

53 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Stable genius Trump is playing 4-D chess

Neither stable or genius applies to Trump, in any fashion.  He'd have a difficult time with checkers, let alone chess of any level.

55 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Trade instability is a feature not a bug. 

As you sip your daily orange Kool-aide, the business and investment communities would disagree this is a 'feature'.  In nobody's world is instabilty good.  

[paxamericana]

54 minutes ago, Aristides said:

MAGATS want to turn the clock back to the 1950's when the US basically had no competition. The world has moved on, the US is very important but not essential to the world economy.  The US represents less than 15% of China's total exports. Very important but not essential.

The US is very competitive when it comes to high end stuff like Semiconductor and Iphone . We're not the lowest cost producer for the lower end stuff but that's okay, that's what trading is all about, maximising comparative advantage. So for a low neighbourly cost of 35% tax, Canada can remain our supplier for essential goods like toilet paper. 

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

The US is very competitive when it comes to high end stuff like Semiconductor and Iphone . We're not the lowest cost producer for the lower end stuff but that's okay, that's what trading is all about, maximising comparative advantage. So for a low neighbourly cost of 35% tax, Canada can remain our supplier for essential goods like toilet paper. 

Hmmm, while they buy the most, them make very few semiconductors.

IPhones, until recently, were all made in China and now some are made in India...none in the US.

So, when Canada buys semiconductors and IPhones, they do not need to buy them from the US therefore, bypassing Trumps tariffs

[paxamericana]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Phones, until recently, were all made in China and now some are made in India...none in the US.

Assembled*

@ExFlyer, unless you write me a wall of text I'm not going to know your position and assume your reacts are part of the Fanclub. 

[ExFlyer]

4 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Assembled*

@ExFlyer, unless you write me a wall of text I'm not going to know your position and assume your reacts are part of the Fanclub. 

Yes "assembled", as in made, produced and retail ready. LOL The only thing American is the sales people LOL

Seems you are another American that gets confused when presented with facts..... LOL

[herbie]

OMG our latest MAGA troll has no idea that the entire World sees a criminal, 4th rate actor trying to play the part of the High School bully where he sees a leader.

The bully doesn't wake up at 4 in the morning and tweet in all caps how you better bring an extra $2 for your lunch money because he's tired of subsidizing you.

[Aristides]

40 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

The US is very competitive when it comes to high end stuff like Semiconductor and Iphone . We're not the lowest cost producer for the lower end stuff but that's okay, that's what trading is all about, maximising comparative advantage. So for a low neighbourly cost of 35% tax, Canada can remain our supplier for essential goods like toilet paper. 

You id*ots will be paying the tax, not Canadians.

[paxamericana]

18 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You id*ots will be paying the tax, not Canadians.

You first, I insist. Look Trump is very clear, unless you Canadian drug dealers clean up your act, the tariff are here to stay. 

"If Canada works with me to stop the flow of fentanyl, we will, perhaps, consider an adjustment to this letter," Trump said.

Edited July 15, 2025 by paxamericana

[ExFlyer]

31 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

You first, I insist. Look Trump is very clear, unless you Canadian drug dealers clean up your act, the tariff are here to stay. 

"If Canada works with me to stop the flow of fentanyl, we will, perhaps, consider an adjustment to this letter," Trump said.

Are you on fentanyl???   LOL

More gets through your borders in the south in 1 hour than comes from Canada in a year LOL.

Edited July 15, 2025 by ExFlyer

[LinkSoul60]

27 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

You first, I insist. Look Trump is very clear, unless you Canadian drug dealers clean up your act, the tariff are here to stay. 

"If Canada works with me to stop the flow of fentanyl, we will, perhaps, consider an adjustment to this letter," Trump said.

If you're going to troll, at least try be a somewhat educated one....   You do understand that the importer pays the tariff, don't you?  The importer will then pass the cost onto you, the consumer.

34 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So for a low neighbourly cost of 35% tax, Canada can remain our supplier for essential goods like toilet paper. 

Again, try to educate yourself before trolling. The 35% applies to good outside the USMCA agreement....

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

So for a low neighbourly cost of 35% tax, Canada can remain our supplier for essential goods like toilet paper

Jack it up as high as you want since you're so willing to pay it.

Or are you under the illusion Trump sends Carney a bill?

[paxamericana]

11 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

If you're going to troll, at least try be a somewhat educated one....   You do understand that the importer pays the tariff, don't you?  The importer will then pass the cost onto you, the consumer.

Again, try to educate yourself before trolling. The 35% applies to good outside the USMCA agreement....

I don’t speak Canadian but let me help you help me. Walk me through this thought process, I’m a Canadian fentanyl producer, I need to export into the US , I would apply for section 232 exemption as part of the USMCA requirements, if I couldn’t like 62% of all the exported goods to the us from Canada , I would pay the tariff to import. Why would someone else pay my import fee using the same business name as me, in competition with me. Tim Fenty doesn’t distribute to someone else, they sell as Tim Fenty USA. 

Edited July 15, 2025 by paxamericana

[herbie]

No you speak for Americans who despite at computer at your fingertips, the most libraries and the free-est press in the world refuse to look and believe The Supreme Liar.

That is what's SAD. Truly sad.

[LinkSoul60]

4 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

I don’t speak Canadian

Correct. You speak sh*t...

5 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

I’m a Canadian fentanyl producer

Again this would involve reading.  Try it to see how much fentanyl is coming from the Northern Border.  As you're reading you'll also find that there are far more drugs (and guns) flowing into our country from the US.  Please ask your drug and gun dealers to ease up...

But yes, ultimately you the uneducated trolling Maga will pay any tariff that your orange wonder applies.  

[Aristides]

35 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

I don’t speak Canadian but let me help you help me. Walk me through this thought process, I’m a Canadian fentanyl producer, I need to export into the US , I would apply for section 232 exemption as part of the USMCA requirements, if I couldn’t like 62% of all the exported goods to the us from Canada , I would pay the tariff to import. Why would someone else pay my import fee using the same business name as me, in competition with me. Tim Fenty doesn’t distribute to someone else, they sell as Tim Fenty USA. 

A grand total of 43 pounds of fentanyl from Canada was intercepted last year vs 11 pounds intercepted entering Canada from the US. So a net 32 pounds. Doesn't sound like much of an industry to me. 27,000 pounds was intercepted at the Mexican border but Canada is getting hit with a higher tariff. As usual your president is a lying PoS and his comments are for ignorant Americans like you. 

Edited July 15, 2025 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Stable genius Trump is playing 4-D chess. He wants to encourage local manufacturing. Trade instability is a feature not a bug. 

He's not even playing tiddlywinks.

Local manufacturing is not what America needs. America does not get ahead by trying to force jobs it can't do affordably instead of developing the jobs it could do better than anyone else. A false economy is not the way to prosperity.

Now sometimes modest tariffs in certain circumstances can make sense, I'm not exactly opposed to the occasional tariffer two.  But what trump is doing is destabilizing and what will happen in a destabilized market is that money and investment sits on the sideline till he's gone. 

This is why he's talking about eliminating capital gains tax. Is tariffs are not having the effect that he wants. Now, it's still early days and it would be foolish to think they would have changed the economy by this point but it's not looking good. The vast majority of businessmen interviewed say they'll just wait until he goes away

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

You first, I insist. Look Trump is very clear, unless you Canadian drug dealers clean up your act, the tariff are here to stay. 

"If Canada works with me to stop the flow of fentanyl, we will, perhaps, consider an adjustment to this letter," Trump said.

You can't be that stupid. Not unless you've been doing drugs yourself

Hardly any drugs come across the border. And when trump brought it up resources were spent to make sure that even the small amount that do cross are minimized.

But just in case you didn't realize it, enforcing your border is your problem. Not other people's problem. We're busy enforcing our border because you keep sending shit tons of guns across it which are used in crimes here in Canada.

The only reason trump brings it up is it gives him legal excuse and we all know it's a complete sham.

Try to be smarter than the drugs

[paxamericana]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Local manufacturing is not what America needs. America does not get ahead by trying to force jobs it can't do affordably instead of developing the jobs it could do better than anyone else. A false economy is not the way to prosperity.

Actually this was done to pivot away from China, out of necessity. We want a near shore supply chain if we can’t do it ourselves. Especially for critical industries like steel and aluminum. These tariffs are also helping Canadian industries as it keep to low cost chinesium out of the North American market. You all should be thanking president Trump for his generosity. But we both know you got your reasons. It’s not America, it’s Canada. Why else are you all be so animated by a few tariff barriers. 

[Aristides]

18 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Actually this was done to pivot away from China, out of necessity. We want a near shore supply chain if we can’t do it ourselves. Especially for critical industries like steel and aluminum. These tariffs are also helping Canadian industries as it keep to low cost chinesium out of the North American market. You all should be thanking president Trump for his generosity. But we both know you got your reasons. It’s not America, it’s Canada. Why else are you all be so animated by a few tariff barriers. 

How does tariffs on Canadian steel keep low cost steel out North America? Is the US buying from China and dumping it in Canada. That's one of the dumbest things I've heard lately. 

[paxamericana]

Just now, Aristides said:

US buying from China and dumping it in Canada. That's one of the dumbest things I've heard lately. 

No, Canadian transshipment of Chinese goods is at an all time high. Tariff is the insurance policy against the lack of Canadian enforcement 

[Aristides]

Canada has had a 25% tariff on Chinese steel since last August. Try again.

Edited July 15, 2025 by Aristides

[paxamericana]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Canada has had a 25% tariff on Chinese steel since last August. Try again.

And yet your import number remain flat for chinesium. Numbers don't lie Canucks. You either failed to enforce the tariff or unwilling. Consider 35% tariff a slap on the wrist. Keep it up, It'll be 145%

 

[Aristides]

51 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

And yet your import number remain flat for chinesium. Numbers don't lie Canucks. You either failed to enforce the tariff or unwilling. Consider 35% tariff a slap on the wrist. Keep it up, It'll be 145%

 

So make it a 145%, you twits will be paying it.

[herbie]

The twit simply does ot understand that if i sell him a lump of copper for $10 that HE pays $15 and I still get my $10. His govt gets the extra $5 therefore it is a TAX of 50% in reality.
Simply calling it something else he thinks he's avoiding a tax as all Americans loathe that word so much they'll happily convince themselves black is white.

And after buying that $10 lump of copper because the US made one was $12 is convinced the copper makers will spend billions of dollars and years of effort and he'll be able to buy it from them for LESS than the $12 they used to charge.
You stupid f*cking fool, they'll either pass the tariff on and charge you $17 or go through all that money and effort and you'll pay $17 so they earn their ROI and it still costs you $17 for $10 worth of copper. What's easier?

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

And yet your import number remain flat for chinesium. Numbers don't lie Canucks. You either failed to enforce the tariff or unwilling. Consider 35% tariff a slap on the wrist. Keep it up, It'll be 145%

 

Actually numbers do lie if used incorrectly....  First tariffs on steel went into effect Oct/24, so call it 9 months ago. A graph from 2020 to present is for....what?  Secondly like all imported goods that are also produced domestically, when consumption outpaces production, you import more. That's why the US imports ~25% of their steel needed and ~50% of aluminum needed. You'll be paying for those tariffs, fyi.  Lastly, it's a 50% global tariff (ex UK), not 35%

Said it earlier but if you're going to troll, at least try to do it well....