Is Poilievre screwing up again?

[ExFlyer]

23 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

He did not flood Canada with hundreds of thousands of Muslims.

He did not impose greenie chickenshit taxes.

He did not embarrass Canada.

He is not owned by the Trump family.

"Elbows Up" pea-brains.

Are you really defending a long lost and over Harper that had to bail out ??? 

Oh yes, PP is owned by Trump, just like Smith from Alberta. LOL

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2025/04/10/the-canadian-leader-who-cant-escape-trumps-shadow-00285624

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/frontburner/pierre-poilievre-s-donald-trump-problem-1.7491683

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/m-le-mag/article/2024/11/22/pierre-poilievre-canada-s-trump-inspired-conservative-leader_6733728_117.html

Elbows Up again?? (which is what Mike Meyers said on Saturday Night Live after Carney won the election and PP was history already  LOL). You are like PP, recycling old slogans that are worn out and tired...like your leader LOL.  Hey, you can revive "axe the tax" and “stop the crime,” “build the homes,” “fix the budget,” or “name and shame,” to your repertoire too LOL.  I like the "build the homes" one the best as PP, when he was housing minister built all of 6 home the entire time LOL

And lastly, your hero in action   https://www.facebook.com/reel/1075497784627289

Edited July 5, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Moonlight Graham]

I agree that PP doesn't have good political instincts.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Ha Ha Ha

You are both delusional LOL

PP will only whine and complain like he has for the past 20 years LOL

He has done nothing.

 

Wow, poilievre sure has you scared doesn't he? It's like every second post you are desperately trying to convince yourself that it's going to be okay for you. Relax, we're probably at least a year away from another election

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I agree that PP doesn't have good political instincts.

How do you explain him taking the conservatives up to 41% then?

[ExFlyer]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Wow, poilievre sure has you scared doesn't he? ...

It's like every second post you are desperately

How do you explain him taking the conservatives up to 41% then?

Blah Blah Blah...The LOSER Whines again LOL

I just love rubbing your noes in it... 

41% is a LOSS LOL Close only counts in horseshoes, Corn Hole and grenades LOL

Yoo Hoo...you are trolled again..Ha Ha Ha. You get sucked in every time...How fun it that...for me LOL

Edited July 5, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Army Guy]

On 7/4/2025 at 9:27 AM, ExFlyer said:

WHAT'S BROKEN IN CANADA? The obvious answer....a useless, undereducated, unqualified a$$hole who sat in Parliament for twenty years, didn't accomplish a goddamn thing, didn't help a single Canadian, lost the election, lost his own seat, but still desperately pretends to be legitimate as he continues to stay in a 19 room mansion at taxpayer's expense that he DID NOT EARN. As his polling numbers continue to plunge, his initials now should be interpreted as ' PLUNGING POPULARITY.' WHAT'S BROKEN IN CANADA? A political party that has NO legitimately elected leader, NO direction for themselves and the country, and NO real vision for Canada moving forward. There isn't a SINGLE Tory MP that can even hope to compare to Mark Carney's vast education, experience, expertise, international connections, the respect he garners from other world leaders and financiers, and his simple decency as a human being. What's broken in Canada is Pierre Poilievre, his whiny, weak, self entitled attitude, and the incompetence and hilarious, flailing boobery of the entire Conservative party...

Man he lives in your head for free....your party won, enjoy that feeling and that experience...who cares what PP is doing or about to do....according to you our country is going in the right direction, be happy with that...instead your way to concerned with what PP is doing like he has the black death...let conservatives worry about who their leader is...your going to work yourself into a heart attack....before PP gets elected...we want you to see and hear about this great victory....

Liberal Party Has a full plate with fixing everything justin broke...lets focus on that....PP is not even in the race right now...

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Blah Blah Blah...The LOSER Whines again LOL

I just love rubbing your noes in it... 

41% is a LOSS LOL Close only counts in horseshoes, Corn Hole and grenades LOL

Yoo Hoo...you are trolled again..Ha Ha Ha. You get sucked in every time...How fun it that...for me LOL

 Sure kid  

  

🍿🍿🍿 [munch munch] 🍿🍿🍿

 

Well it is the weekend so you're allowed to drink

[ExFlyer]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 Sure kid  

  

 [munch munch] 

 

Well it is the weekend so you're allowed to drink

Hooked ya again...  such an easy catch

Munchin on my hooks LOL

 

[ExFlyer]

31 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Man he lives in your head for free....your party won, enjoy that feeling and that experience...who cares what PP is doing or about to do....according to you our country is going in the right direction, be happy with that...instead your way to concerned with what PP is doing like he has the black death...let conservatives worry about who their leader is...your going to work yourself into a heart attack....before PP gets elected...we want you to see and hear about this great victory....

Liberal Party Has a full plate with fixing everything justin broke...lets focus on that....PP is not even in the race right now...

Oh I do. I only respond to wind him up.

I am as concerned as you about this country. Carney has not even been 100 days after the election and he has pretty big  issues to resolve or solve. I will give him time. I think he can get us out of this crap.

PP has issues too, his party has big issues as well. Lets see what the party does to get better and I will get back to voting for them.

Do you actually think I am stressed by confux, taxthem user etc?? Hardly, they are my entertainment. I have nothing to do except goad them on.

For sure there is work to do by the Liberal but really, How can I stop baiting confux...he is so much fun and easy to hook.   

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Hooked ya again...  such an easy catch

Munchin on my hooks LOL

 

   

🍿🍿🍿 [munch munch] 🍿🍿🍿

[Moonlight Graham]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

How do you explain him taking the conservatives up to 41% then?

How do you explain PP losing his seat?

Pierre started copying Trump slogans like "Canada First" along with introducing some Trump-esque policy proposals during his campaign at a time when anti-Trump sentiment was at an all-time high in the country due to 51st state rhetoric and tariffs etc.  Terrible judgement.

[ExFlyer]

37 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

 

It worked, again and again and again...

And will work again...you are such a sucker and gets trolled every time LOL

LOSER!!! Ha Ha Ha

[Barquentine]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

How do you explain him taking the conservatives up to 41% then?

And still losing an election he should have won! La-hoo-sa-her. as Ace Ventura would say.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Oh I do. I only respond to wind him up.

 

kid, read it again   He was talking about pp living in your head rent free  

What he's pointing out is that despite the fact the libs won, you're STILL completely obsessing with the guy. And how are you 'winding him up'?

He didn't mention me at all   And yet YOU went on about me assuming that's what he was thinking when he obviously wasn't  

You just proved you're stressing about me and that the only person  wound up is you   LOLOLOL  I live rent free right beside PP in your head LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

How do you explain PP losing his seat?

 

That's pretty simple. The riding was redrawn for this election and included a lot more liberal and NDP neighborhoods. And the liberals and NDP came together this election. 

Prime minister candidates don't tend to have time to deal with their own writings so normally somebody else deals with that for them and make sure the writing is going the way it should and puts the resources into it if necessary. Obviously someone took that writing for granted and dropped the ball. It's horribly embarrassing there's no two ways about it

But that doesn't answer my question. If he's so bad at it why did he get 41% of the vote? Why did he get more than just about any other conservative leader and most liberal leaders going back to Mulroney?

I was kind enough to answer your question, despite the fact you answered it second. Have you got the balls to answer mine or are you just a loser who's repeating what his echo chamber tells him?

Edited July 6, 2025 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

And still losing an election he should have won! La-hoo-sa-her. as Ace Ventura would say.

Why should he have won it? The liberals pulled a lot of dirty tricks to manage to pull out a win. Didn't break any laws but they definitely Pulled a lot of scummy stuff.

And thanks to trump who clearly wanted the liberals in and not the conservatives and bragged about that afterwards, Friday was able to pull the NDP vote in.

They were only a couple percent apart in public support. They did almost identical. Sure, carting one and the NDP was all but destroyed. 

So ....  say what you like but he still did pretty good.  Yeah you get to take the victory lap and don't think we'll forget it when the time comes  but only by cheating his ass off did carney win.  The cpc won their vote honestly. 

[Barquentine]

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The liberals pulled a lot of dirty tricks to manage to pull out a win. Didn't break any laws but they definitely Pulled a lot of scummy stuff.

Every time you guys lose: Waa waa, it was rigged - they cheated... The simple truth:  PeePee Phucked up and you guys lost! Time for you to stop crying about it>

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Every time you guys lose: Waa waa, it was rigged - they cheated... The simple truth:  PeePee Phucked up and you guys lost! Time for you to stop crying about it>

Nobody said it was rigged but it is absolutely truthful that the liberals did a number of things that were pretty slimy. 

You're dishonesty on the matter is part of the problem. Instead of having a civil conversation about it you try and dismiss it when you know it's the absolute truth.

Which is fine. They didn't do anything illegal, just things that are immoral by tradition or common sense. Just keep that in mind in the future that this was something that you found absolutely acceptable

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's pretty simple. The riding was redrawn for this election and included a lot more liberal and NDP neighborhoods.

What's your evidence for this?  Looking at the maps, in 2025 they reduced the amount of suburbs and increased the rural area for PP's riding:

2021:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carleton_(Ontario_federal_electoral_district)#/map/0

2025:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carleton_(Ontario_federal_electoral_district)#/map/1

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And the liberals and NDP came together this election. 

Yes.  The PPC didn't run this election and those would logically go to the CPC.  The NDP, Greens, and Bloc all lost votes this election, and some went to the CPC but most went to the Liberals.  The Liberals gained 11.1% compared to 2021, and the CPC gained 7.6%.  And in PP's riding virtually nobody voted NDP or Green.  He scared the left to vote Liberal because of his Trumpisms.

Remember, in the previous 2 elections the CPC actually won the popular vote, but they lost the popular vote this time.

PP blew it, with Trump's help with all the 51st state crap and tariffs.  People saw Carney as more anti-Trump and more likely to fight back on him, while PP seemed more Trump-friendly.  Trump screwed PP's chances and PP just made the situation worse.

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Prime minister candidates don't tend to have time to deal with their own writings so normally somebody else deals with that for them and make sure the writing is going the way it should and puts the resources into it if necessary. Obviously someone took that writing for granted and dropped the ball. It's horribly embarrassing there's no two ways about it

But that doesn't answer my question. If he's so bad at it why did he get 41% of the vote? Why did he get more than just about any other conservative leader and most liberal leaders going back to Mulroney?

I was kind enough to answer your question, despite the fact you answered it second. Have you got the balls to answer mine or are you just a loser who's repeating what his echo chamber tells him?

Keep in mind I was for the CPC over the Liberals last election.  And sorry but if you're the party leader and keep standing in front of a podium with "Canada First" written on it and spout Trump-like policy proposals that's on you.  They doubled down on the Trump-like branding and it didn't work, it was an incredibly stupid political strategy given the anti-Trump sentiment in the country.  Sure maybe he wasn't the one who thought of it, but he ok'd it and implemented it.  Like I said before, he's gotta read the room FFS.

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why should he have won it?

The Liberals had led the country into the worst state its been arguably since WWII/Depression era.  PP let some political rookie come in and take the election from him.  The CPC were up in the polls by at least 10 points since late 2023 until Trudeau resigned and Trump opened his dumb fat mouth.  On Jan 1st this year the polls were 45% CPC, 20% Liberals, 19% NDP.

https://338canada.com/polls.htm

Edited July 6, 2025 by Moonlight Graham

[August1991]

On 7/2/2025 at 9:59 AM, Barquentine said:

So he's running in a Conservative seat in Alberta.

1: Makes him look like a coward to play it so safe.

2: Fortifies the idea the Cons are a Western grievance party.

3: Hell have to pander to the far right.

4: He'll have to talk about Alberta separation a lot.

5: He may get a lower percentage than that riding got in the general election.

This guy just doesn't have good political instinct.

Coward?

Barquentine, I have not read through this thread.

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Mackenzie King lost a seat, and then ran in the same election, to become PM.

Mulroney lost, then ran in Nova Scotia, and won in Quebec.

Pickersgill was parachuted.

Welcome to Canadian politics.

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What strikes me about Poilievre is that he's like Nixon (or Clinton). He comes back.

Edited July 6, 2025 by August1991

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

What's your evidence for this?  Looking at the maps, in 2025 they reduced the amount of suburbs and increased the rural area for PP's riding:

2021:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carleton_(Ontario_federal_electoral_district)#/map/0

2025:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carleton_(Ontario_federal_electoral_district)#/map/1

You ask for evidence as to whether or not they redo the riding and then you provide maps showing they redrew the riding.

Are you trying to be funny or something?

At any rate the additional areas are not traditionally conservative supporters there traditionally liberal and you can look at the history of the voting and the area to see that.

that created an opportunity where a percentage of the people were not used to voting for him already.

As to the NDP issue bruce fanjoy who won the riding has talked about all these issues extensively and you can see his interviews on the net.  He was very clear that he'd been working for 2 years going door to door putting in the effort but wasn't really getting anywhere, right until trump came along with the 51'st state stuff.  Then things changed radically and the left coalesced behind him and people "new" to the riding due to the redraw really responded and he says it was largely the fear of trump. 

So what appears to have happened is that the CPC did regular polling in the area and didn't see a huge cause for concern even tho numbers were down a  little, and then trump changed things and they didn't pick up on  it till it was too late. 

I have little reason to doubt fanjoy's account. 

So the riding was redrawn, then the ndp and libs got together over fear of trump, and PP was in trouble and nobody caught that till about half way through the election, 

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

And in PP's riding virtually nobody voted NDP or Green.  He scared the left to vote Liberal because of his Trumpisms.

Prove that. The guy who won there said that trump was the person that scared the people. Why do you think he was lying?

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Remember, in the previous 2 elections the CPC actually won the popular vote, but they lost the popular vote this time.

Not relevant to the issue at hand. Poilievre added about eight points to the previous cPC tallies, if he was doing so badly how is that possible

 

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eep in mind I was for the CPC over the Liberals last election.  And sorry but if you're the party leader and keep standing in front of a podium with "Canada First" written on it and spout Trump-like policy proposals that's on you.  They doubled down on the Trump-like branding and it didn't work, it was an incredibly stupid political strategy given the anti-Trump sentiment in the country.  Sure maybe he wasn't the one who thought of it, but he ok'd it and implemented it.  Like I said before, he's gotta read the room FFS.

Hey. Dipshit. 

I asked you a simple question I have taken the time to answer yours and you are dodging mine like a true liberal supporter. So I don't really believe you when you say you were for the conservatives. You sound like you're for the liberals and you're dodging simple questions instead of answering them like any honest conservative would

If Poilievre did so bad, how did he manage to get a larger percentage of the vote share than any other conservative leader and almost every other liberal leader going back 40 years?

Are you going to answer that or you going to p**sy out again? 

[ExFlyer]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Wow, poilievre sure has you scared doesn't he? It's like every second post you are desperately trying to convince yourself that it's going to be okay for you. Relax, we're probably at least a year away from another election

How do you explain him taking the conservatives up to 41% then?

Scared of PP?? Why on earth would I be scared??? 

If he wins the safest Conservative seat in the by election, he will sit in parliament and whine and moan and complain just like the has for the past 20 years but,...he will still only be the opposition.

As I said before...41% only got him close and that only counts in horseshoes, corn hole and grenades LOL.

Most important, 59% of Canadians did not vote for PP.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Scared of PP?? Why on earth would I be scared??? 

 

I'm  not sure,  It's hard to think down to your level. I mean how is a human supposed to understand the mind of a dung beetle?

But based on your comments and how you behaved I would say that you feel that carney is a fraud and pretty quick everyone's going to realize it, and the ndp and CPC will force an election. If that happens chances are good PP will throw him out. You seem petrified of that. 

And that's a pretty valid concern i guess. 

I mean why else would you spend so much time worrying about PP?  As another poster pointed out he lives rent free in your head like 24/7. You're constantly worrying about him and talking about him and begging for us to agree that he should leave and so on and so forth. None of the other liberal supporters here do that. So it's obviously on your brain.

Although I feel like we shouldn't rule out the possibility that you're just kind of a dumb twat whose brain randomly obsesses over things due to some mental health issues. That would explain it to.

 

[PIK]

Look at the numbers from the election,  PP did great. Getting pooped on by most of the media, and they still are attacking him. That's because they know carney is a dud and PP is going be the next PM.

[LinkSoul60]

9 minutes ago, PIK said:

Look at the numbers from the election,  PP did great. Getting pooped on by most of the media, and they still are attacking him. That's because they know carney is a dud and PP is going be the next PM.

PP did awesome...  Only lost his seat and now has to go to AB to try and find one.