Donnie strikes three Iranian nuclear sites

[User]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

https://www.politifact.com/article/2018/may/08/trump-withdrew-us-iran-nuclear-deal-heres-what-you/?_gl=1*x43kov*_ga*MzUzMjUxMDM4LjE3NTA2MDQ4NTg.*_ga_EDXB0TJGGY*czE3NTA2MzE2MzQkbzMkZzAkdDE3NTA2MzE2MzQkajYwJGwwJGgw

Once again, read it. 

What you claimed was not true. 

[Aristides]

 

 

 

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Over the 28 months the deal has been in effect, the International Atomic Energy Agency, the foremost authority on the matter, said it found Iran committed no violations — aside from some minor infractions that were rectified.

Which is basically what UN inspectors were saying about Saddam's WMD's right up to the day Bush invaded. There weren't any.

 

I swallowed the WMD lie in 2003. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Edited June 22, 2025 by Aristides

[User]

19 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 

 

 

Which is basically what UN inspectors were saying about Saddam's WMD's right up to the day Bush invaded. There weren't any.

 

I swallowed the WMD lie in 2003. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

This is not the argument. You tried to claim:

"Trump shitcanned the deal that had them giving it up and dumped a bunch of sanctions on them instead. "

The deal never had them giving it up. 

Enough of your stupid lies. 

[CdnFox]

41 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 

 

 

Which is basically what UN inspectors were saying about Saddam's WMD's right up to the day Bush invaded. There weren't any.

 

I swallowed the WMD lie in 2003. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

No one actually claimed that Iran had nuclear weapons. They claimed they were enriching uranium and we're very close to being able to build one.

That is undeniably true. Whether or not they were actually going to do something the enrichment facilities did exist. That's what the Americans bombed. Absolutely nobody anywhere including Iran is claiming otherwise, they absolutely had the capacity to enrich that uranium and the Americans just took that capacity away

Whether or not you think Iran would have eventually decided to build a bomb or not but you can't even remotely compare it to Iraq. There's absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the facilities were there

 

[Aristides]

33 minutes ago, User said:

This is not the argument. You tried to claim:

"Trump shitcanned the deal that had them giving it up and dumped a bunch of sanctions on them instead. "

The deal never had them giving it up. 

Enough of your stupid lies. 

WTF are you talking about. Iran didn't break the deal, Trump did and then he piled a bunch of sanctions on them. The International Atomic Energy Agency and all your allies were saying Iran was complying except for some minor exceptions. 

[User]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

WTF are you talking about. Iran didn't break the deal, Trump did and then he piled a bunch of sanctions on them. The International Atomic Energy Agency and all your allies were saying Iran was complying except for some minor exceptions. 

I just quoted the BS you said earlier and have been running from ever since. That is what I’m talking about.

 

[Aristides]

Just now, User said:

I just quoted the BS you said earlier and have been running from ever since. That is what I’m talking about.

 

You don't know WTF you are talking about.  Do you even understand English?

Edited June 22, 2025 by Aristides

[User]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

You don't know WTF you are talking about.  Do you even understand English?

This is not the argument. You tried to claim:

"Trump shitcanned the deal that had them giving it up and dumped a bunch of sanctions on them instead. "

The deal never had them giving it up. 

Enough of your stupid lies. 

[Aristides]

18 minutes ago, User said:

This is not the argument. You tried to claim:

"Trump shitcanned the deal that had them giving it up and dumped a bunch of sanctions on them instead. "

The deal never had them giving it up. 

Enough of your stupid lies. 

You pull the same bullshit every time you have no real response. Predictable as the sun coming up in the east.

[User]

8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You pull the same bullshit every time you have no real response. Predictable as the sun coming up in the east.

This is not the argument. You tried to claim:

"Trump shitcanned the deal that had them giving it up and dumped a bunch of sanctions on them instead. "

The deal never had them giving it up. 

Enough of your stupid lies. 

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, West said:

So you want me to take Iran's word for it after all the unhinged things and actions their leader has said/done over the years over Israeli intelligence?

Nope. As I said US Intelligence is far more credible than Trump or Netanyahu. 

You've NOT HEARD ANYTHING from Mossad. Duh

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

It's not just Trump you dim-wit.

Go play with your zucchini and stop thinking you contribute anything of value. 

I contribute far more of value than ^this BULLSHIT. As I SAID neither Trump NOR Netanyahu are CREDIBLE because they're BOTH HUGE LIARS.

Edited June 23, 2025 by robosmith

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

I contribute far more of value that ^this BULLSHIT. 

It's true, your comedic value is almost immeasurable

[paxamericana]

On 6/21/2025 at 7:22 PM, Nationalist said:

Very interesting. 

Well...now we find out what the Russians and Chinese think.

It’s a message to the world. The United States possesses capability, to put at risk, any target. It does not matter how far or deep you hide. 
 

 

Edited June 23, 2025 by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

It’s a message to the world. The United States possesses capability, to put at risk, any target. It does not matter how far or deep you hide. 
 

 

Well that is certainly true, but that's not the message. The message isn't that "We can ". The message is we will.

A lot of the Bad actors around the world have always known that America could ask them up, but they always believe that for political reasons America will be reluctant to do so. Trump has just told the world that as long as he's around you can't count on that.

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, paxamericana said:

It’s a message to the world. The United States possesses capability, to put at risk, any target. It does not matter how far or deep you hide. 
 

 

We will see. I've heard reports that the valuable things were all relocated prior to the bombing.

[User]

10 hours ago, robosmith said:

I contribute far more of value than ^this BULLSHIT. As I SAID neither Trump NOR Netanyahu are CREDIBLE because they're BOTH HUGE LIARS.

Sure, you are a legend in your own mind... 

You run away from almost every thread you have ever been in when you get called out for posting something ignorant or lying or you outright run and hide from people like me because we rub your face in what you do so consistently. 

 

[paxamericana]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

We will see. I've heard reports that the valuable things were all relocated prior to the bombing.

It's not just about the affect to target that I'm referring to. It's the abillity to completely mitigate Iran's Oil chip. The United States is now a net exporter of oil. Even if Iran take all of their crude offline, we would still be able to bring into market American Shale. It's a much bigger picture. The US is completely self sufficient and there isn't much in the Middle East that we need. Everyone else on the otherhand does need the middle east, specifically China. The Russian can't care less, they would actually prefer if oil prices skyrocket. American Might is on full display.

Edited June 23, 2025 by paxamericana

[Shady]

17 hours ago, Aristides said:

Inspectors said otherwise. North Korea never allowed access to the sites, Iran did. Bibi's bum boy pulled the plug on the agreement and imposed sanctions over the objections of every other country that was part of it. 

https://api.politifact.com/article/2025/jun/18/Iran-nuclear-deal-Obama-Trump-Israel/

If Iran is close to developing a bomb it is directly because of Trump and Netanyahu pulling the plug on the agreement 7 years ago.

The IAEA says otherwise.  They sanctioned Iran, they also released a statement before the air strikes even took place indicating that Iran was failing to meet its obligations.

19 hours ago, robosmith said:

JPOA had inspectors ON THE GROUND in IRAN.

You don't know what's going on there. Trump has demanded unconditional surrender of Iran and is sending another Carrier group right now to carry out the attacks he's promised if they dare to refuse HIS DEMANDS. 

That is Trump's idea of negotiation. 🤮

You're believing Trump about an imminent nuclear threat over US intelligence and that is just stupid.

Trump says a lot of things.  Mostly bluster.  The IAEA sanctioned Iran fir not meeting their obligations.

[Nationalist]

46 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

It's not just about the affect to target that I'm referring to. It's the abillity to completely mitigate Iran's Oil chip. The United States is now a net exporter of oil. Even if Iran take all of their crude offline, we would still be able to bring into market American Shale. It's a much bigger picture. The US is completely self sufficient and there isn't much in the Middle East that we need. Everyone else on the otherhand does need the middle east, specifically China. The Russian can't care less, they would actually prefer if oil prices skyrocket. American Might is on full display.

Ya well...if Iranian oil is taken off the market, the price of oil will go up. Not am optimal option.

[paxamericana]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Ya well...if Iranian oil is taken off the market, the price of oil will go up. Not am optimal option.

To give you a perspective, the US produces around 14million barrels a day. Iran around 3 million barrels a day. The oil prices will go up yes but not by much. Infact, it's beneficial for the United States for oil prices to go up. Point being, we no longer need the Middle East. If anything the middle east oil producer are competitors. 

[User]

14 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

To give you a perspective, the US produces around 14million barrels a day. Iran around 3 million barrels a day. The oil prices will go up yes but not by much. Infact, it's beneficial for the United States for oil prices to go up. Point being, we no longer need the Middle East. If anything the middle east oil producer are competitors. 

That is not how the global oil market works. 

Oil comes in light, sweet, heavy, sour... 

The US refineries are optimized for certain kinds. So while we do net export, we still in fact do import Oil and some from the Middle East. 

Oil is a global market and that market is impacted heavily by the supply from the Middle East. 

 

 

[Nationalist]

40 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

To give you a perspective, the US produces around 14million barrels a day. Iran around 3 million barrels a day. The oil prices will go up yes but not by much. Infact, it's beneficial for the United States for oil prices to go up. Point being, we no longer need the Middle East. If anything the middle east oil producer are competitors. 

Gee...do us all a favor and don't get into global markets as a career.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

Trump says a lot of things.  Mostly bluster.  The IAEA sanctioned Iran fir not meeting their obligations.

What "obligations"? Those ENDED when Trump tore up the JCPOA treaty.

What about Israel's "obligations" which developed nuclear bombs in complete SECRECY?

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, User said:

That is not how the global oil market works. 

Oil comes in light, sweet, heavy, sour... 

The US refineries are optimized for certain kinds. So while we do net export, we still in fact do import Oil and some from the Middle East. 

Oil is a global market and that market is impacted heavily by the supply from the Middle East. 

 

 

The US refinery are world class, it's designed to process oil with high impurities (sour). The sweet crude is actually easier to refine not harder. In other words, it's can process all flavors.