Army Guy Posted Sunday at 11:25 PM Report Posted Sunday at 11:25 PM We just reduced the age of voting from 21 to 18 not that long ago, so why is there a push to reduce it to 16...Not sure if 16 is the age where teen agers are interesting in voting or what government is doing on their behalf, most are most concerned about the opposite sex and getting laid, or getting their first drink.... Are the majority of 16 years old , mature enough to vote? Is it even worth chasing that demographic,what would they campaign on for this generation Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonlight Graham Posted Monday at 03:17 AM Report Posted Monday at 03:17 AM Senators shouldn't be introducing bills IMO. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
herbie Posted Monday at 03:21 AM Report Posted Monday at 03:21 AM (edited) 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: We just reduced the age of voting from 21 to 18 not that long ago Good God how old are you anyway? When I voted at 18 it was 54 years ago! Think about it, you can drive a car at 16, make your own medical and most legal decisions, hardly any of them will vote and maybe it's long past the time we needed some new thinking in politics. An outright dismissal of the idea is sheer stubborness, not logical thought. Edited Monday at 03:22 AM by herbie 1 Quote
eyeball Posted Monday at 03:50 AM Report Posted Monday at 03:50 AM 23 minutes ago, herbie said: Good God how old are you anyway? When I voted at 18 it was 54 years ago! Army Guy is so conservative and olde fashioned - he must be at least 127. The meer suggestion 16 year olds might vote is on par with having to digest the thought of being forced to eat bugs in his dotage. 3 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Popular Post User Posted Monday at 04:12 AM Popular Post Report Posted Monday at 04:12 AM 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: Are the majority of 16 years old , mature enough to vote? No. They only want more ignorant and naive leftist votes.   4 1 Quote  Â
CdnFox Posted Monday at 04:44 AM Report Posted Monday at 04:44 AM Obviously they're worried that they might not be able to get enough adults to make bad choices so they need to bring in children to vote in the hopes they'll make MORE bad choices  they're too stupid to drink, but we should let them run the country 🙄 Only the left would come up with that. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Barquentine Posted Monday at 11:58 AM Report Posted Monday at 11:58 AM A lot of adults don't use much judgment when they vote. How about a cognitive test for eligiblity? Oh no - even Trump can pass one of those. Ok, let's stick with the status quo. 1 Quote
PIK Posted Monday at 12:22 PM Report Posted Monday at 12:22 PM This is a very sad move. All about votes. God help our country. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
CdnFox Posted Monday at 04:24 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:24 PM 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: A lot of adults don't use much judgment when they vote. How about a cognitive test for eligiblity? Oh no - even Trump can pass one of those. Ok, let's stick with the status quo. How about we check for mental health background issues? We know the left has vastly more mental health issue than the right, should solve our problems  Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted Monday at 05:18 PM Author Report Posted Monday at 05:18 PM 13 hours ago, herbie said: Good God how old are you anyway? When I voted at 18 it was 54 years ago! Think about it, you can drive a car at 16, make your own medical and most legal decisions, hardly any of them will vote and maybe it's long past the time we needed some new thinking in politics. An outright dismissal of the idea is sheer stubborness, not logical thought. Quote Canada lowered its federal voting age from 21 to 18 in 1970.[41][42] Most Canadian provinces soon followed suit, though several initially lowered their voting age to 19. It wasn't until 1992 when the last province, British Columbia, lowered its voting age to 18.[43] A further reduction to 16 was proposed federally in 2005, but was not adopted.[18][44] It was proposed again in 2011, but was not adopted.[45] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_age Your in BC right....1992 was not 54 years ago... Shit most Canadians can not understand the voting process, most vote based on the hair or color of socks they wear, charisma, what they look like,. look at you still voting NDP for an example who are basically irrelevant ......don't sit here and try to tell us a 16 year is capable of understanding the issues the nation faces and vital it is to understand all of those issues and how it effects Canadians... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
herbie Posted Monday at 06:57 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:57 PM 14 hours ago, User said: 19 hours ago, Army Guy said: Are the majority of 16 years old , mature enough to vote? No. Says the man who voted for and still supports Donald Trump. I haven't met any 16 year olds LESS mature. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted Monday at 06:58 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:58 PM Just now, herbie said: Says the man who voted for and still supports Donald Trump. I haven't met any 16 year olds LESS mature. "NOBODY WHO VOTES FOR ANYONE I DISAPPROVE OF SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!!" - Herbie, master of democracy. 2 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
User Posted Monday at 07:12 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:12 PM 14 minutes ago, herbie said: Says the man who voted for and still supports Donald Trump. I haven't met any 16 year olds LESS mature. OK... Quote  Â
I am Groot Posted Monday at 11:30 PM Report Posted Monday at 11:30 PM (edited) 20 hours ago, herbie said: Good God how old are you anyway? When I voted at 18 it was 54 years ago! Think about it, you can drive a car at 16, make your own medical and most legal decisions, hardly any of them will vote and maybe it's long past the time we needed some new thinking in politics. An outright dismissal of the idea is sheer stubborness, not logical thought. What has logic got to do with an insane, self-serving proposal? The human brain isn't fully developed until the early twenties. The last part of the brain to develop is the prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for planning, decision-making, and impulse control. That's why they can't sign a legal, binding contract. What the Left wants is more young people with underdeveloped brains (who are, by the way, also uneducated) because it knows it can take advantage of them. Sixteen-year-olds don't think about the future. They think about now. They're far more likely to fall for the Left's constant siren call of "Here! It's free! Look what we'll do for you! For free!" Unlike more sophisticated minds, they're probably not going to think much about all that mounting debt and how that is going to impact them later in life. Why not fourteen-year-olds? Why not twelve? Why not ten-year-olds? Do you people have any sense of morality or ethics? Logically, the age of voting should be pushed back to 23, when people's brains are fully developed. That is logical thought. Edited Monday at 11:32 PM by I am Groot Quote
herbie Posted Tuesday at 12:36 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:36 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: What has logic got to do with an insane, self-serving proposal? You stated that entirely backwards. WTF does logic have to do with dismissing the idea? Edited Tuesday at 12:36 AM by herbie Quote
eyeball Posted Tuesday at 03:58 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 03:58 AM 15 hours ago, Barquentine said: A lot of adults don't use much judgment when they vote. How about a cognitive test for eligiblity? I'd like to try drafting our representatives to Parliament similar to how we pick jurists. We'd vote for whoever was picked for the job Rather than who was presented to us. Political parties should simply be regarded as another social club. All things being equal, if your social club is the biggest and most influential it stands to reason you'll see plenty of your members becoming MP's who could advance your club's ideas. Just a broad back of the napkin idea, I'm not under any illusions it'll happen in Canada in my lifetime. I just think alternative ideas outside the box make us think about what makes the status quo worth fighting for. I think a more random nature to how we pick representatives might remove much of the money and greed for power that exists and seems to dominate in our political system. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted Tuesday at 04:23 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 04:23 AM 24 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'd like to try drafting our representatives to Parliament similar to how we pick jurists. We'd vote for whoever was picked for the job Rather than who was presented to us. Political parties should simply be regarded as another social club. All things being equal, if your social club is the biggest and most influential it stands to reason you'll see plenty of your members becoming MP's who could advance your club's ideas. Just a broad back of the napkin idea, I'm not under any illusions it'll happen in Canada in my lifetime. I just think alternative ideas outside the box make us think about what makes the status quo worth fighting for. I think a more random nature to how we pick representatives might remove much of the money and greed for power that exists and seems to dominate in our political system. Wow. Sometimes I think you're really dumb, but every now and then you say something that really proves to me that I've severely underestimated your level of stupidity  Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
MDP Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Not necessary. People need enough essential education and experience to vote. Quote
herbie Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM education AND experience? So if you're opposed to Senior high schoolers voting that would logically imply opposition to 30 year olds with less education than that voting too. And many people in care homes as well. Quote
Barquentine Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM On 6/2/2025 at 1:24 PM, CdnFox said: How about we check for mental health background issues? We know the left has vastly more mental health issue than the right, should solve our problems Ok. I'll give you a point for that one. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted Tuesday at 08:17 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 08:17 PM 1 hour ago, herbie said: education AND experience? So if you're opposed to Senior high schoolers voting that would logically imply opposition to 30 year olds with less education than that voting too. And many people in care homes as well. There are more forms of education than simple Academia. People tend to acquire knowledge over time. Learning the right thing to do with that knowledge is where experience comes in. I mean just because you haven't learned anything since high school doesn't mean other people don't  Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted Tuesday at 10:04 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 10:04 PM On 6/2/2025 at 3:57 PM, herbie said: Says the man who voted for and still supports Donald Trump. I haven't met any 16 year olds LESS mature. Not even close, voted conservative, good old donald had nothing to do with who i voted for....Donald prefers to work with liberals remember...i wonder why that is ? Well i mean trump has done more for this country than the pass liberal government has done,in 3 terms... not that it would take much to do that... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
herbie Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: There are more forms of education than simple Academia Spoken like someone who had difficulty with school. And mental health checks? You seem more eager to disqualify people from voting. Who's next, people with criminal records, in hospital? How about people who live on reserves? ArmyGuy, you may have not, but everyone else decided Donald Trump was THE issue. That 20+ point lead didn't disappear because PP wasn't Trudeau. He was the least trusted as a leader. Quote
CdnFox Posted yesterday at 12:31 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:31 AM 7 minutes ago, herbie said: Spoken like someone who had difficulty with school Actually anyone who completed School and University Is quite aware of that Which suggests to me that you never actually went to University  Hey, nothing to be embarrassed about just having a high school diploma. I assume you got that far 8 minutes ago, herbie said: And mental health checks? You seem more eager to disqualify people from voting. Educated people would also have realized that that was a tongue in cheek joke  You're just mad because you know it would exclude you 8 minutes ago, herbie said: Who's next, people with criminal records, in hospital? Definitely. People with criminal records who are in the hospital shouldn't vote 🙄🙄🙄 (sarcasm btw, i knew you woudln't realize that on your own) 9 minutes ago, herbie said: How about people who live on reserves? I thought they didn't want to be part of this country? If they've been voting they kind of blew that out of the water didn't they Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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