Canada increasingly dependent on low-wage migrant workers, says report

[CdnFox]

Canada increasingly dependent on low-wage migrant workers, says report | National Post

“Not only has Canada experienced an unprecedented surge in immigration, but the composition of recent newcomers has been markedly different than in the past,” reads a discussion paper published May 9 by the bank’s Economic Analysis Department.

The paper found that, driven largely by a surge in temporary migration, the average Canadian immigrant has now become younger, lower-skilled and more likely to hail from poorer regions such as India, sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East.

Starting in 2022, Canada began accepting more than one million newcomers per year, mostly in “non-permanent” categories of immigrants ranging from international students, who are among those admitted under the international mobility program, to temporary foreign workers.

The Bank of Canada document shows that this wasn’t just unprecedented for Canada, but it went well beyond the pale of any comparable advanced economy.

 

 

This isn't going to change substantially under Carney. 

 

This is a great way to temporarily mask poor financial performance. And it helps cover up for the fact that businesses aren't investing in the technology or things necessary to be more competitive.

 

But it's absolutely terrible in the medium to long-term for the country. This is why our GDP per capita is nose diving and why companies aren't bothering to invest.

[Aristides]

I think it is pretty well recognized  that Trudeau's immigration policy was a huge mistake.

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I think it is pretty well recognized  that Trudeau's immigration policy was a huge mistake.

I think it is among the right, i think the left is STARTING to come around.   

but the challenge is that a) carney is still bringing in as many temp workers, in fact it's gone up. And the indications are that's not going to change. 

and b), the reality of that regardless of pointing fingers is that a number of the things he wants to do or claims he's going to address won't be able to happen anytime soon. Those workers are still here and those businesses are still hooked on them. Normally you'd reduce the numbers substantially while at the same time giving tax breaks to businesses to upgrade to more efficient tech and also stimulating the economy a little to make up for the reduction.  But he's got no fiscal room for any of that in practical terms, he'll just bump inflation. 

[CdnFox]

Canada's immigration targets for this year 

Canada’s immigration levels - Canada.ca

 

As many temp workers as permanent residents almost.  And close again in students who will want cheap part time work. 

Things won't be getting better soon. 

[I am Groot]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Canada increasingly dependent on low-wage migrant workers, says report | National Post

The paper found that, driven largely by a surge in temporary migration, the average Canadian immigrant has now become younger, lower-skilled and more likely to hail from poorer regions such as India, sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East.

This not only negatively affects our productivity, but lowers wages while increasing costs for things like housing. It benefits only the oligopolies who get to sell more services and make more profit, and benefits landholders. It negatively impacts everyone else.

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Starting in 2022, Canada began accepting more than one million newcomers per year, mostly in “non-permanent” categories of immigrants ranging from international students, who are among those admitted under the international mobility program, to temporary foreign workers.

Without much in the way of screening. We've seen a huge surge in Indo-crime since then. Besides which, as one columnist wrote, Canada's system was based on being very careful of who we let in. As such, we don't really have much of a system for making them leave. Our clunky, antiquated judicial system is so strangled with red tape it can take years to deport anyone.

Our refugee determination system is even worse, with pressure placed on judges to push people through as fast as possible to eliminate backlogs. And since it requires almost no paperwork to approve a refugee but a lot to reject them due to the inevitable slew of legal challenges, well, we have an 87% acceptance rate. And we often don't even know who these people are as they destroy their papers before showing up. Because of this, a lot of those 'students' and 'temp workers' are just applying for refugee status if their visas aren't renewed. That will buy them years more in Canada.

And even if we order them to leave they usually don't. We don't keep track, and we have no group that can go look for them.

I've read that one out of five new immigrants are Muslims. That's not a good thing for a civilized society. If you look to Europe, once they reach a certain level they start to assert themselves and demand accommodation. I think they're already reaching that level here with their continuous 'kill all the Jews' parades through downtown streets. They don't bother to get permits, and ignore the police since the cops are ordered to keep their hands off by leftist politicians who want Muslim votes.

 

 

 

19 hours ago, Aristides said:

I think it is pretty well recognized  that Trudeau's immigration policy was a huge mistake.

And yet, Carney is continuing it with only minor variations.

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

And yet, Carney is continuing it with only minor variations.

Yep. there's the rub. 

"A re-elected Liberal government will cap the number of non-permanent residents in Canada at less than 5 per cent of the population, and limit the annual growth of permanent residents to less than one per cent,"

So to put that in perspective, that's about 2 million temporary workers and students a year.  TWO MILLION.  That's his "reduction'. Per year. 

And 1 percent permanent is still 400,000 new permanent people, which is probably more than we can find homes for by itself.

So his intention is still to prop up a failing economy by extremely high temporary foreign immigrants either as students or workers or both.

Not only is this going to be disastrous for our economy and not only does it mean that there will be a hell of a lot less tax money to provide the same services that were used to put on top of it every year that passes it gets harder and harder to reverse the trend and get Canadian businesses back towards profitability and productivity without cheap semi-slave labor.

 

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yep. there's the rub. 

"A re-elected Liberal government will cap the number of non-permanent residents in Canada at less than 5 per cent of the population, and limit the annual growth of permanent residents to less than one per cent,"

So to put that in perspective, that's about 2 million temporary workers and students a year.  TWO MILLION.  That's his "reduction'. Per year. 

And 1 percent permanent is still 400,000 new permanent people, which is probably more than we can find homes for by itself.

So his intention is still to prop up a failing economy by extremely high temporary foreign immigrants either as students or workers or both.

Not only is this going to be disastrous for our economy and not only does it mean that there will be a hell of a lot less tax money to provide the same services that were used to put on top of it every year that passes it gets harder and harder to reverse the trend and get Canadian businesses back towards profitability and productivity without cheap semi-slave labor.

 

Uh oh -  @ExFlyer  gave that one of his passive agressive down votes but can't refute any of it   

Always appreciate your little admissions i'm right while you cower in fear in your basement little guy  

[cougar]

 

[eyeball]

On 5/27/2025 at 2:26 PM, CdnFox said:

I think it is among the right, i think the left is STARTING to come around.

There's too many people and not enough to go around and that's why I was saying we should slow our population growth years and years and years ago.

I think it is among the right

LMAO!

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

There's too many people and not enough to go around and that's why I was saying we should slow our population growth years and years and years ago.

Our population growth WAS slowed years and years and years ago.  As the report shows, it's during the liberals time that it went nuts. 

Let me explain one of the basics of economics and wealth. Wealth and economy is not a fixed resource. It is created through opportunity and activity. When you say there's not enough to go around, that's a ridiculous and childish statement. There's not a finite amount of wealth, it's not like you can only mine so much wealthonium and that's what has to go around.

People create wealth through their activity. The problem is when you bring in too many people too quickly they simply don't have the time to develop the skills or resources necessary to create wealth at an acceptable pace.

If all we allowed in were english speaking doctors trained and raised in western cultures such as the us or France then we could import as many as we can build houses for. And we could afford to build houses or as many as we wanted. So the problem isn't the number

The problem is we are currently bringing in huge numbers of people who are either not qualified to create wealth in our society upon arrival or who are not here to create wealth at all such as students. But they still consume resources such as Healthcare, housing, food, etc

That's what made the liberal plan disastrous. They brought in people faster than they had accommodation or resources for them, and they brought in people who were not able to participate in creating wealth quickly. As a result we do not have the resources to care for them and they do not have the ability to create the money necessary to provide for them so they are a drag on our economy

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Let me explain one of the basics of economics and wealth.

LMAO!

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

...it's not like you can only mine so much wealthonium and that's what has to go around.

Actually it's exactly like that. There's only this much to go around.

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

LMAO!

Ahhh yes your usual admission of defeat   

I accept your surrender  

 

13 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Actually it's exactly like that. There's only this much to go around.

Big empty space with a few clouds?

Brainscan of yours i take it?  

I love how when you know you're wrong you just devolve into this kind of sillyness. It makes it that much more entertaining to crush your soul   

[August1991]

On 5/28/2025 at 9:28 PM, eyeball said:

There's too many people and not enough to go around and that's why I was saying we should slow our population growth years and years and years ago.

I think it is among the right

LMAO!

Canada? Too many people? Not enough space?

Gimme a break.

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We Canadians are good at getting along.

[herbie]

There's too many people in Canada?
You sound like a High School buddy who'd never been outside Vancouver so we kidnapped him and took him camping with us to Manning Park.
Like seriously, you're saying that with a straight face?

Never flown in a plane at night and looked out the window? Stood hitchhiking holding a gas can and waited hours for a car to come by? 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

There's too many people in Canada?
You sound like a High School buddy who'd never been outside Vancouver so we kidnapped him and took him camping with us to Manning Park.
Like seriously, you're saying that with a straight face?

 

Nobody who went to highschool in vancouver "never left the city".  Aside from the various mandaory 'outdoor school' trips literally everyone had some reason at some point to leave the city.  Unless you've been lying about your age. 

Did he help you triple the value of your property with your credit card?  

why do you always have to come up with this silly little lies? 

[August1991]

8 hours ago, herbie said:

There's too many people in Canada?

.....

Like the Netherlands, Canada is a northern country.

We can get along.

[Barquentine]

On 5/28/2025 at 11:49 PM, CdnFox said:

If all we allowed in were english speaking doctors trained and raised in western cultures such as the us or France then we could import as many as we can build houses for.

Well that's dumb. There is so much wrong with that sentence. If ALL we allowed in were WESTERN doctors.......

My doctor was trained in Nigeria. She's great. But I guess you you racists need 'western culture' doctors.

Import as many as we can build houses for? Who's going to build the houses and supply the labour to support all these doctor's needs? Oh wait - doctors earn enough to buy the houses that are already on the market. 

You're solving our healthcare, housing, and racial discomfort problems all at once. Keep up the good work!

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Well that's dumb.

I hate to disagree with one of the forum's leading experts on how to be dumb but... 

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There is so much wrong with that sentence. If ALL we allowed in were WESTERN doctors.......

Ahh so the problem is you can't read.  I did not say "if all we let in were western doctors".  I said doctors raised in western culture. AND i said that doing so would allow us to bring in an unlimited supply. Meaning not doing so creates limits. Not that they shouldn't be allowed in or aren't good doctors. 

 

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My doctor was trained in Nigeria. She's great. But I guess you you racists need 'western culture' doctors.

Also not what i said. What i said was that doctors who are already familiar with the culture and language can be brought into the country in larger  numbers pretty much without restrictions vs those who can't. 

Unless she was well versed in our language and culture before she came i doubt she came here and immediately started practicing medicine.  She would have needed additional training, time to be brought up to speed on how our culture works because it's hard to service patients without understanding cultural norms, etc etc. 

And in fact we have had mentorship programs in this country to help doctors and nurses from other countries get up to speed here. Takes time and money but produces good results. 

But. That means you have a limited number you can bring in. It's capped by resources to bring them up to speed. It requires vastly LESS to bring people up to speed if they can already speak our language fluently, and are already 99 percent familiar with our cultural norms.  

So what i said was you can bring in as many as you can house IF that is the people you are bringing in. 

But of course, you try to turn a simple truth into "RRRRRRRRAACIST!!!"  just because you didn't like it. 

I never mentioned race. Your hatred and bigotry when there not me. 

 

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Import as many as we can build houses for?

Yes.  Sorry i didn't realize that would be a confusing concept for you. 

People moving here will need homes.  Right now we don't have enough homes for the people who are already here, so you can't bring in more without increasing the number of homes.

Anyone above grade 2 should be able to get their head around that.  I'm disappointed you can't. 

Doesn't  matter who builds them or the like, what matters is you can't bring in any more people than  you can produce places for them to live 

Once again you wind up looking stupid because you let your hatred and bigotry guide you instead of reading what was written. 

[herbie]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Nobody who went to highschool in vancouver "never left the city".

Do you think we don't know you have no friends and have never gone outside? Or did your Mom take you to Guilford Mall and convince you it was road tripping?

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, herbie said:

Do you think we don't know you have no friends and have never gone outside? 

By "we' i assume you mean the voices in your head  

Bet i've killed more moose and deer than you have sparky   And skinned my first before i was old enough to shoot one. 

And every kid i knew had been out of the city by highschool. 

Well if your goal there was to prove you were just making up imaginary 'friends' you never had to help with your story... mission successful!! LOLOL!

[I am Groot]

On 5/29/2025 at 10:11 PM, August1991 said:

Canada? Too many people? Not enough space?

Gimme a break.

Quebec IS indeed a large province. I suggest the federal government override Quebec's demand for lower immigration and direct ALL future immigration to settle in Quebec.

On 6/1/2025 at 7:01 PM, herbie said:

There's too many people in Canada?

You're welcome to go live on the Arctic Tundra. Or maybe, if that's too harsh, northern Alberta or northern Saskatchewan. Bon voyage! Have fun! 

11 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Well that's dumb. There is so much wrong with that sentence. If ALL we allowed in were WESTERN doctors.......

My doctor was trained in Nigeria. She's great. But I guess you you racists need 'western culture' doctors.

Quick. What percentage of immigrants are healthcare workers?

[Barquentine]

20 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Quick. What percentage of immigrants are healthcare workers?

What's your point? I was responding to Cdnfox's idea that all immigrating doctors have to be 'Western', meaning white.

[Barquentine]

On 5/28/2025 at 11:49 PM, CdnFox said:

who are not here to create wealth at all such as students. But they still consume resources such as Healthcare, housing, food, etc

A lot of those foreign students bring in a lot of money. I did renovations for an ESL teacher at a small school for foreign students, mostly Chinese and Saudis. Apart from paid tuition and paid accommodations, they all had allowances from their families of up to $10,000 a month. 

And a lot of the university students stay on and contribute after their education.

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

What's your point? I was responding to Cdnfox's idea that all immigrating doctors have to be 'Western', meaning white.

LOL in other words you were lying    i never said anything of the kind.  And now others are calling you out on your bullshit. 

See what happens when you're a dishonest twat? It's aways better to be honest.