CdnFox Posted Tuesday at 08:18 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 08:18 PM Canada increasingly dependent on low-wage migrant workers, says report | National Post “Not only has Canada experienced an unprecedented surge in immigration, but the composition of recent newcomers has been markedly different than in the past,” reads a discussion paper published May 9 by the bank’s Economic Analysis Department. The paper found that, driven largely by a surge in temporary migration, the average Canadian immigrant has now become younger, lower-skilled and more likely to hail from poorer regions such as India, sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East. Starting in 2022, Canada began accepting more than one million newcomers per year, mostly in “non-permanent” categories of immigrants ranging from international students, who are among those admitted under the international mobility program, to temporary foreign workers. The Bank of Canada document shows that this wasn’t just unprecedented for Canada, but it went well beyond the pale of any comparable advanced economy. This isn't going to change substantially under Carney. This is a great way to temporarily mask poor financial performance. And it helps cover up for the fact that businesses aren't investing in the technology or things necessary to be more competitive. But it's absolutely terrible in the medium to long-term for the country. This is why our GDP per capita is nose diving and why companies aren't bothering to invest. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Aristides Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM I think it is pretty well recognized that Trudeau's immigration policy was a huge mistake. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted Tuesday at 09:26 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 09:26 PM 32 minutes ago, Aristides said: I think it is pretty well recognized that Trudeau's immigration policy was a huge mistake. I think it is among the right, i think the left is STARTING to come around. but the challenge is that a) carney is still bringing in as many temp workers, in fact it's gone up. And the indications are that's not going to change. and b), the reality of that regardless of pointing fingers is that a number of the things he wants to do or claims he's going to address won't be able to happen anytime soon. Those workers are still here and those businesses are still hooked on them. Normally you'd reduce the numbers substantially while at the same time giving tax breaks to businesses to upgrade to more efficient tech and also stimulating the economy a little to make up for the reduction. But he's got no fiscal room for any of that in practical terms, he'll just bump inflation. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted Tuesday at 09:52 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 09:52 PM Canada's immigration targets for this year Canada’s immigration levels - Canada.ca As many temp workers as permanent residents almost. And close again in students who will want cheap part time work. Things won't be getting better soon. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
I am Groot Posted Wednesday at 04:18 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 04:18 PM 19 hours ago, CdnFox said: Canada increasingly dependent on low-wage migrant workers, says report | National Post The paper found that, driven largely by a surge in temporary migration, the average Canadian immigrant has now become younger, lower-skilled and more likely to hail from poorer regions such as India, sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East. This not only negatively affects our productivity, but lowers wages while increasing costs for things like housing. It benefits only the oligopolies who get to sell more services and make more profit, and benefits landholders. It negatively impacts everyone else. 19 hours ago, CdnFox said: Starting in 2022, Canada began accepting more than one million newcomers per year, mostly in “non-permanent” categories of immigrants ranging from international students, who are among those admitted under the international mobility program, to temporary foreign workers. Without much in the way of screening. We've seen a huge surge in Indo-crime since then. Besides which, as one columnist wrote, Canada's system was based on being very careful of who we let in. As such, we don't really have much of a system for making them leave. Our clunky, antiquated judicial system is so strangled with red tape it can take years to deport anyone. Our refugee determination system is even worse, with pressure placed on judges to push people through as fast as possible to eliminate backlogs. And since it requires almost no paperwork to approve a refugee but a lot to reject them due to the inevitable slew of legal challenges, well, we have an 87% acceptance rate. And we often don't even know who these people are as they destroy their papers before showing up. Because of this, a lot of those 'students' and 'temp workers' are just applying for refugee status if their visas aren't renewed. That will buy them years more in Canada. And even if we order them to leave they usually don't. We don't keep track, and we have no group that can go look for them. I've read that one out of five new immigrants are Muslims. That's not a good thing for a civilized society. If you look to Europe, once they reach a certain level they start to assert themselves and demand accommodation. I think they're already reaching that level here with their continuous 'kill all the Jews' parades through downtown streets. They don't bother to get permits, and ignore the police since the cops are ordered to keep their hands off by leftist politicians who want Muslim votes. 19 hours ago, Aristides said: I think it is pretty well recognized that Trudeau's immigration policy was a huge mistake. And yet, Carney is continuing it with only minor variations. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted Wednesday at 04:57 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 04:57 PM 33 minutes ago, I am Groot said: And yet, Carney is continuing it with only minor variations. Yep. there's the rub. "A re-elected Liberal government will cap the number of non-permanent residents in Canada at less than 5 per cent of the population, and limit the annual growth of permanent residents to less than one per cent," So to put that in perspective, that's about 2 million temporary workers and students a year. TWO MILLION. That's his "reduction'. Per year. And 1 percent permanent is still 400,000 new permanent people, which is probably more than we can find homes for by itself. So his intention is still to prop up a failing economy by extremely high temporary foreign immigrants either as students or workers or both. Not only is this going to be disastrous for our economy and not only does it mean that there will be a hell of a lot less tax money to provide the same services that were used to put on top of it every year that passes it gets harder and harder to reverse the trend and get Canadian businesses back towards profitability and productivity without cheap semi-slave labor. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted Wednesday at 05:31 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 05:31 PM 32 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Yep. there's the rub. "A re-elected Liberal government will cap the number of non-permanent residents in Canada at less than 5 per cent of the population, and limit the annual growth of permanent residents to less than one per cent," So to put that in perspective, that's about 2 million temporary workers and students a year. TWO MILLION. That's his "reduction'. Per year. And 1 percent permanent is still 400,000 new permanent people, which is probably more than we can find homes for by itself. So his intention is still to prop up a failing economy by extremely high temporary foreign immigrants either as students or workers or both. Not only is this going to be disastrous for our economy and not only does it mean that there will be a hell of a lot less tax money to provide the same services that were used to put on top of it every year that passes it gets harder and harder to reverse the trend and get Canadian businesses back towards profitability and productivity without cheap semi-slave labor. Uh oh - @ExFlyer gave that one of his passive agressive down votes but can't refute any of it Always appreciate your little admissions i'm right while you cower in fear in your basement little guy Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted Thursday at 01:28 AM Report Posted Thursday at 01:28 AM On 5/27/2025 at 2:26 PM, CdnFox said: I think it is among the right, i think the left is STARTING to come around. There's too many people and not enough to go around and that's why I was saying we should slow our population growth years and years and years ago. I think it is among the right LMAO! Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted Thursday at 02:49 AM Author Report Posted Thursday at 02:49 AM 1 hour ago, eyeball said: There's too many people and not enough to go around and that's why I was saying we should slow our population growth years and years and years ago. Our population growth WAS slowed years and years and years ago. As the report shows, it's during the liberals time that it went nuts. Let me explain one of the basics of economics and wealth. Wealth and economy is not a fixed resource. It is created through opportunity and activity. When you say there's not enough to go around, that's a ridiculous and childish statement. There's not a finite amount of wealth, it's not like you can only mine so much wealthonium and that's what has to go around. People create wealth through their activity. The problem is when you bring in too many people too quickly they simply don't have the time to develop the skills or resources necessary to create wealth at an acceptable pace. If all we allowed in were english speaking doctors trained and raised in western cultures such as the us or France then we could import as many as we can build houses for. And we could afford to build houses or as many as we wanted. So the problem isn't the number The problem is we are currently bringing in huge numbers of people who are either not qualified to create wealth in our society upon arrival or who are not here to create wealth at all such as students. But they still consume resources such as Healthcare, housing, food, etc That's what made the liberal plan disastrous. They brought in people faster than they had accommodation or resources for them, and they brought in people who were not able to participate in creating wealth quickly. As a result we do not have the resources to care for them and they do not have the ability to create the money necessary to provide for them so they are a drag on our economy Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted Thursday at 05:29 AM Report Posted Thursday at 05:29 AM 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Let me explain one of the basics of economics and wealth. LMAO! Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted Thursday at 05:32 AM Report Posted Thursday at 05:32 AM 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: ...it's not like you can only mine so much wealthonium and that's what has to go around. Actually it's exactly like that. There's only this much to go around. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted Thursday at 05:46 AM Author Report Posted Thursday at 05:46 AM 16 minutes ago, eyeball said: LMAO! Ahhh yes your usual admission of defeat I accept your surrender 13 minutes ago, eyeball said: Actually it's exactly like that. There's only this much to go around. Big empty space with a few clouds? Brainscan of yours i take it? I love how when you know you're wrong you just devolve into this kind of sillyness. It makes it that much more entertaining to crush your soul Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
August1991 Posted Friday at 02:11 AM Report Posted Friday at 02:11 AM On 5/28/2025 at 9:28 PM, eyeball said: There's too many people and not enough to go around and that's why I was saying we should slow our population growth years and years and years ago. I think it is among the right LMAO! Canada? Too many people? Not enough space? Gimme a break. ==== We Canadians are good at getting along. 1 Quote
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