We got sold out boys: Canada’s New Tariffs on US Drop to ‘Nearly Zero’ With Exemptions

[CdnFox]

Canada’s New Tariffs on US Drop to ‘Nearly Zero’ With Exemptions, Oxford Says - Bloomberg

Short version, carney has just announced a bunch of new exemptions that wipe out almost all of the tariffs. The US has not reciprocated and our tariffs from them stay in place.

Remember all that tariff money that Connie said was going to go to help workers who were displaced by the US tariffs?

Carney basically just sold us out and took all our tariffs off Without any deal in place for the Americans to do the same.

"elbows up" his ass it would seem.

[Legato]

18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Canada’s New Tariffs on US Drop to ‘Nearly Zero’ With Exemptions, Oxford Says - Bloomberg

Short version, carney has just announced a bunch of new exemptions that wipe out almost all of the tariffs. The US has not reciprocated and our tariffs from them stay in place.

Remember all that tariff money that Connie said was going to go to help workers who were displaced by the US tariffs?

Carney basically just sold us out and took all our tariffs off Without any deal in place for the Americans to do the same.

"elbows up" his ass it would seem.

Sounds like more government spending for short term relief.

Got to keep the rif happy at the expense of the raf.

[CdnFox]

38 minutes ago, Legato said:

Sounds like more government spending for short term relief.

Got to keep the rif happy at the expense of the raf.

Possibly but honestly I think he's just trying to appease trump. They had their little meeting in trump told him to back off and he said okay I'll do it quietly with exemptions. Now we still have our tariffs but trump isn't getting tariffs at all

Win for trump. Told you this guy was selling us out

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Canada’s New Tariffs on US Drop to ‘Nearly Zero’ With Exemptions, Oxford Says - Bloomberg

Short version, carney has just announced a bunch of new exemptions that wipe out almost all of the tariffs. The US has not reciprocated and our tariffs from them stay in place.

Remember all that tariff money that Connie said was going to go to help workers who were displaced by the US tariffs?

Carney basically just sold us out and took all our tariffs off Without any deal in place for the Americans to do the same.

"elbows up" his ass it would seem.

SHOCKER!

Trump is a f'ing genius. He unilaterally decided the result of our election with just a few sentences, installed his own PM, and now our country is biting the pillow until Carney gives our HoC the Brookfield HQ treatment...

Carney's plan: 

1. lead a vote in parliament to surrender our sovereignty to the US
2. take a leave of absence covering the takeover date
3. when he comes back, he'll say "I played no role in surrendering our sovereignty to the US"
4. announce that he's running for the new role of Governor of Canada
5. give the CBC $3B and "select media outlets" $1B in order to ensure their viability during the transition
6. buy a building on Hastings Street with a wonderful view of all the homeless people dying on the sidewalk
7. find a rich sucker to accept his $50M bet that our newly formed state is ret4rded enough to elect him governor

 

[WestCanMan]

What a coincidence... This is a picture of Carney at a Sotheby's auction bidding on a Benedict Arnold painting.

J/K, it's Carney holding a "51" sign in celebration of being elected Governor of Canada. 

TBH, it's neither. It's just an accurate portrayal of Trump's puppet.  

I honestly tried to lie, it's just not as easy for me as it is for eyeball, exflyer, myata, collusion-boy, radiodumb, hoboskid, hodad, etc. 

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

SHOCKER!

Trump is a f'ing genius. He unilaterally decided the result of our election with just a few sentences, installed his own PM, and now our country is biting the pillow until Carney gives our HoC the Brookfield HQ treatment...

Carney's plan: 

1. lead a vote in parliament to surrender our sovereignty to the US
2. take a leave of absence covering the takeover date
3. when he comes back, he'll say "I played no role in surrendering our sovereignty to the US"
4. announce that he's running for the new role of Governor of Canada
5. give the CBC $3B and "select media outlets" $1B in order to ensure their viability during the transition
6. buy a building on Hastings Street with a wonderful view of all the homeless people dying on the sidewalk
7. find a rich sucker to accept his $50M bet that our newly formed state is ret4rded enough to elect him governor

 

I want you to be wrong, but sadly that won't change the fact that you're right. I had a faint hope that he wouldn't completely sell us out

And now he's not going to table a budget until next year. Mr "This is the most serious crisis of our lives"just sold us out, did nothing to solve the crisis and now doesn't even have a financial plan to carry forward

[herbie]

Tariffs are a tax your own people pay, dummies! Until alternate sources are there, you're cutting off your own nose to spite your face.
YOU benefit and it signals Canada's position that we don't want to engage in a Trade War.

Or you'd rather pay 25%+ more for every other damn thing you buy just to own the Yanks?

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Mr "This is the most serious crisis of our lives"just sold us out, did nothing to solve the crisis and now doesn't even have a financial plan to carry forward

He has a plan. He's already executing it masterfully. Or should I say, for his master.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

Tariffs are a tax your own people pay,

Sure, and we could use that tax money to help the workers who are facing massive job losses due to the trump tariffs. Which is what carney promised. Didn't take him long to break that

Also it puts a great deal of strain on the American Products, people look for Canadian products instead because there's no tariff and that makes it easier for our companies to start up or expand businesses providing those same things. Which is the whole point of a tariff.

Because it causes pain to America the idea was that we would have tariffs as long as they had tariffs to encourage them to drop or reduce ours. 

That' was carney's stated plan.  Elbows up. 

And he just threw that out the window right after the election where he promised he wouldn't

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

Tariffs are a tax your own people pay, dummies! Until alternate sources are there, you're cutting off your own nose to spite your face.
YOU benefit and it signals Canada's position that we don't want to engage in a Trade War.

Or you'd rather pay 25%+ more for every other damn thing you buy just to own the Yanks?

Stop preaching to your ret4rd choir, herbie. 

Tariffs hurt foreign competition, period, and the people within your country will just buy domestic products for roughly the same price. 

At the end of the year, if American companies buy $50B worth of US steel and $0 worth of Canadian steel, who does it hurt most, you stupid piece of shit????????

Your stupidity won, buddy. Our country is now royally f'd. Take a victory lap with exflyer. 

[eyeball]

Good idea. It always struck me as beingba lot smarter to just stand back and let Trump set America's economy ablaze on his own. He's certainly proved he's more than capable.

[herbie]

You understand NOTHING about either economics nor common sense, Wastecanman

You want to f*ck your own citizens to stick to your ideological principles and pretend that's wisdom. Take a hike south and join with your own kind, m*ron

Edited Wednesday at 11:29 PM by herbie

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

Good idea. It always struck me as beingba lot smarter to just stand back and let Trump set America's economy ablaze on his own. He's certainly proved he's more than capable.

Looks like Carney's on the same plan. Our Industries will burn and we won't have any money to cover the workers who suffer. And there will be no motivation for the Americans to ever reduce or cut off our tariffs.

And appernetly the libs aren't going to do anything to reduce housing prices, and won't build pipelines. And they'll be bringing in immigrants in high numbers which puts a strain on inflation. 

Frankly, trump's economy is probably going to look pretty rosy compared to ours

 

41 minutes ago, herbie said:

You understand NOTHING about either economics nor common sense, Wastecanman

 

Yeah!!  @WestCanMan  never TRIPLED the value of his home with a credit card like you did Herbie!! You're the financial genus around here!!!

Pfffffftt!!!  

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Looks like Carney's on the same plan. Our Industries will burn and we won't have any money to cover the workers who suffer. 

Industries all over the world are going to burn, recall it's a global trade war. And of course we'll have all the money we need to cover our workers.

38 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And there will be no motivation for the Americans to ever reduce or cut off our tariffs.

Except for their economy burning up. It shouldn't take long.

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And appernetly the libs aren't going to do anything to reduce housing prices,

Notice there's little if anything anyone else around the world is able to do about that.

44 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

...and won't build pipelines.

Okay, apparently we can't even fill the one Trudeau built to capacity yet so what's the point?

53 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Frankly, trump's economy is probably going to look pretty rosy compared to ours

More fiery red I think.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Industries all over the world are going to burn, recall it's a global trade war. And of course we'll have all the money we need to cover our workers.

Both of those statements are false.  There's no indication of a global economic crisis at all. While things may slow down they won't be hurt all that much.  And we already don't have the money for the workers.  In fact they're already starting to complain about it in ontario. 

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Except for their economy burning up. It shouldn't take long.

Still going to be better than ours. Pretty sad when you can't beat trump, but that's the left wing for you. That's why Kamala lost. As bad as people think trump is, the left is worse

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Notice there's little if anything anyone else around the world is able to do about that.

Lots of people are doing lots of things. Nobody else's GDP per capita is down

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Okay, apparently we can't even fill the one Trudeau built to capacity yet so what's the point?

Sure we can. And if you lift the tiger band we can do even more. We could also sell even more LNG. A pipeline running to Eastern Canada would provide them with a whale instead of it coming up through America and allow for Alberta to sell his products to Atlantic countries

Oh, I see. You're still believing that your hero trudeau was correct when he said there's no business case for selling natural gas🙄 

[Nationalist]

14 hours ago, herbie said:

Tariffs are a tax your own people pay, dummies! Until alternate sources are there, you're cutting off your own nose to spite your face.
YOU benefit and it signals Canada's position that we don't want to engage in a Trade War.

Or you'd rather pay 25%+ more for every other damn thing you buy just to own the Yanks?

ROFLMAO!!!

"ELBOWS UP"

You dumb fcks have been had-and-a-half.

[Aristides]

Half the oil in the TMX still goes to the US, we should be expanding LNG exports rather than oil.

[Legato]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Half the oil in the TMX still goes to the US, we should be expanding LNG exports rather than oil.

Agreed, however a dozen oil rigs would be needed to drill through the red tape.

I can't see Carney cutting the tape.

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, herbie said:

You understand NOTHING about either economics nor common sense, Wastecanman

Says the guy who claimed to have "renovated a house with his credit card and tripled its value" 🤣

You're not just oblivious about economics, you're a totally shameless liar. 

[Aristides]

9 minutes ago, Legato said:

Agreed, however a dozen oil rigs would be needed to drill through the red tape.

I can't see Carney cutting the tape.

He is right when he says we need a single approval process without the eternal court challenges. We'll have to wait and see if he can deliver. I don't think it will be easy.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

He is right when he says we need a single approval process without the eternal court challenges. We'll have to wait and see if he can deliver. I don't think it will be easy.

That's based on the assumption that Mark "net-zero" Carney ever had any intention of doing anything, which is highly unlikely.

85% of his supporters are anti-Alberta-oil AGW-flunkies in Eastern Canada, he was a UN Climate envoy, and he's a member of the LPOC, who are traditionally in favour of oil imports through our pristine tidewaters, and opposed to Alberta oil being shipped out through our pristine tidewaters.

He was only ever in favour of pipelines for one month in his life, and that was just to win votes.  

[herbie]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Says the guy who claimed to have "renovated a house with his credit card and tripled its value" 🤣

You're not just oblivious about economics, you're a totally shameless liar. 

What you reveal here is that after two damn years, you still can't figure out how I or anyone else can do that. Kind of displays your total ignorance of money handling, economics, capital investments, etc.
Still paying H&R Block to figure out your single T4 tax return?
Still think WalMart's business plan is 'to save YOU money"?

You can't even grasp the fact that you are the one that pays the tariffs, not the Ameriocans. Just as the dumb Magatts can't grasp that they pay the tariff, not the other country -  and stick to that belief because they simply don't want to believe otherwise.

We didn't start the Trade wars, we didn't ask for one, we have a Trade Agreement and can stick to it even if the Scumbag that signed it illegally breaks it, and we sure don't benefit at all by hurting ourselves as much as possible. Which is exactly what you do if a needed item from the USA is better, cheaper, faster or only available from the USA.

So rather than posting self incriminating imbecilic insults about others and refusing to see anything other than your preformed beliefs, maybe you should make the slightest effort to understand a subject before you post and accept the facts other present rather than just repeating your beliefs as factual.

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

Half the oil in the TMX still goes to the US, we should be expanding LNG exports rather than oil.

Do both. We should be the richest country in the world and we can use that money to invest in things to transition against the day when a while and natural gas aren't the primary sources of energy anymore. Probably within the next 50 to 60 years oil will start losing its relevance  until it is basically gone the way of coal. Still has value but nobody's fighting wars over Coal anymore.

If we use our wealth for intelligent things we can be the ones who develop the next generation of energy products and we can expand our other market skills and services as well so when the day comes that oil and gas aren't big profit drivers any more we've moved on and are still wealthy. 

 

4 minutes ago, herbie said:

What you reveal here is that after two damn years, you still can't figure out how I or anyone else can do that.

 

Dude you lied about it, pure and simple. 

You didn't triple your house value with just a credit card.  Unless you're living in a dog house that's not reasonably possible. 

That's why everyone's laughing at you.  You're too dumb to even realize what you're saying

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

What you reveal here is that after two damn years, you still can't figure out how I or anyone else can do that. Kind of displays your total ignorance of money handling, economics, capital investments, etc.

No one can do that you m0r0n. You have clearly never owned a home. That's so far outside of the realm of possibility that it's beyond ret4rded.

Best case scenario is you increase the value of your home by a bit more than double your total cost of renos, in a static market, but TBH, in the FVREB market where I live, you could renovate your home and still lose money on it if your timing is bad. 

For example, between May and Aug 2022 the HPI price here dropped by $200k. So the average detached home here was worth $1.7M in May and then $1.5M in Aug.

If you spent $50K on renos to renovate it over that period, and increased the value of your home according to its May valuation by $100K, you'd still end up selling for $100K less in Aug than you would have if you left it in its original state and sold it in May. 

There are other factors involved, but that's a realistic scenario. 

Edited Thursday at 08:34 PM by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If we use our wealth for intelligent things we can be the ones who develop the next generation of energy products and we can expand our other market skills and services as well so when the day comes that oil and gas aren't big profit drivers any more we've moved on and are still wealthy. 

If we were intelligent we could have started doing this decades ago when it was plain as day and we knew full well that we should have stopped looking at oil and gas as big profit drivers.

But humans are political and greedy and not very intelligent when they get that way so...

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Probably within the next 50 to 60 years oil will start losing its relevance  until it is basically gone the way of coal.

We need to be getting there at least 10 years ago. There are plenty of countries well ahead of us already.