Trump has officially entered the psychotic emperor phase.

[Aristides]

29 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

First, Trump doesn't get it. Second, Boeing has had delays in building the AF1 replacements. Third, everything we pay to update the Qatar aircraft, we are paying to do with the Boeing aircraft. So there isn't really an additional cost.

So what, you spend hundreds of millions on this thing then stick in a museum in four years, you are still stuck looking for a replacement. You are no better off than if you had never got the thing other than you have spent the better part of a billion on a museum piece. If this thing doesn't stay in service for at least 15 years after it is converted, it is nothing more than a scam.

Edited 21 hours ago by Aristides

[robosmith]

59 minutes ago, Legato said:

I rest my case.

You have TROLL (NO) case.

[gatomontes99]

36 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So what, you spend hundreds of millions on this thing then stick in a museum in four years, you are still stuck looking for a replacement. You are no better off than if you had never got the thing other than you have spent the better part of a billion on a museum piece. If this thing doesn't stay in service for at least 15 years after it is converted, it is nothing more than a scam.

No one said 4 years. You assumed that.

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

So what, you spend hundreds of millions on this thing then stick in a museum in four years, you are still stuck looking for a replacement. You are no better off than if you had never got the thing other than you have spent the better part of a billion on a museum piece. If this thing doesn't stay in service for at least 15 years after it is converted, it is nothing more than a scam.

Who is being scammed?

[Hodad]

What an amazing gift... er grift.

To those blindly parroting the administration flak on this, ask yourselves two questions.
1. Is this politically very costly?

2. If so, (and yes, it is) then what is Trump getting in exchange for the high cost?

 

It really is about as corrupt as it gets. He just knows his people for what they are: people so filled with blind, sycophantic loyalty that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose a single supporter. 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

No one said 4 years. You assumed that.

So when is it supposed to go to his library?  Why does it need to go there at all? You need at least two of them anyway. 

Edited 19 hours ago by Aristides

[User]

40 minutes ago, Hodad said:

2. If so, (and yes, it is) then what is Trump getting in exchange for the high cost?

Your argument is flawed because Trump does many things at a high political cost but with no real gain, generally speaking, let alone anything for himself. 

 

 

[gatomontes99]

36 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So when is it supposed to go to his library?  Why does it need to go there at all? You need at least two of them anyway. 

It doesn't need to go there and we do need two. But you have to remember that the two we have are 40+ years old and the aircraft we have ordered aren't being delivered on time. Taking this one and converting it to an AF1 is not a bad option.

Now, sending it to Trump's library is a choice he made. He likes trophies. No. He loves Trophies. Having a big asś jet in front of his "Big Beautiful Library the likes of which nobody has seen" fits his ego.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

When it comes to bullshit reasoning, you guys take the cake. You are fine with taxpayers shelling out hundreds of millions solely for Trump's benefit. No one but Trump gets anything out of this.

Go look in a mirror. You're fine with taxpayers shelling out hundreds of millions of dollars for diversity in Africa that benefits nobody in the united states but you're angry that it may cost money to fly a plane. Give me a break

 

2 hours ago, User said:

I did not comment on even supporting it or not,

Oh right, we are completely in the dark as to whether or not you are for or against it. You've completely hidden your cards there, it's a total mystery 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Give me a break

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I think it is stupid because you still have to modify it and unless they can do that in less than a year, there is no point, and I think it is dumb politically because it doesn't do anything but cost Trump political points

Well you can think it's stupid, god knows I doubt it'll be the last thing that you think trump does that stupid, I've pointed out some of the things he does is stupid

But the problem is you lied and try and to say that he gets the plane personally which is a lie. You have lied and said he gets to decide what happens to the plane after whether he keeps it or sells it or does whatever and that's a lie. You've tried to claim that it's his personal benefit which is also a lie. You've also tried to claim that he couldn't use it as air force one because somehow it's against the law or something as if there is some sort of specification for it to be air force one which is a lie. You've also pretended that he's pretty much the only president that's ever received a gift while in office from a foreign nation that's worth a crap ton of money which is a lie

 

Now I could respect your argument if from the beginning it was just that you think it's a waste of money, although frankly it's not much money when you look at the US budget. But you started off with a bunch of complete and utter bullshit so you pretending that your big objection now is it a cost money holds no water.

You very clearly only dislike it because it's trump. You want it to be a bad thing and now you're trying to find a way to make it a bad thing. It's quite obvious that if it had been bidened or someone else you would have a completely 100% different opinion. Your position is not driven by logic or reason it's driven by hatred and anger.

So spare us your crocodile tears

Edited 18 hours ago by CdnFox

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

It doesn't need to go there and we do need two. But you have to remember that the two we have are 40+ years old and the aircraft we have ordered aren't being delivered on time. Taking this one and converting it to an AF1 is not a bad option.

Now, sending it to Trump's library is a choice he made. He likes trophies. No. He loves Trophies. Having a big asś jet in front of his "Big Beautiful Library the likes of which nobody has seen" fits his ego.

Ya, it's about his ego and you are supposed to pay for it. If they want to convert existing aircraft fine, but use them for the purpose which they are intended, not a decoration for a monument to Trump. It shows how full of himself he is that he would even suggest it.

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

Ya, it's about his ego and you are supposed to pay for it. If they want to convert existing aircraft fine, but use them for the purpose which they are intended, not a decoration for a monument to Trump. It shows how full of himself he is that he would even suggest it.

Eh, Dear Leader is ordering a massive military parade for his birthday. I think the signs have been there a while.

Just another of many indefensible acts that would have been unthinkable in either party before the formation of the Trump Cult.

Edited 12 hours ago by Hodad

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Eh, Dear Leader is ordering a massive military parade for his birthday. I think the signs have been there a while.

Just another of many indefensible acts that would have been unthinkable in either party before the formation of the Trump Cult.

America has military parades every year, many of them extremely lavish. They are considered the third largest after Russia and China and always have been

But when trump does it of course nobody's ever done it before in America and it's proof that he's a dictator 🙄

[User]

9 hours ago, Hodad said:

Eh, Dear Leader is ordering a massive military parade for his birthday. I think the signs have been there a while.

Its the Army's 250th birthday. 

I guess they can't ever celebrate anything like that ever again because of your hate for Trump. 

[User]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Which just happens to be on Trump's birthday. Sure.

OK, and? This is now some conspiracy that Trump was born on the same day the Army was created?

 

Edited 1 hour ago by User

[Venandi]

15 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Which just happens to be on Trump's birthday. Sure.

 

The US army was established on 14 June 1775 

Trumps birthday is 14 Jun 1946  

The Mutiny on the Bounty occurred on Jun 14 1789 and trade unions in Canada were legalized in 1872... both are Trump's fault too, right?

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Venandi

[Aristides]

Just now, Venandi said:

 

The US army was established on 14 June 1775 

Trumps birthday is 14 Jun 1946  

The Mutiny on the Bounty occurred on Jun 14 1789 and trade unions in Canada were legalized in 1872... both are Trump's fault too.

 

 

True. I looked it up and that's why I deleted the post. I don't think this is an issue. 

[Nationalist]

Poor Libbies. They're so jealous. Nobody gave Brandon a plane...not that he'd have remembered any of it.

The Airforce is getting a free jumbo jet for use as AF1. But the miserable dunces are beside themselves with jealousy and hatred.

A piece of advice for these poor, stupid Libbies. Find a leader who knows what day it is and isn't plastered daily.