CARNEY LIED ABOUT PHONE CALL WITH TRUMP!

[CITIZEN_2015]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I didn't lose. I guess you could say I'm a sore winner?

You did say it before you lying sack of crap. And I posted where you said it. Now you're trying to twist and turn and pretend you didn't say what you very clearly said and what I posted you saying.

And nobody cares what a loser like you is determined to do. The conservatives or the liberals will win the election and you won't make a damn bit of difference because you're a pathetic lying little scud bag.

The next time you want respect on a forum, may I suggest that instead of coming on and acting disrespectful and insulting people you show respect and then you will get it back. But you did call him a sore loser and you called me a liar and neither of those were true all the while crying to the heavens demanding that people treat you civilly.

You have the morals and personality of a dung beetle who's lost interest in life and really let itself go downhill. 

Go to hell piece of worthless sh*t. You are a low class hooligan and the only reason they haven't banned you is because you may a lot of sh*tty posts all garbage like yourself. You don't even deserve disrespect. You should be avoided like trash. I bet in your real like too you are disliked or hated by most and avoided.

[Moonbox]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Also  you weren't actually responding to me with that. You were responding directly to Army Guy.  I take it you think he ISN"T a 'thoughtful, serious poster'?

I know who I was responding to, and no, I don't.  How could I take someone telling us we should care whether or not a candidate lies, when he's blindly ra-ra-ra for a guy who's spent the last 2-3 years lying, bullshitting and circling the conspiracy vortex?  

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

How's your math lessons going jr?   LOLOLOL

Last time I checked you were telling me I miscalculated the constant in a math equation.   🤣

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

you'll do so much better in life when the day comes when you realize that owning your mistakes and improving from them is it better choice than doubling down and presenting yourself to the world as a c*nt. 

If I didn't know better, I'd think this was your latest diary entry.  Literally nobody on this forum has less self-awareness than you.  🤡👌

[herbie]

[WestCanMan]

Chat GPT: a perfact example of just how unintelligent artificial intelligence still is:

"Did Mark Carney lie to Canadians about Brookfield:

• "1. Brookfield Headquarters Relocation

  Conservative critics assert that Carney misrepresented his involvement in Brookfield Asset Management's decision to relocate its headquarters from Toronto to New York City. They point to a December 2024 letter where Carney, as chair, endorsed the move and recommended it to shareholders. However, Carney later stated that he had no role in the decision, claiming he had resigned from the board before the formal vote in January 2025. This discrepancy has led to accusations of dishonesty.

^Chat GPT just lied.^

It's not a mere "discrepancy", it's a complete discrepancy between the truth and his portrayal of events. 

 

Fact: Conservative critics didn't "assert that carney misrepresented" anything. They proved that he lied. Full stop.

1. "Carney stated that he had no role in the decision" - yes, 100%
2. The Brookfield board unanimously voted to move Brookfield to NY on Oct 31st while Carney was its chairman, months before Carney left. The move was announced on Nov 1st 2024, months before Carney left. In no way shape or form is that "no role in the decision", so he 100% lied.
3. The naked truth is that he said that he had no involvement but we was not only involved, he was the absolute leader of the charge. There is not 1 single person on this planet who played as big a role in moving Brookfield's HQ as Mark Carney. 

 

In addition to Carney's lie about whether or not he played a role in moving Brookfield's HQ:

• Carney also lied about his phone call to Trump.
• Carney also lied about helping Martin balance the budget in the 1990s.
• Carney also lied about the extent of his role in helping Canada avert a recession in 2008, vastly exaggerating his own role and understating the roles of key players above him. 
• Carney not only lied about the fact that he met with the JCCC, he slandered the Globe and Mail when they called him out for it, saying "You can't believe everything you see in the Globe and Mail."

 

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Everyone on this site is fully aware of the fact that Carney is the biggest liar in North American politics. No one has ever told bigger lies than him, except maybe the Russian collusiontards on CNN.

 

And there's not a single leftard here than can find an example of Poilievre telling even one lie that compares to any of the top 5 lies on Carney's laundry list. 

 

That ship has sailed herbie, you can take your disinformation elsewhere, child. 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Let’s be clear:  What’s come out is that Trump tried to sell Carney on the 51st state idea and Carney shut it down as something that will never happen, period  

Let's be clear, what has come out is that Kearney grossly misrepresented the nature of the call and trump's attitude. Additional information has come out to suggest that At several points trump did not respect our sovereignty despite the fact that carney insisted that he respected our sovereignty

 

Everybody across Canada realizes this. If you feel differently you are in the wrong

He lied. And that was day one. That's what has come out

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

I know who I was responding to, and no, I don't. 

But you don't know who you were responding to. You seem very confused. You said you were responding to the original title but then you were responding to army and now you're not so sure either way apparently

This sounds like another case of you doing something dumb and then trying to dance around it by changing what you said after the fact

 

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How could I take someone telling us we should care whether or not a candidate lies, when he's blindly ra-ra-ra for a guy who's spent the last 2-3 years lying, bullshitting and circling the conspiracy vortex?  

Are you still talking about army guy?

And are you now claiming that somehow somebody else's actions make it okay for you to lie or be deceptive, remember you weren't replying to me and I don't remember army guy being involved in a lot of conspiracy stuff.

 

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Last time I checked you were telling me I miscalculated the constant in a math equation.   🤣

You mean that time when you miscalculated the variable in a math equation?  

You understand that it's a variable right? Are you still confused about that   LOLOLOL Holy shit kid they have entire tables so that you can see that number. You totally were in the wrong there it is not a constant it is a variable. I can prove it to you if you feel the need to look especially stupid again  

 

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If I didn't know better, I'd think this was your latest diary entry.  Literally nobody on this forum has less self-awareness than you.  🤡👌

You literally just lied and pretended that you were speaking to me when you very clearly were responding to army guy. You very clearly miscalculated something that even a basic web search will tell you was a variable and you have taken and admitted that you thought was a constant   And you chase me all over the forum whenever you lose one of these debates and cry like a baby for attention  

Kid. If someone here has a problem with self-awareness it isn't me  

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Let’s be clear:  What’s come out is that Trump tried to sell Carney on the 51st state idea and Carney shut it down as something that will never happen, period  

Regardless of what you say, or how hard you try to form a new narrative around this topic, it remains an absolute established fact that Carney lied to Canadians about the tone and overall messaging from that meeting; full stop.

It doesn't really matter what Trump said now. 

It doesn't really matter what the Carney said now. 

All that matters is we're going to end up with a new 4-year mandate on the 28th, and we will either sink or swim as a country. 

 

I think that there's a really strong possibility that this is the last time we're all voting in the same federal election if the Liberals win. Or at least I hope that's the case, because Canada is obviously broken if the bribery-gorged CBC has managed to thwart democracy once again.

I'm absolutely not interested in another election in 2028. I'm as open to the prospect of Canada under the LPOC gov't as I am to an islamic theocracy. 

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Regardless of what you say, or how hard you try to form a new narrative around this topic, it remains an absolute established fact that Carney lied to Canadians about the tone and overall messaging from that meeting; full stop.

 

And that's not just conservative saying that. That is the opinion of professionals even pro liberal professionals news media and pretty much everybody.

This isn't a contentious opinion. It has been accepted by the vast majority of people. Those arguing against it are desperate holdouts.

[WestCanMan]

33 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And that's not just conservative saying that. That is the opinion of professionals even pro liberal professionals news media and pretty much everybody.

This isn't a contentious opinion. It has been accepted by the vast majority of people. Those arguing against it are desperate holdouts.

Hmmmm. Kinda like the desperate holdouts from the Russian collusion farce. I wonder who that could beave...

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Hmmmm. Kinda like the desperate holdouts from the Russian collusion farce. I wonder who that could beave...

LOL

I mean we all get how personal preference and bias can colour anyone's thinking, but you do need to be able to set that aside and look at things at least mostly objectively.

Objectively he portrayed his call in a light that was very different to the way it was, and did so in order to give the false impression that he had trump in hand and could "deal" with him to canada's benefit and that trump was setting aside his nonsense bout 51'st states etc and such, and that wasn't the nature of the call. 

Further it's reported he advised trump he would be able to help him more after teh election but would have to 'talk tough ' in the meantime. 

Reminds me of a certain black president who got caught on an open mike telling the russians he could 'do a lot more' for them if they just backed off till after the election.