Grok's paper on why global climate change is likely natural

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sorry I don't usually respond to you because I have you on ignore. 

I don't know where you got that but I didn't say it. You're arguing against something I didn't say.

Your usual defense for ignoring arguments you can't refute from people who are smarter than you is that you have them on ignore. At the end of the day you're a coward Mike

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

You said that there was one fact.  

All of those other factors are understood and aren't causing the increase in temperature.  Those are either 1990s theories or discounted ones, such as volcanic activity causing the increase.

Mike...it's not any one factor...it's all of them. Man just happens to be a very small factor.

I would add...if the planetary factors begin warming to some degree...past experience says that we're in for some nice harvests. Oh boy...a plus...lol.

The current messaging and actions are not warranted. It's mean.

 

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's not a very good place to start at all.

Science is like building a brick wall. It's done one brick at a time.

Are you saying Eunice Foote was wrong?

 

[Goddess]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Greenhouse effect happen in a lab by increasing the amount of Carbon.

Ya, we know.  They do the same thing in greenhouses, pump CO2 into them.  It makes the plants grow.

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

All of those other factors are understood and aren't causing the increase in temperature.

Hunga Tonga volcanic eruption.

Look it up.

Also, WAR is bad for the environment.

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[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Science is like building a brick wall. It's done one brick at a time.

 

 

So why can't you show a brick? like, even a single one so far?  Why can't you show ANY science to support your claims? 

It's kind of funny, you guys talk about all this science and that it's been SOOOO studied that there's ZERO room for argument etc.... but can't produce even a single bit of science that proves its a crisis or that there's anything canada COULD do that would make a difference even if we shut down all emissions. 

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Are you saying Eunice Foote was wrong?

I'm saying Eunice Foote would throw up a little hearing you attempt to claim anything about science. 

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11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So why can't you show a brick? like, even a single one so far?  Why can't you show ANY science to support your claims? 

You learn to walk before you can run and in your case you still need to master crawling.

Carbon dioxide (CO2) traps heat because its molecular structure allows it to absorb infrared radiation (heat) emitted by the Earth, preventing it from escaping into space, a process known as the greenhouse effect.

This was discovered by Eunice Newton Foote in 1856.

This will be on the test BTW.

[Legato]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You learn to walk before you can run and in your case you still need to master crawling.

Carbon dioxide (CO2) traps heat because its molecular structure allows it to absorb infrared radiation (heat) emitted by the Earth, preventing it from escaping into space, a process known as the greenhouse effect.

This was discovered by Eunice Newton Foote in 1856.

This will be on the test BTW.

I suppose you know the CO2 molecule is not flat does not trap energy and therefore radiates  energy in all directions including up toward space.

Now show us how this is a crisis.

[Legato]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sorry I don't usually respond to you because I have you on ignore. 

I don't know where you got that but I didn't say it. You're arguing against something I didn't say.

So why did you respond.

My post was aimed at you because you refuse to accept any argument which refutes your ingrained perception of climate mechanics.

[CdnFox]

51 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You learn to walk before you can run and in your case you still need to master crawling.

Whereas you're still at the whining and crying because your diapers are full again stage  

You realize you're just digging yourself deeper and people are laughing at you right? LOL

 I guess it's your way of distracting from the fact there is no science and you're realizing you've been kind of a sucker all this time 

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34 minutes ago, Legato said:

I suppose you know the CO2 molecule is not flat does not trap energy and therefore radiates  energy in all directions including up toward space.

Now show us how this is a crisis.

Everything hot becomes cold but thermodynamic entropy is not a crisis. AGW is.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

Everything hot becomes cold but thermodynamic entropy is not a crisis. AGW is.

Prove it. Show us some scientific research that says it's a crisis or that canada can do anything about it. 

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5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You realize you're just digging yourself deeper and people are laughing at you right? LOL

Of course they're laughing, it's just a joke! 

Except...even Poilievre needs to pretend it isn't. That's what's really funny. It's also a big part of the crisis so it's kind of tragic too.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

Of course they're laughing, it's just a joke! 

 

Of course they're laughing because you're just a joke  

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Except...even Poilievre needs to pretend it isn't. That's what's really funny. It's also a big part of the crisis so it's kind of tragic too.

Why? Nobody else is pretending it is anymore. the libs killed the carbon tax, haven't mentioned climate change on the campaign trail, the ndp has abandoned it as well. 

Llike i said, you're just a joke   

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Prove it. Show us some scientific research that says it's a crisis or that canada can do anything about it. 

You say I'm a liar so what is the point?

The IPCC has everything you need to know. Beyond that there are these things called search engines. Ever heard of them?

 

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

You say I'm a liar so what is the point?

 

 

Are you saying that you wrote all the science papers that say climate change is a crisis? Why would the fact that you are a liar invalidate the work of real scientists?

Obviously it wouldn't. The problem is there is no science. That's the part you were lying about. That's why you're so angry and bitter about it

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Why? Nobody else is pretending it is anymore. the libs killed the carbon tax, haven't mentioned climate change on the campaign trail, the ndp has abandoned it as well.

Sure just poor old PP wishes it was like the old days when people cared.

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1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Are you saying that you wrote all the science papers that say climate change is a crisis?

Nope.

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Why would the fact that you are a liar invalidate the work of real scientists?

Obviously it wouldn't.

How would you know, have you looked?

Obviously not.

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The problem is there is no science. That's the part you were lying about. That's why you're so angry and bitter about it.

No, there's tons of science and the vast majority of scientists who put it together will definitely tell you it's abcrisis.

I'm more astounded and troubled about the triumph of denial over science. That's a big crisis too.

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14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Llike i said, you're just a joke

Well I'm glad I've brightened your day for you! 🙂

[Legato]

37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Everything hot becomes cold but thermodynamic entropy is not a crisis. AGW is.

Con-tra-dick-tory statement. 

Forget CO2 and show us the crisis regarding cow farts.

Then show us what the chemical symbol cO- COa is.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Sure just poor old PP wishes it was like the old days when people cared.

????

We've talked about drinking and posting before. 

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4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

????

We've talked about drinking and posting before. 

I don't remember.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Nope.

then why would it matter?  

So. Was it scotch tonight? Or did you go straight for the cough syrup?

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How would you know, have you looked?

Have i looked to see if you being a liar would invalidate the work of real scientists?

errr..... no, can't say i have. I kinda already know the answer 

So.  Cough syrup huh? The cherry one you like i take it?

 

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No, there's tons of science and the vast majority of scientists who put it together will definitely tell you it's abcrisis.

Tones of science...... and neither you nor any other climate proponent on this board (or others to be honest) can produce a single scrap of it. not a drop. Not a single scientific paper that actually backs up your claims and proves its a crisis or even what kind of difference we could make if we eliminated emissions. Nothing. Not a drop.

I don't think you understand what science is. 

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I'm more astounded and troubled about the triumph of denial over science. That's a big crisis too.

You were saying that was the ONLY crisis just a few days ago.  And you can't deny something that doesn't exist. 

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

I don't remember.

Well i'm sure you will if for some reason it suits your argument. Then you'll have been saying it for decades. 

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You were saying that was the ONLY crisis just a few days ago.  And you can't deny something that doesn't exist. 

I'm certainly not denying that's the crisis that matters most.