BeaverFever Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 It will be interesting to see RFK Jr try to defend this, since he is outspoken about the effects of pollution on human health Trump officials decimate climate protections and consider axeing key greenhouse gas finding EPA takes aim at almost every major pollution rule in what environmentalists call act of ‘malice toward the planet’ …The stunning broadside of actions against pollution rules could, if upheld by the courts, reshape Americans’ environment in ways not seen since major legislation was passed in the 1970s to end an era of smoggy skies and burning rivers that became the norm following American industrialization. Pollutants from power plants, highways and industry cause a range of heart, lung and other health problems, with greenhouse gases among this pollution driving up the global temperature and fueling catastrophic heatwaves, floods, stormsand other impacts. “Zeldin’s EPA is dragging America back to the days before the Clean Air Act, when people were dying from pollution,” said Dominique Browning, director of the Moms Clean Air Force. “This is unacceptable. And shameful. We will oppose with all our hearts to protect our children from this cruel, monstrous action.” … https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/mar/12/epa-trump-climate-rules Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 It is not the Republicans...it is Trump and his buddies alone. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Aristides Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 21 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: It is not the Republicans...it is Trump and his buddies alone. And the Republican party is doing nothing to stop them What's the old Jewish saying. If there are ten people at a table and one of them is a Nazi. If none of the others says anything there are ten Nazis at the table. Something like that. Quote
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 31 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: It is not the Republicans...it is Trump and his buddies alone. He has a lot of supporters who will cheer this stickin' it to libbies. From the OP article. Zeldin wrote that Wednesday was the “most consequential day of deregulation in American history” and that “we are driving a dagger through the heart of climate-change religion and ushering in America’s Golden Age.” Zeldin boasted about the changes and said his agency’s mission was to “lower the cost of buying a car, heating a home and running a business”. So it's an Economic Protection Agency...making the world safe for capitalism. This where the rubber of unleashing hits the road. It'll be up to individual states to protect their environment - Red states vs Green states. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ExFlyer Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 15 minutes ago, Aristides said: And the Republican party is doing nothing to stop them What's the old Jewish saying. If there are ten people at a table and one of them is a Nazi. If none of the others says anything there are ten Nazis at the table. Something like that. Yeah...they seem to be scared of the Wrath of Trump. Although,many are speaking publicly and the constituents are talking. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: He has a lot of supporters who will cheer this stickin' it to libbies. From the OP article. Zeldin wrote that Wednesday was the “most consequential day of deregulation in American history” and that “we are driving a dagger through the heart of climate-change religion and ushering in America’s Golden Age.” Zeldin boasted about the changes and said his agency’s mission was to “lower the cost of buying a car, heating a home and running a business”. So it's an Economic Protection Agency...making the world safe for capitalism. This where the rubber of unleashing hits the road. It'll be up to individual states to protect their environment - Red states vs Green states. It is not "stickin' it to libbies.". It is "stickin it to other countries" that is the problem. Laying off or firing public servants is not "stickin it to the libbies" it is damaging to the American society and public. Tariffs is not "stickin it to the libbies" it is seriously damagign his own economy and "stickin it to the American public". Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Barquentine Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 Yeah, bring it on! Vehicles moving amidst heavy smog in Delhi, India. Photo: Saurav022 / Shutterstock.com Quote
Deluge Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: It will be interesting to see RFK Jr try to defend this, since he is outspoken about the effects of pollution on human health Trump officials decimate climate protections … https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/mar/12/epa-trump-climate-rules That's where you lost me, a$$hole. Kill the windmills!! Why are you goat worshippers trying to destroy Tesla, anyways? They're supposed to be climate friendly, yes? Edited March 14 by Deluge Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Deluge said: That's where you lost me, a$$hole. Kill the windmills!! Why are you goat worshippers trying to destroy Tesla, anyways? They're supposed to be climate friendly, yes? Kind of proves it ain't about the climate. It is about the heard think. 2 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Deluge Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Kind of proves it ain't about the climate. It is about the heard think. Or more precisely, the heard sucking up all the power and money. Quote
User Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 This entire thread is premised on pure ignorance. What is being talked about here is the absurd finding that "greenhouse gasses" not mere pollution, is a threat to human health because of "climate change." Yet, you guys are ignorantly conflating this with general laws on pollution or the clean air act. You sit here crying about Trump, when nothing he is doing here will be anything close to what China and India are doing right now to "climate change" with their greenhouse gas emissions. Quote
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, User said: What is being talked about here is the absurd finding that "greenhouse gasses" not mere pollution, is a threat to human health because of "climate change." Actually, AGW is the threat because of greenhouse gases. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Legato Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Actually, AGW is the threat because of greenhouse gases. I've just erected a greenhouse but there was no gas to put in it. Where can you get it? Quote
User Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 11 minutes ago, Legato said: I've just erected a greenhouse but there was no gas to put in it. Where can you get it? Exhale a lot. LOL Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 3 hours ago, eyeball said: He has a lot of supporters who will cheer this stickin' it to libbies. sticking it to the Libbies in Canada, since it's just another reason companies will move from Canada to the USA, Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Actually, AGW is the threat because of greenhouse gases. Canada can go down in flames to help the Chinese therein, while America eats Canada's economic lunch, Quote
robosmith Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: It is not the Republicans...it is Trump and his buddies alone. The Congressional RepubliCONS are doing NOTHING to stop them. 🤮 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 2 hours ago, User said: This entire thread is premised on pure ignorance. What is being talked about here is the absurd finding that "greenhouse gasses" not mere pollution, is a threat to human health because of "climate change." Yet, you guys are ignorantly conflating this with general laws on pollution or the clean air act. You sit here crying about Trump, when nothing he is doing here will be anything close to what China and India are doing right now to "climate change" with their greenhouse gas emissions. the threat of tariffs alone is not enough to break Canada, but when you combine the threat of tariffs, with widespread deregulation, and tax cuts, Woke Trans Green Canada is royally screwed Quote
robosmith Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 3 hours ago, eyeball said: He has a lot of supporters who will cheer this stickin' it to libbies. From the OP article. Zeldin wrote that Wednesday was the “most consequential day of deregulation in American history” and that “we are driving a dagger through the heart of climate-change religion and ushering in America’s Golden Age.” Zeldin boasted about the changes and said his agency’s mission was to “lower the cost of buying a car, heating a home and running a business”. So it's an Economic Protection Agency...making the world safe for capitalism. This where the rubber of unleashing hits the road. It'll be up to individual states to protect their environment - Red states vs Green states. China has big plans to clean up their shit hole and Trump just can't wait to take their place. 🤮 Quote
robosmith Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Legato said: I've just erected a greenhouse but there was no gas to put in it. Where can you get it? Just go in and lock the door so you can't get out, and soon there will be enough to keep you there. Just make sure all the windows are closed tight. 💡 Edited March 14 by robosmith Quote
User Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, robosmith said: China has big plans to clean up their shit hole and Trump just can't wait to take their place. 🤮 LOL, Oh yeah, big plans! Don't worry, we will have big plans sometime in the future too! Quote
robosmith Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 2 hours ago, User said: This entire thread is premised on pure ignorance. What is being talked about here is the absurd finding that "greenhouse gasses" not mere pollution, is a threat to human health because of "climate change." Yet, you guys are ignorantly conflating this with general laws on pollution or the clean air act. You sit here crying about Trump, when nothing he is doing here will be anything close to what China and India are doing right now to "climate change" with their greenhouse gas emissions. You ARE LYING. From the OP cite: Quote In all, the EPA issued 31 announcements within just a few hours that take aim at almost every major environmental rule designed to protect Americans’ clean air and water, as well as a livable climate. The barrage included a move to overturn a Biden-era plan to slash pollution spewing from coal-fired power plants, which itself was a reduced version of an Obama administration initiative that was struck down by the supreme court. The EPA will also revisit pollution standards for cars and trucks, which Zeldin said had imposed a “crushing regulatory regime” upon auto companies that are now shifting towards electric vehicles; considering weakening rules limiting sooty air pollution that is linked to an array of health problems; potentially axeing requirements that power plants not befoul waterways or dump their toxic waste; and considering further narrowing how it implements the Clean Water Act in general. Quote
User Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: You ARE LYING. From the OP cite: Not lying, I just didn't read that far into the article to find a very general and broad statement when the title and gist was not focused on that. But OK, so... a biden era plan. That is a plan, so nothing changed there. Pollution standards for cars and trucks... OK, can you even be bothered to explain what that rollback is? The left has been piling on regulations to force people into other vehicles and away from combustion engines. Quote
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Legato said: I've just erected a greenhouse but there was no gas to put in it. Where can you get it? Oh man...you just completely undermined the entire argument for acting to limit AGW. You deserve a Nobel and millions in cash and prizes. Good job! 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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