Nationalist Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Boges said: A Two-state solution. were that that could be done. apparently neither side is really interested. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, Boges said: A Two-state solution. They already had Gaza. Israel left them alone to their own devices almost 20 years ago now and they used that time to launch rockets randomly and constantly as well as constant acts of terrorism and outright war. You can't have a two state solution with people whose only goal is to see to your destruction. The two-state solution has been offered and rejected by Palestinians before and this debate for one has gone on for decades now. There is no two-state solution. Quote
Boges Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 1 minute ago, User said: They already had Gaza. Israel left them alone to their own devices almost 20 years ago now and they used that time to launch rockets randomly and constantly as well as constant acts of terrorism and outright war. You can't have a two state solution with people whose only goal is to see to your destruction. The two-state solution has been offered and rejected by Palestinians before and this debate for one has gone on for decades now. There is no two-state solution. it's almost like there are no easy answers. I can guarantee you that forcibly removing 2 million Arabs from their homeland will only increase the chance of continued terrorism. And if Trump wants to secure his theme-park for Murika. That means it'll be American lives at risk for a addled old man's troll job. It'll never happen. Nor will Canada become a US state. We're just living in crazy town because poor people in the US though this conman was going to lower their cost of living. 1 1 Quote
CouchPotato Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, User said: There is no two-state solution. You are right about this. But what is it if USA owns and controls it? Quote
User Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Boges said: it's almost like there are no easy answers. I can guarantee you that forcibly removing 2 million Arabs from their homeland will only increase the chance of continued terrorism. And if Trump wants to secure his theme-park for Murika. That means it'll be American lives at risk for a addled old man's troll job. It'll never happen. Nor will Canada become a US state. We're just living in crazy town because poor people in the US though this conman was going to lower their cost of living. No one said it would be easy, but the point Trump is making is that it is time to try something radically different. Who said they would be removed by force? This might be crazy town for you, but not for me. But then, you likely had no care in the world that one of the greatest scandals ever was taking place as Biden was not mentally fit to be President and his handlers ran the country without him and the media ignored it all. Just now, CouchPotato said: You are right about this. But what is it if USA owns and controls it? That was not the proposal. Quote
CouchPotato Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, User said: That was not the proposal. Quote
Hodad Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 53 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: No one has supported, suggested or otherwise insinuated such a ridiculous act. Nobody aside from the President, who has said on multiple occasions that the Palestinians would not be allowed to return to Gaza. 1 1 Quote
User Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: I stand corrected, I do see where he has outright said we would own it... ugh. Quote
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 2 hours ago, Deluge said: Trans rights, but definitely not the trans agenda. Their only agenda is to have rights. 2 hours ago, Deluge said: That shit is just as bad as sharia. You figure Sharia is over its shit and now it recognizes trans rights the way you do? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ironstone Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 22 minutes ago, Boges said: A Two-state solution. Palestinians do not want a two-state solution. They want a one-state solution. No Jews allowed, not a single one. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Assuming you know something about the history, you know that neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis could honestly be classified as the "good guys". Its a case of bad and bad. Funny how you say the same thing about the war in Ukraine - do you mean this the way Trump did when he said there were good people on both sides? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Deluge Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: 1. Their only agenda is to have rights. 2. You figure Sharia is over its shit and now it recognizes trans rights the way you do? 1. Wrong. Their only agenda is to have MORE rights. It's why up util last month, DEI was in every f*cking corner of this country. Now they have to be normal citizens, and it's pissing you diaper dopers off. 2. I recognize trans rights the exact same way I recognize mine. We BOTH have the same rights. Quote
ironstone Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 What do the Palestinians think about a two-state solution? 1 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Deluge said: 1. Wrong. Their only agenda is to have MORE rights. It's why up util last month, DEI was in every f*cking corner of this country. Now they have to be normal citizens, and it's pissing you diaper dopers off. Trans are only a small sliver of a much larger number of human beings for whom affirmative action is still required in the face of people like you. You're the people who aren't normal and yes there's a lot of people pissed off at you because of it. 18 minutes ago, Deluge said: 2. I recognize trans rights the exact same way I recognize mine. We BOTH have the same rights. You have the right to denigrate yourself and express as much self-loathing as you like but you don't have the right to do that to others. In fact it's against the law. Edited February 27 by eyeball 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
gatomontes99 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 31 minutes ago, Hodad said: Nobody aside from the President, who has said on multiple occasions that the Palestinians would not be allowed to return to Gaza. Prove it. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Deluge Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: Trans are only a small sliver of a much larger number of human beings for whom affirmative action is still required in the face of people like you. You're the people who aren't normal and yes there's a lot of people pissed off at you because of it. You have the right to denigrate yourself and express as much self-loathing as you like but you don't have the right to do that to others. In fact it's against the law. Crying, like diversity, is not a strength; it's a sign of weakness and you degenerates weep bitterly every day. Trannies will have the same rights as everyone else, and that is how it should be. MAGA! Quote
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 27 minutes ago, ironstone said: Palestinians do not want a two-state solution. They want a one-state solution. No Jews allowed, not a single one. The religious conservative ones might want that, Israeli ones say the same thing too unsurprisingly. So you need to negotiate peace with secular leftists from both sides. Good luck with that at the moment. They'll need a strong military peacekeeping force between the two sides for a generation or two before they calm down enough to allow time for left wing secularism to feel like it's safe to come out. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ironstone Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: The religious conservative ones might want that, Israeli ones say the same thing too unsurprisingly. So you need to negotiate peace with secular leftists from both sides. Good luck with that at the moment. They'll need a strong military peacekeeping force between the two sides for a generation or two before they calm down enough to allow time for left wing secularism to feel like it's safe to come out. Among Palestinians, it seems there is still strong support for Hamas and their ultimate goal. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/poll-over-70-palestinians-still-maintain-hamas-correct-to-commit-oct-7-atrocities/ 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
User Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 26 minutes ago, ironstone said: What do the Palestinians think about a two-state solution? The problem is that we have generations of people now, educated by terrorist leaders, who have little other perspectives. There is no way forward without extensive rehabilitation and education of these people so that they are not being raised to be terrorists and hate Israel from day 1 of their lives. Quote
CouchPotato Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 (edited) 14 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Prove it. I have to ask you though. Don't you think that it is wrong to share a video like this? I realize Trump did not create it. But still. I remember your John Rich post. Maybe Trump is just joking, but doesn't even the idea of joking about putting up a golden idol on that land seem reminiscent of something? If it is merely a troll, it is still wrong. Trump is not above reproach. Edited February 27 by CouchPotato 1 Quote
Deluge Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 17 minutes ago, eyeball said: Trans are only a small sliver of a much larger number of human beings for whom affirmative action is still required in the face of people like you. That's another one that needs to go. You EARN your job, or you get a dumb c*nt like Kamala Harris as VP. What a travesty that was, lol Quote
User Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 Just now, CouchPotato said: I have to ask you though. Don't you think that it is wrong to share a video like this? I realize Trump did not create it. But still. I remember your John Rich post. Maybe Trump is just joking, but doesn't even the idea of joking about putting up a golden idol on that land seem reminiscent of something? Wrong is a matter of degree. This has always been the downside to Trump. He posts stupid crap online. Its clear this was just some AI generated without much review and just thrown up on his feed. So... stupid? Sure. Wrong? Sure. End of the world? No. 1 Quote
CouchPotato Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, User said: End of the world? No. Perhaps not. But he ought to be called out on it, and by his own. Quote
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, ironstone said: Among Palestinians, it seems there is still strong support for Hamas and their ultimate goal. Israeli settlers who show strong support for Netanyahu and Trumps ultimate goal are eyeing up Palestinian territory like never before. Like I said, it'll take a couple of generations for people to calm down and cool off. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 8 minutes ago, User said: There is no way forward without extensive rehabilitation and education of these people so that they are not being raised to be terrorists and hate Israel from day 1 of their lives. That's a two way street, unfortunately there's bad people on both sides. Time and separation by international force is the only solution that will give these folks the opportunity to calm down and cool off. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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