myata Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 (edited) The list of the Republicans who: 1) publicly 2) clearly and 3) in strongest possible terms condemn Trump's treacherous and utterly false position on Putin's aggressive war in Ukraine and disassociate themselves from it. Please feel free to contribute. ------------------ 1. Sen. Roger Wicker, Mississippi GOP 2. Sen. John Kennedy, Louisiana GOP 3. Mike Pence, former Vice President Edited February 19 by myata 2 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
gatomontes99 Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 Yeah! We definitely need to stop Trump from ending the senseless killing of civilians in Ukraine! Plus, the war machine really needs it's $$$! 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
myata Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 Stop Hitler by cowering to him? No, they aren't that stupid just lying. Maga lies, that's all it does. And now, it lies for Putin, the war criminal. Anyways, 2 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
gatomontes99 Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 minute ago, myata said: Stop Hitler by cowering to him? No, they aren't that stupid just lying. Maga lies, that's all it does. And now, it lies for Putin, the war criminal. Anyways, Putin is Hitler now? I thought it was Trump. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
myata Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 (edited) We've got first courageous individuals, Sen. Roger Wicker, Mississippi and Sen. John Kennedy, Louisiana. Being silent, swallowing it as normal will sink you in this sh*t not only for the rest of your miserable lives but for generations that will repeat and recount them alongside quislings during WWII. And what have Democrats to say on this matter? Edited February 19 by myata 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Radiorum Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 That Trump called Putin before Zelensky - a snub that clearly indicates he favours Putin. (not to mention breaking diplomatic convention) - does not bode well for Trump to recognize Putin as the aggressor. 2 Quote
myata Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: That Trump called Putin before Zelensky - a snub that clearly indicates he favours Putin. (not to mention breaking diplomatic convention) - does not bode well for Trump to recognize Putin as the aggressor. He's doing the same dumbest trick he tried with Kim in his first term, hoping to extract concessions from dictator thugs by praising and cowering to them. They just lead him around their finger, getting what they want for free. Or else they already run him directly. One or the other. 3 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
eyeball Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 8 hours ago, myata said: The list of the Republicans who: 1) publicly 2) clearly and 3) in strongest possible terms condemn Trump's treacherous and utterly false position on Putin's aggressive war in Ukraine and disassociate themselves from it. Please feel free to contribute. ------------------ 1. Sen. Roger Wicker, Mississippi GOP 2. Sen. John Kennedy, Louisiana GOP Just two of them....that's it? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
myata Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 And this is how they sank into sh*t and shame for perpetuity. Disgusting moral ambiguity, in real time: “I hadn’t heard that,” Senate Majority Whip John Barrasso of Wyoming told The Independent. “I’m not exactly sure what he was--what you’re referring to.” West Virginia Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, a supporter of Ukraine, said she had not heard Trump’s remarks. “Well, I didn't watch him, or didn't hear him, so you're telling me something new,” she told The Independent. Blame someone else for psycho's rampage? So Republican, a synonym now. “I don't think with the feckless Biden policies, that a deal could have been made because I don't think Russia believed that the West would actually continue to support Ukraine,” Sen. John Cornyn of Texas told The Independent. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: That Trump called Putin before Zelensky - a snub that clearly indicates he favours Putin. (not to mention breaking diplomatic convention) - does not bode well for Trump to recognize Putin as the aggressor. Well, maybe Zelensky was just ignorant of what he was doing in America when he was basically campaigning with Biden during the election... maybe not. But, he clearly should have known he was not winning any favors with Trump when he did that nor all the other times he criticized Trump before this. Also, Trumps response to Zelensky on this and why he called Putin first: “I know that Zelensky wants to make a deal because he told me that, but I now know that Russia wants to make a deal.” Quote
robosmith Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 5 hours ago, West said: Yes let us know so they can be primaried You canuck primary anyone. Duh 59 minutes ago, eyeball said: Just two of them....that's it? Just wait until others get their spine transplant. Quote
myata Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Just two of them....that's it? I cannot promise that there aren't other cases that I missed. This is an important information and a document for the history of this period. Let's make sure it's correct and complete. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
herbie Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 8 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Yeah! We definitely need to stop Trump from ending the senseless killing of civilians in Ukraine! Oh and I assume you have the same sentiments over the senseless killings of civilians in Gaza. They should all just surrender now so the killings will stop. It's all their own fault. Quote
myata Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 (edited) Mike Pence (unverified): "Mr. President, Ukraine did not "start" this war. Russia launched an unprovoked and brutal invasion claiming hundreds of thousands of lives. The Road to Peace must be built on the Truth." Edited February 19 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 Three, as of now. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
gatomontes99 Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 5 hours ago, Radiorum said: That Trump called Putin before Zelensky - a snub that clearly indicates he favours Putin. (not to mention breaking diplomatic convention) - does not bode well for Trump to recognize Putin as the aggressor. Why the hell would he call Zalenski first? If you believe Ukraine is 100% innocent, wouldn't calling Z be like calling a rape victim and asking her what she wants? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
eyeball Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Why the hell would he call Zalenski first? If you believe Ukraine is 100% innocent, wouldn't calling Z be like calling a rape victim and asking her what she wants? No, it would be like calling the victim to reassure them they have the perpetrator and to not be frightened because we're not going to let them hurt you or threaten you anymore. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Matthew Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 12 hours ago, myata said: He's doing the same dumbest trick he tried with Kim in his first term, hoping to extract concessions from dictator thugs by praising and cowering to them. They just lead him around their finger, getting what they want for free. Or else they already run him directly. One or the other. Seriously. I mean he paid someone to ghost write a whole book for him about the art of the deal. So you'd think he would be better at it. 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 16 hours ago, myata said: Three, as of now. Some Republicans are speaking out, but without actually criticizing Trump “Make no mistake about it: That invasion was the responsibility of one human being on the face of this planet. It was Vladimir Putin,” Sen. Thom Tillis (R-North Carolina) said, referring to the Russian president. Tillis also said there is no “equivalency” between Putin and Zelensky. “Russia is the aggressor; there’s no question about that,” said Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-South Dakota). “[Trump] can speak for himself, but in my view there is no question who started the war.” “When it comes to blame for the Russian invasion of Ukraine, I blame Putin above all others,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) posted on X. About the only one to address Trump head-on was Sen. John Neely Kennedy (R-Louisiana). “Here’s where I disagree with the White House,” Kennedy said, adding: “I think Vladimir Putin started the war. I also believe, through bitter experience, that Vladimir Putin is a gangster. He’s a gangster with a black heart. He makes Jeffrey Dahmer look like Mother Teresa. He has Stalin’s taste for blood.” Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said, “I would certainly never refer to President Zelensky as a dictator,” Sen. Mike Rounds (R-South Dakota) called Zelensky the “duly elected” president of Ukraine. Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said she disagreed with that characterization. “I think he’s factually wrong on those points,” Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-North Dakota) told NOTUS, adding that Trump might have certain motives for this misinformation. “As a negotiator he’s always positioning and he’s in a negotiating mood these days.” Perhaps the most robust rebuke came from a member of the House, Rep. Don Bacon (R-Nebraska), who ticked through Trump’s claims and picked them apart them one by one in an X post. “Putin started this war,” Bacon said. “Putin committed war crimes. Putin is the dictator who murdered his opponents. The EU nations have contributed more to Ukraine. Zelensky polls over 50%. Ukraine wants to be part of the West, Putin hates the West. I don’t accept George Orwell’s doublethink.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/19/republicans-rebuke-trump-ukraine-gently/ 2 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) On 2/19/2025 at 12:34 AM, myata said: The list of the Republicans who: 1) publicly 2) clearly and 3) in strongest possible terms condemn Trump's treacherous and utterly false position on Putin's aggressive war in Ukraine and disassociate themselves from it. Please feel free to contribute. ------------------ 1. Sen. Roger Wicker, Mississippi GOP 2. Sen. John Kennedy, Louisiana GOP 3. Mike Pence, former Vice President Now make the list of people who did anything to end the f'ing war before Trump... Women and children were dying from bombs and gunshots. Patriots died for their countries. Tens of thousands of people dead, and cities ruined, and Biden had just as much chance to just use his words to end all that killing as Trump did. Why did it not get done 2 years ago? If you could go back in time 2 years there would be 10,000+ people still alive and Ukraine would have more land. The US would save hundreds of billions of dollars. BIDEN FAILED. PERIOD. Trump did what was possible when he took over. FYI those 3 guys didn't have sons and daughters getting shot at. Those 3 guys didn't have their homes and businesses destroyed. They didn't lose their farms and all their livestock. How much money did those guys make off the war? Let's be honest... a lot of senators and congressmen are heavily invested in those wars, and get lobbied by weapons manufacturers all the time. Those guys spend tens of millions of dollars on lobbying, and that's just what's on the books. Who knows what other secret perks they dish out. Edited February 20 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
robosmith Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 @WestCanMan DEFENDING PUTIN AGAIN. 🤮 Meanwhile Ukraine is doing all of US a HUGE favor by completely trashing the Russian military. Quote
Deluge Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 On 2/19/2025 at 6:24 AM, myata said: Stop Hitler by cowering to him? No, they aren't that stupid just lying. Maga lies, that's all it does. And now, it lies for Putin, the war criminal. Anyways, Obama is the real war criminal; he helped start this shit back in 2014, and Biden carried it through, like a good little government warmonger. Trump is just figuring out what is best for America. Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 29 minutes ago, robosmith said: @WestCanMan DEFENDING PUTIN AGAIN. 🤮 Meanwhile Ukraine is doing all of US a HUGE favor by completely trashing the Russian military. Stop defending Biden, dummy. THERE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WAR. AVOIDING THIS WAR WOULD HAVE LEFT UKRAINE WITH ZERO DEAD AND AN UNCHANGED BORDER, DUMMY! Biden caused the war, Trump ended the war, but somehow the war -as well as Ukraine losing it - is somehow Trump's fault. 🤣 Keep talking, dummy. It's like you're just determined to prove how stupid you are. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
robosmith Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Stop defending Biden, dummy. THERE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WAR. AVOIDING THIS WAR WOULD HAVE LEFT UKRAINE WITH ZERO DEAD AND AN UNCHANGED BORDER, DUMMY! Biden caused the war, Trump ended the war, but somehow the war -as well as Ukraine losing it - is somehow Trump's fault. 🤣 Keep talking, dummy. It's like you're just determined to prove how stupid you are. ^LYING AGAIN. Trump hasn't ended ANYTHING. Duh Edited February 20 by robosmith Quote
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