Liberals narrow gap with Conservatives

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7 hours ago, Aristides said:

No one is going to spend billions on subs for a short term lease. Maybe some old ones that they are retiring. If not the British, maybe the French.

All the same, we should be able to count on Britain and France, we helped bail them out of similar circumstances after all. And those circumstances have them in their sights as well.

[Nefarious Banana]

Canada's un-sung hero . . . Jagmeet!

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 2/9/2025 at 8:39 PM, NAME REMOVED said:

 

I've never seen anything like this, since Kim Campbell and the PC Party imploded in 1993.

I would say that Mulroney’s sagging fortunes resembled JT’s situation which is why both ducked the election audit and made what is called in rugby a ‘hospital pass’ to a hapless player about to be crunched. The difference is in what happened next. Trump swooped in to save the Liberals from a shellacking. Whether they manage to win remains an open question. Maybe the anoraks can tells us but I don’t recall a similar foreign intervention on this scale in Canadian electoral history. 
 

 

By contrast, Poilievre looked like a shoo-in until a few weeks ago. 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I would say that Mulroney’s sagging fortunes resembled JT’s situation which is why both ducked the election audit and made what is called in rugby a ‘hospital pass’ to a hapless player about to be crunched. The difference is in what happened next. Trump swooped in to save the Liberals from a shellacking. Whether they manage to win remains an open question. Maybe the anoraks can tells us but I don’t recall a similar foreign intervention on this scale in Canadian electoral history. 
 

 

By contrast, Poilievre looked like a shoo-in until a few weeks ago. 

It's Unique but I would point out that even dealing with mulroney's situation kim Campbell enjoyed a massive bump in the polls as well. She was polling higher than chretien.

Elections matter and campaigns matter. Trump will pay a big role in this election there's no doubt but the shine may come off of carney very fast. He's got some serious baggage and when canadians look at that they'll get concerned. 

Historically when times are dangerous people stick with what they know. THey know PP and they don't know Carney. And he's an elitist banker who's got next to no ties to Canada and has three citizenships. And has never been in politics. 

we'll see.  IF he's smart he'll go straight from his congratulation victory speech straight into the GG's office and call an election before he has to actually make a decision as leader and be judged for it but even then i think he's not going to do as well as he's hoping. 

 

[CITIZEN_2015]

The Cons are revealed for what they are. People realizing the fake and power hungry Poilievre. Mark Carney is the next Prime minister of Canada.  

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1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

The Cons are revealed for what they are. People realizing the fake and power hungry Poilievre. Mark Carney is the next Prime minister of Canada.  

Canada's natural governing ideology.

We're beyond party politics now.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Canada's natural governing ideology.

We're beyond party politics now.

You don't care as long as it's a left-wing party and they're appropriately corrupt   

Anyway, I think you're going to still be disappointed come election day. Although with what carney has just announced it's quite possible that that election day will be significantly postponed

[CITIZEN_2015]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Canada's natural governing ideology.

We're beyond party politics now.

But the power hungry Poilievre is still attacking the government on every opportunity his gear stuck on carbon tax while the sovereignty of our country is being threaten every day by a mad man in White House.

[taxme]

On 2/7/2025 at 7:32 PM, Radiorum said:

In the last month, the Liberal Party has enjoyed an 8-point gain, while the Conservative Party has seen a 5-point drop.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/liberals-narrow-gap-conservatives

The prospect of a new leader has no doubt turned some back to the Liberals.

The Conservatives still lead, and remain well-positioned for a win if the election were held tomorrow.

But what does the future hold? Which party do Canadians think will better handle Trump and his threats?

Some might think Poilievre is too philosophically aligned with Trumpism to launch a proper fight.

It’s to the Liberals’ advantage to make the threat of Trump more real. I think that’s why we have Trudeau saying Trumps’ threat to annex Canada “is a real thing.”   

Bloody frightening indeed. Another left wing liberal government voted in in the next election will surely mean the death of Canada. Canada cannot take another four more years of liberal woke and broke communism. At that point, i hope that if such a thing does happen, Trump will send in the American military and free Canada and Canadians once and for all from the Marxists in Ottawa. I hope that Trump will do everything possible to bring Canada down to it's knees where hopefully we can then come back and MCGA(make Canada great again). 

I have had it with what the Marxist dictator in Ottawa has done to Canada and Canadians over the past ten years. No one in their right mind will vote for the liberals in the next election. For those who do, they need to have their brains examined for defects. Liberal wokeism and going broke is financially breaking Canadians to the point if no return. 

Just because we have so many Trump haters here, does not mean that they have to try and destroy Canada just to please and make themselves feel good. Most members here do not even know why they hate Trump. When asked as to what Trump has done to them that has hurt them they suddenly become silent. Those people are just a bunch of followers and not leaders.

Is there any members here brave enough to let us know as to what and why they despise Trump? Go ahead Trump haters, make you day. 🤪

[taxme]

On 2/7/2025 at 9:20 PM, CdnFox said:

Always get the new leader bump. But as I've said a million times that rarely translates to the polls.

The more interesting thing which you completely missed and is worth talking about is that their support appears to be coming primarily from what's left of the NDP.

So the real question is does this open a door for the new liberal leader to negotiate not having an election until say 2026? Our constitution absolutely allows for that.

That might give a new liberal leader time to show that he's different than Trudeau to Canadians by running the country for a year and a half.

Is the real question here. If they go to an election as planned at the end of March beginning of April Carney will get slaughtered and really it's a question of whether it's a disaster or a complete disaster for the liberals. But if the NDP thinks that they'll get slaughtered if they go now and they would be better off waiting then they might have a chance of convincing them. Some of the recent polls have the NDP down to 12%

The left wing liberal wackos gaining some ground on the conservatives is quite scary indeed if it is true. I wonder as to who is taking these polls? A liberal outfit being paid off by the liberals to feed and tell us lies? I wonder as to what would really happen if all NDP supporters go to the liberal corner. Could it make a difference for the liberals and maybe help them to come back with a minority liberal government once again. I dread the bloody thought. 😷

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, taxme said:

The left wing liberal wackos gaining some ground on the conservatives is quite scary indeed if it is true. I wonder as to who is taking these polls? A liberal outfit being paid off by the liberals to feed and tell us lies? I wonder as to what would really happen if all NDP supporters go to the liberal corner. Could it make a difference for the liberals and maybe help them to come back with a minority liberal government once again. I dread the bloody thought. 😷

Well I'm sure there's an element of truth to it. Trudeau was horribly hated and some people will see carney as a return to the liberal party of old. But I don't think it's as strong as the polls would indicate, historically that is always been the case

What is all so interesting is that the liberal gains are coming as much from the NDP. It would seem that NDP supporters have all but completely lost faith in Jaggers and are either going to the conservatives or the liberals. When drag me did his little prop up deal with the liberals I commented to many people at the time that historically the junior party in these cases always suffers horribly at the next election. Left Wingers in NDP assured me that this wouldn't be the case this was a super mega hyper popular marriage.

I guess we'll see  

[taxme]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well I'm sure there's an element of truth to it. Trudeau was horribly hated and some people will see carney as a return to the liberal party of old. But I don't think it's as strong as the polls would indicate, historically that is always been the case

What is all so interesting is that the liberal gains are coming as much from the NDP. It would seem that NDP supporters have all but completely lost faith in Jaggers and are either going to the conservatives or the liberals. When drag me did his little prop up deal with the liberals I commented to many people at the time that historically the junior party in these cases always suffers horribly at the next election. Left Wingers in NDP assured me that this wouldn't be the case this was a super mega hyper popular marriage.

I guess we'll see  

Let's MCGA(make Canada great again). Works for me. 😇

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30 minutes ago, taxme said:

Bloody frightening indeed. Another left wing liberal government voted in in the next election will surely mean the death of Canada.

It'll surely mean the invasion of Canada is imminent, so cheer up.

[herbie]

Well he could just hoof it 20 miles south and surrender right now....

[CdnFox]

40 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It'll surely mean the invasion of Canada is imminent, so cheer up.

Will slip a message under your bed when it's safe to come out.

[Barquentine]

Yeah, what does Poilevre do when Trump endorses him? Get a smiling pic shaking hands with him,

or actually show some courage? There's the election right there.

[SpankyMcFarland]

3 hours ago, taxme said:

The left wing liberal wackos gaining some ground on the conservatives is quite scary indeed if it is true. I wonder as to who is taking these polls? A liberal outfit being paid off by the liberals to feed and tell us lies? I wonder as to what would really happen if all NDP supporters go to the liberal corner. Could it make a difference for the liberals and maybe help them to come back with a minority liberal government once again. I dread the bloody thought. 😷

Are you living in Canada? Been outside recently? Turned on the TV and Internet machine? If not, well, long story short, there is a foreign maniac on the loose trying to destroy this country. Hence the rise in Liberal fortunes. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

The Libs will get a late boost from less devout NDPers anyway. That’s baked in if they look like the non-Tory team with any chance of winning. But that is not what we are seeing now. 

Edited February 14 by SpankyMcFarland

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30 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Are you living in Canada? Been outside recently? Turned on the TV and Internet machine? If not, well, long story short, there is a foreign maniac on the loose trying to destroy this country. Hence the rise in Liberal fortunes. 

Even more specifically though it's a right wing alien maniac, that's why Canada's natural governing ideology is asserting itself by getting wrapped up in flags and singing Oh Canada at the top of its lungs.

Imagine if it had been a Democrat maniac president threatening to annex us. Poilievre can only dream.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Yeah, what does Poilevre do when Trump endorses him? Get a smiling pic shaking hands with him,

or actually show some courage? There's the election right there.

if people think polievre is going to be able to do a deal with trump that gets canada a fair deal he wins.  And if trump is saying he doesn't hate him then that goes a long way towards that. 

[Goddess]

Most polls and MSM coverage led Americans to believe that Kamala Harris had the election in the bag.  And look how that turned out.

I sense the same thing happening here.

[Barquentine]

13 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Most polls and MSM coverage led Americans to believe that Kamala Harris had the election in the bag.  And look how that turned out.

I sense the same thing happening here.

Possible.

[Goddess]

At this point, I don't think it's about getting the perfect person in power.  It's about stopping the bleeding.

Canada is on the brink of financial and economic collapse and all the Libs want to do is more of the same policies that brought us here.

[Goddess]

The message I'm getting from Liberal leadership candidates at this point is basically, "OK, yes.  We totally boffed the economy, immigration, housing, healthcare, inflation, the deficit.....but none of it was ON PURPOSE!  We're just kinda stupid, tee hee!"

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

The message I'm getting from Liberal leadership candidates at this point is basically, "OK, yes.  We totally boffed the economy, immigration, housing, healthcare, inflation, the deficit.....but none of it was ON PURPOSE!  We're just kinda stupid, tee hee!"

I'm hardly seeing them at all anywhere. This is officially the quietest leadership race in the history of man. If a leadership race was held in a library with the lights turned off, this is what it would be like.

The debates are coming up but they're both in quebec for some reason and one night apart, which is really just one debate then. 

They're not doing any really big rallys, a  few here and there with are attended by dozens as near as i can tell. 

I haven't even heard much of any kind of future plan from any of them.