Nationalist Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Oh, they will because they both want too. we will see. I'd bet the outcome is yet another limp noodle. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Aristides said: The good thing is countries no longer have a choice so they are being forced to move away from the US. You want to be the dominant super power and you blame others because you do. Now, don't be a b*tch. You losers have had the spotlight for far, FAR too long. Quote
ironstone Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Aristides said: It already is, countries are looking for ways to move away from the US. A majority of Brits now want closer ties to the EU than the US. Trump is seen as the poster boy for the ugly American. Doesn't Britain have it's own serious issues with mass immigration and crime now? Surely you must have heard about the grooming gangs primarily made of of men from a certain country? And Keir Starmer appears to have played a major role in the government coverup of this story. More Western nations should perhaps be looking at how Hungary and Poland have dealt with this problem, and why they have significantly lower crime rates. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 (edited) 36 minutes ago, ironstone said: All indications are that at this time, the US is going after the illegals that have committed crimes on American soil. Now it is a valid question about documentation as it seems most of those millions and millions that entered the US since 2020 likely destroyed their own documents before coming in or they used fake documents. If they can't prove where they originated from or they lie about it, what is the US supposed to do other than send them back to Mexico, which allowed most of them to pass through in the first place? Well then, you won’t object to Canada shipping un documented illegals that cross our southern border to the US. Edited January 27 by Aristides Quote
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 15 minutes ago, ironstone said: I think it would be a good thing if we did a lot more to secure our border with the US. It's been said that more people on the terrorist watch list entered the US via Canada than via the US/Mexico border. Canada also has it's own issues with illegal immigration. As does just about every Western nation. It's a big problem in the EU with the exception of Poland and Hungary, who refuse to cave in to the foolish immigration policy coming out of Brussels. We do need to be more careful who we let into our country in the first place but protecting US borders is the US’s responsibility. Quote
ironstone Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: We do need to be more careful who we let into our country in the first place I'm not sure if we have any standards about who we let in. The number of anti-Semitic incidents in this country has risen rather sharply in recent years. Now it's common to read about people shooting at Jewish schools and synagogues. It's a pretty safe bet that the people doing this sort of thing are most likely from the middle east. It explains why we now have protests on Canadian streets shouting 'death to Canada, death to America, death to Israel'. https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/chants-of-death-to-canada-cannot-be-accepted-at-rallies Immigration policy in most of the West has just been unbelievably awful for years now. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ironstone said: I'm not sure if we have any standards about who we let in. The number of anti-Semitic incidents in this country has risen rather sharply in recent years. Now it's common to read about people shooting at Jewish schools and synagogues. It's a pretty safe bet that the people doing this sort of thing are most likely from the middle east. It explains why we now have protests on Canadian streets shouting 'death to Canada, death to America, death to Israel'. https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/chants-of-death-to-canada-cannot-be-accepted-at-rallies Immigration policy in most of the West has just been unbelievably awful for years now. Hopefully that will change. Even most Liberals now realize we were headed in the wrong direction. One of the big reasons JT is headed for unemployment. Edited January 27 by Aristides Quote
ironstone Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Aristides said: t already is, countries are looking for ways to move away from the US. A majority of Brits now want closer ties to the EU than the US. Trump is seen as the poster boy for the ugly American. That assertion is debatable. Scroll to 6:00 in this link where it shows a majority of Brits actually agree with Trump's immigration policies(they were not identified as such before the poll question was asked). Keir Starmer is of course far-left so it's no surprise he would oppose any or all of Trump's policies. There is also a chart showing levels of immigrant crime in the UK per nationality. (1:16) Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
User Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 3 hours ago, Aristides said: It already is, countries are looking for ways to move away from the US. A majority of Brits now want closer ties to the EU than the US. Trump is seen as the poster boy for the ugly American. So ugly that all these people want to flee these countries to come here... Which is what we are talking about here. 39 minutes ago, Aristides said: We do need to be more careful who we let into our country in the first place but protecting US borders is the US’s responsibility. And it is a country's responsibility to take their citizens back. Quote
User Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 44 minutes ago, Aristides said: Well then, you won’t object to Canada shipping un documented illegals that cross our southern border to the US. If they are US citizens, sure. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: There is no way the President of Colombia would have known about a flight unless it was announced. We have our military flying into and out of countries all the time. Usually just doing training flights. If it had been unannounced, they would have landed, kicked them off and left. Unannounced might mean there wasn't a press release. But it was announced to Colombia. It will work until international leaders grow a backbone. But, right now, they are all pussies. They aren't used to negotiating with someone that is willing to endure the pain. I don't think trump is particularly willing to endure pain. I think he thinks there will be no pain. That's the basic premise the bullies work on. the problem is that evenutally someone punches back and their is pain, and it will be the American people who suffer that pain, not trump. And by THAT point a lot of people may be pretty unhappy with the us, and you could see some permanent changes. The EU is already talking about reaching out to canada to join. That would radically alter access to materials for the usa forever. Tarrifs can be a useful tool but if you wield them like some sort of blunt sledgehammer everywhere you go then people make changes to take that power away. And there's usually no going back from that. He needs to calm down. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: LMAO. Do you actually think Americans want to defect to Canada? We go up there to fish, hunt or we are lost. No one is invading Canada. If they are, they are not American citizens. Not Americans, illegals running from your authorities. Well over a quarter of a million Americans live in Canada and about 10,000 immigrate to Canada yearly. Quote
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, User said: If they are US citizens, sure. What is it you don't understand about un documented illegals. If you can ship them back to Mexico even though they aren't Mexican, why can't we ship them to the US if they came from there, even though they aren't American? Quote
User Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: What is it you don't understand about un documented illegals. If you can ship them back to Mexico even though they aren't Mexican, why can't we ship them to the US if they came from there, even though they aren't American? Ship them back to Mexico? This is a thread/discussion about flying Colombians back to Colombia. What are you talking about? 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: Not Americans, illegals running from your authorities. Well over a quarter of a million Americans live in Canada and about 10,000 immigrate to Canada yearly. Illegally? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 24 minutes ago, Aristides said: Not Americans, illegals running from your authorities. Well over a quarter of a million Americans live in Canada and about 10,000 immigrate to Canada yearly. So. Deport them back to their home. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 15 hours ago, Army Guy said: Why ? if they are illegal aliens what difference does it make what form of transport they use...bus, train , ship or airplane, is it because they were not put in first class or some how military transport planes not good enough i failed to see why this is a big deal....most of them arrived by foot to the US....why did columbia not fly them in on a commercial flight...they are after all their citizens... Do you know ANYTHING about Constitutional restrictions on using the military for law enforcement? Quote
Army Guy Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Do you know ANYTHING about Constitutional restrictions on using the military for law enforcement? Apparently not, maybe you can fill us in, on why you can not use military aircraft to transport anything.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Apparently not, maybe you can fill us in, on why you can not use military aircraft to transport anything.... Good luck getting him to ever put forth a real or honest argument. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: So. Deport them back to their home. So you do the same and not dump them in Mexico just because that’s where they crossed your border. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 25 minutes ago, Aristides said: So you do the same and not dump them in Mexico just because that’s where they crossed your border. This thread is literally about sending people back to their home country. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Aristides said: So you do the same and not dump them in Mexico just because that’s where they crossed your border. I already responded to this ignorant response from you and you just make it again? Quote
robosmith Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: Apparently not, maybe you can fill us in, on why you can not use military aircraft to transport anything.... Who said "anything," besides YOU? Seems the people and jets used to transport PRISONERS is a violation. The Posse Comitatus Act Explained Brennan Center for Justice https://www.brennancenter.org › research-reports › pos... Oct 14, 2021 — The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Who said "anything," besides YOU? Seems the people and jets used to transport PRISONERS is a violation. The Posse Comitatus Act Explained Brennan Center for Justice https://www.brennancenter.org › research-reports › pos... Oct 14, 2021 — The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law. Thank you for the link, but i did not find ANY thing in that link that said US military could not assist other government departments, IE providing transport or any other assistance other than they were not authorized to conduct Civil law enforcement without authorization from the law... DO you have proof they were not authorized by law....That being said nobody said they were involved in civilian law enforcement only providing a mode of transportation of unwanted people that were in violation of your laws... Military assist many government departments all the time, without getting involved in civil law enforcement...We have the same laws up here. And our military provide assistance all the time to civilian governmental agencies.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Who said "anything," besides YOU? Seems the people and jets used to transport PRISONERS is a violation. The Posse Comitatus Act Explained Brennan Center for Justice https://www.brennancenter.org › research-reports › pos... Oct 14, 2021 — The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law. Where is your argument? Where is the part of this link that says what you think it does? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the Coast Guard, Army National Guard or Air National Guard. It also only applies to domestic policy enforcement. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
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