Aristides Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 (edited) https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colombia-turns-away-deportation-flights-rcna189335 What an arrogant, ignorant, dumbshit. You would think he would clear it with another country before trying to dump undocumented people on them. Trump seems intent destroying any credibility the US has left. Edited January 27 by Aristides 1 Quote
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 Mexico too. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-refuses-us-military-flight-deporting-migrants-sources-say-2025-01-25/ What a maroon. 1 Quote
godzilla Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 and CHAOS ensues! hilarious! big tough man gets smaller countries giving him the finger. yep, thats gonna look real good to his supporters. what an !diot. the good news is that the economy will start to shake really quick with tariffs getting applied to everybody and their uncle. Canadian tariffs may never materialize in Trumps shock that other countries have economic power. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Quote The United States will immediately impose a 25 percent tariff on all Colombian imports, and will raise them to 50 percent in one week, Mr. Trump said on social media. The Trump administration will also “fully impose” banking and financial sanctions against Colombia, and will apply a travel ban and revoke visas of Colombian government officials, the president said. Colombia’s leftist president, Gustavo Petro, also hit back at Mr. Trump. In one social media post, he announced retaliatory tariffs of 25 percent on U.S. imports to Colombia and in another, longer post he said those tariffs would hit 50 percent. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/26/world/americas/colombia-us-deportation-flights.html Well, Colombia is in a world of shit now. Next time, fly the aircraft just off the coast and push the immigrants off and let their parachutes carry them home. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 Maybe Germany should just grab a bunch of migrants they don't like, call them Americans, put them on a couple of Luftwaffe transports and dump them unannounced at Kennedy. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: Maybe Germany should just grab a bunch of migrants they don't like, call them Americans, put them on a couple of Luftwaffe transports and dump them unannounced at Kennedy. It doesn't work that way. You are just being petty. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 US imports a lot of oil and coffee from Columbia so I hope you like higher gas and coffee prices. BTW, the US also has a trade surplus with Columbia. 2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: It doesn't work that way. You are just being petty. Trump seems to think it works that way. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: US imports a lot of oil and coffee from Columbia so I hope you like higher gas and coffee prices. BTW, the US also has a trade surplus with Columbia. Trump seems to think it works that way. No. Your mischaracterization thinks it works that way. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: It doesn't work that way. You are just being petty. Yeah, I understand the patriotism and desire to stick up for your country but trump is off base with this whole tariff thing. And he absolutely should have worked out something to make sure that the People he was deporting would be accepted back in their country. And it's completely weakened his position when it comes to putting tariffs on anyone else. When trump focuses on the basics like the economy and so on and so forth and he lets his staff handle a lot of the other things like how they're going to manage the deportations and stuff he tends to do a lot better. President is not king Quote
Fluffypants Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 (edited) Not 2 hours after the media hair on fire reporting, Columbia is sending a plane to pick up the illegals tomorrow. https://thehill.com/policy/international/5107740-colombia-presidential-plane-honduras-us-deportation-flights/ Edited January 27 by Fluffypants Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: Yeah, I understand the patriotism and desire to stick up for your country but trump is off base with this whole tariff thing. And he absolutely should have worked out something to make sure that the People he was deporting would be accepted back in their country. And it's completely weakened his position when it comes to putting tariffs on anyone else. When trump focuses on the basics like the economy and so on and so forth and he lets his staff handle a lot of the other things like how they're going to manage the deportations and stuff he tends to do a lot better. President is not king He also put banking restrictions on Colombia. That'll be even more effective. Colombia can't hold out for long. Give it a month and those flights will be welcomed. It is routine to send people back to their home country when they don't have a visa or passport. Colombia's refusal of their own citizens breaks a lot of immigration norms. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: No. Your mischaracterization thinks it works that way. Not at all, It's exactly what Trump is doing. 1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said: He also put banking restrictions on Colombia. That'll be even more effective. Colombia can't hold out for long. Give it a month and those flights will be welcomed. It is routine to send people back to their home country when they don't have a visa or passport. Colombia's refusal of their own citizens breaks a lot of immigration norms. The Columbian president said he would accept Columbians returning but will not have them treated like cattle. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 11 minutes ago, Aristides said: Not at all, It's exactly what Trump is doing. The Columbian president said he would accept Columbians returning but will not have them treated like cattle. Lmao. Whatever. So Trump won. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Lmao. Whatever. So Trump won. No, Columbia never refused to take Columbians back but if Trump wants to do it, he can buy them a ticket on a commercial flight like any other passenger. Quote
ironstone Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aristides said: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colombia-turns-away-deportation-flights-rcna189335 What an arrogant, ignorant, dumbshit. You would think he would clear it with another country before trying to dump undocumented people on them. Trump seems intent destroying any credibility the US has left. You're saying it's unfair for the US to send undocumented(I'm sure all of those aboard the planes were documented btw) people to another country? And most certainly, most if not all of those Columbians have committed crimes in the US. But you were perfectly fine with all the countries that have been doing it to the US since 2020? Edited January 27 by ironstone 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: He also put banking restrictions on Colombia. That'll be even more effective. Colombia can't hold out for long. Give it a month and those flights will be welcomed. It is routine to send people back to their home country when they don't have a visa or passport. Colombia's refusal of their own citizens breaks a lot of immigration norms. Unannounced? It is not routine in the slightest. Name one other instance when that happened. And I think you may be surprised. Tariffs are a bit of a blunt instrument. They're like going to war, sometimes necessary but meant to be saved for when you absolutely need to use them. And you have to wonder if some of the other coffee producers aren't going to take advantage of this and rise their prices by, comma say 20% or so? Make a little extra scratch while they're at it? And he will begin to lose favor with the public if they're day-to-day items go up and they feel like inflation is as bad as it was under Biden. Remember, it is not the other country that pays the tariff. It is the consumer. There are other banks. All he's doing is telling the Colombians that no matter what happens here and how it ends they need to move away from the united states and be less dependent on them and that hurts American Business. And I suspect lots of other countries are about to get a significant discount on their Colombian coffee. He's going to need to dial it back pretty sharply and realize that while gunboat diplomacy can be effective it's not the solution for everything Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 13 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Unannounced? It is not routine in the slightest. Name one other instance when that happened. And I think you may be surprised. Tariffs are a bit of a blunt instrument. They're like going to war, sometimes necessary but meant to be saved for when you absolutely need to use them. And you have to wonder if some of the other coffee producers aren't going to take advantage of this and rise their prices by, comma say 20% or so? Make a little extra scratch while they're at it? And he will begin to lose favor with the public if they're day-to-day items go up and they feel like inflation is as bad as it was under Biden. Remember, it is not the other country that pays the tariff. It is the consumer. There are other banks. All he's doing is telling the Colombians that no matter what happens here and how it ends they need to move away from the united states and be less dependent on them and that hurts American Business. And I suspect lots of other countries are about to get a significant discount on their Colombian coffee. He's going to need to dial it back pretty sharply and realize that while gunboat diplomacy can be effective it's not the solution for everything It wasn't unannounced. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 59 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Unannounced? It is not routine in the slightest. Name one other instance when that happened. And I think you may be surprised. Tariffs are a bit of a blunt instrument. They're like going to war, sometimes necessary but meant to be saved for when you absolutely need to use them. And you have to wonder if some of the other coffee producers aren't going to take advantage of this and rise their prices by, comma say 20% or so? Make a little extra scratch while they're at it? And he will begin to lose favor with the public if they're day-to-day items go up and they feel like inflation is as bad as it was under Biden. Remember, it is not the other country that pays the tariff. It is the consumer. There are other banks. All he's doing is telling the Colombians that no matter what happens here and how it ends they need to move away from the united states and be less dependent on them and that hurts American Business. And I suspect lots of other countries are about to get a significant discount on their Colombian coffee. He's going to need to dial it back pretty sharply and realize that while gunboat diplomacy can be effective it's not the solution for everything I should have said 1 day, not 1 month. My bad. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Army Guy Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 3 hours ago, Aristides said: No, Columbia never refused to take Columbians back but if Trump wants to do it, he can buy them a ticket on a commercial flight like any other passenger. Why ? if they are illegal aliens what difference does it make what form of transport they use...bus, train , ship or airplane, is it because they were not put in first class or some how military transport planes not good enough i failed to see why this is a big deal....most of them arrived by foot to the US....why did columbia not fly them in on a commercial flight...they are after all their citizens... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: It wasn't unannounced. I'm pretty sure it was. Unless you mean they announced it when they were in the air which is NOT how that works. 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: I should have said 1 day, not 1 month. My bad. I'm telling you, this whole tarrif thing is going to not work out the way you think But hey i've never been wrong before so maybe im' due Quote
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 (edited) 7 hours ago, ironstone said: You're saying it's unfair for the US to send undocumented(I'm sure all of those aboard the planes were documented btw) people to another country? And most certainly, most if not all of those Columbians have committed crimes in the US. But you were perfectly fine with all the countries that have been doing it to the US since 2020? Documented by who? When have other countries used military aircraft to fly people into the US without your permission? Ever. People who have committed crimes are easily deported by normal channels. Edited January 27 by Aristides Quote
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: Why ? if they are illegal aliens what difference does it make what form of transport they use...bus, train , ship or airplane, is it because they were not put in first class or some how military transport planes not good enough i failed to see why this is a big deal....most of them arrived by foot to the US....why did columbia not fly them in on a commercial flight...they are after all their citizens... Do you think other countries should be using military aircraft to deposit people in Canada without clearing it with the Canadian government? Do you think the US would allow that? People buy tickets on commercial aircraft and fly to places. You don't have to clear it with the Canadian government to buy an airplane ticket and leave the country and Americans don't have to clear it with theirs. What evidence do you have that the Columbian government is buying people one way tickets to the US and putting them on commercial carriers and why would they only be doing it to the US and not any other country? When you deport someone, that is your decision and their country of origin is not responsible for their transportation. Never has been. Edited January 27 by Aristides Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: I'm pretty sure it was. Unless you mean they announced it when they were in the air which is NOT how that works. There is no way the President of Colombia would have known about a flight unless it was announced. We have our military flying into and out of countries all the time. Usually just doing training flights. If it had been unannounced, they would have landed, kicked them off and left. Unannounced might mean there wasn't a press release. But it was announced to Colombia. 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: I'm telling you, this whole tarrif thing is going to not work out the way you think But hey i've never been wrong before so maybe im' due It will work until international leaders grow a backbone. But, right now, they are all pussies. They aren't used to negotiating with someone that is willing to endure the pain. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Nationalist Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Such bullshit. America still has the biggest stick in the neighborhood and Trump has decided to use it. Bravo! Do what needs to be done and to Hell with those who hate the public. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Aristides Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 The US has every right to deport people who enter the country illegally but just putting them on military aircraft and shipping them unannounced is just typical American arrogance thinking it is just fine to do to another country what they wouldn't stand for another country doing to them. Quote
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