The emporer has no clothes and not even Canadian Conservatives can stop it...

[godzilla]

Tariff war is coming.

CEOs are bracing for Trump tariff disruption: survey

'We need to be prepared' for tariffs, Alberta premier says after Trump meeting

so much for maybe helping Canadian Conservatives if they get in in the spring. they will be inheriting a nightmare that they won't be able to get out of.

this is going to cause a lot of pain on both sides of the border. Trump clearly only sees the regressive tax as financing his tax cuts for corporate America.

i am preparing my US equities to be as resilient as possible to the tariffs. i'll even have some cash to pick up some deals when the market implodes.

ideally, the ruling party would start to implement counter tariffs NOW.

no need to be in "ally" of a bully. no need to spend 2% of GDP on NATO. drop NATO and develop our own nuclear deterrent.

join the EU, BRICS, whatever...

[CdnFox]

They will resolve it easily. This is hardly the first trade Tiff we've had with the Americans.

The problem is that Justin is ignoring it right now. He's going into complete hiding and just to make things even more exciting decided that of all of the times this was the one he wanted to step aside and leave the country leaderless .

That's why the libs are about to be reduced to about 35 seats, which is 35 more than they deserve. 

[robosmith]

@godzilla You mean emperor

[myata]

11 hours ago, godzilla said:

join the EU, BRICS whatever

There's no difference, really? And when Vlad and Xi come and ask for something valuable to them, politely?

[godzilla]

Trump vows to create ‘External Revenue Service’ to gather tariff income

looks like this is really going to be a thing. of course, Trump consistently makes it sound like its something else... like its not the American people who pay tariffs.

"I am today announcing that I will create the EXTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE to collect our Tariffs, Duties, and all Revenue that come from Foreign sources,”

tariffs and duties don't come from "foreign sources". not sure what "revenue" he's talking about.

[Hodad]

8 minutes ago, godzilla said:

Trump vows to create ‘External Revenue Service’ to gather tariff income

looks like this is really going to be a thing. of course, Trump consistently makes it sound like its something else... like its not the American people who pay tariffs.

"I am today announcing that I will create the EXTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE to collect our Tariffs, Duties, and all Revenue that come from Foreign sources,”

tariffs and duties don't come from "foreign sources". not sure what "revenue" he's talking about.

Well, we're adding a DOGE and a ERS now. 2 new agency-like entities to "shrink" the government. But on the other hand Americans apparently don't need education or an environment, so it'll probably balance out. 🙄

 

Boy are those MAGA voters who were whining about inflation (while spending their stimulus checks) going to be surprised when they show up at the Wal-Marts in their short-shorts and wife beaters to discover that most of the crap they buy is 20-60% more expensive. 

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, Hodad said:

Well, we're adding a DOGE and a ERS now. 2 new agency-like entities to "shrink" the government. But on the other hand Americans apparently don't need education or an environment, so it'll probably balance out. 🙄

 

Boy are those MAGA voters who were whining about inflation (while spending their stimulus checks) going to be surprised when they show up at the Wal-Marts in their short-shorts and wife beaters to discover that most of the crap they buy is 20-60% more expensive. 

So...the threatened tariffs would take effect on January 20th IF Canada does not stop the flow of illegals and drugs to the US.

The Liberal government has responded with  $1.3 billion infusion to bolster the border. Will this stave off the tariffs until the adults can take power? We will see. But you Libbies appear to be praying the tariffs are imposed so you can gloat. 

Real fine patriots you Libbies are.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So...the threatened tariffs would take effect on January 20th IF Canada does not stop the flow of illegals and drugs to the US.

Here's the challenge. He never actually said he would forgo the tariffs if we secure the borders. He just said there was going to be tariffs and mentioned that our borders are one of the things that are unacceptable. He hasn't actually given us any indication whatsoever of what would be necessary in order to set aside the tariffs and frankly I'm not sure what he's going to before he takes power.

He may very well intend to put tariffs on just to show us he can. Leave them on for a month and then pull them or something. Or he may show up and say if you want to avoid tariffs here's my list have that done by tomorrow and we can remain tariff free.

The whole point of what he's been doing is to create confusion and doubt and uncertainty. At some point he will come forward with an actual list of demands, but until then we have no idea what it'll take to make this go away

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Here's the challenge. He never actually said he would forgo the tariffs if we secure the borders. He just said there was going to be tariffs and mentioned that our borders are one of the things that are unacceptable. He hasn't actually given us any indication whatsoever of what would be necessary in order to set aside the tariffs and frankly I'm not sure what he's going to before he takes power.

He may very well intend to put tariffs on just to show us he can. Leave them on for a month and then pull them or something. Or he may show up and say if you want to avoid tariffs here's my list have that done by tomorrow and we can remain tariff free.

The whole point of what he's been doing is to create confusion and doubt and uncertainty. At some point he will come forward with an actual list of demands, but until then we have no idea what it'll take to make this go away

Meh...I would believe he'd play hardball till Poilievre takes power but we'll see.

[WestCanMan]

I can't really see Trump starting a trade war with Canada just to force us to join the USA. 

That being said, there's a shocking amount of support from a lot of GOPers, and almost zero condemnation from the Demonrats...

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Meh...I would believe he'd play hardball till Poilievre takes power but we'll see.

That's possible. Feb to may tarrifs and then gracefully take them off for the new leader or the like. 

[CdnFox]

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I can't really see Trump starting a trade war with Canada just to force us to join the USA. 

 

I doubt it very much as well

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That being said, there's a shocking amount of support from a lot of GOPers, and almost zero condemnation from the Demonrats...

I am a little surprised with that. If anything i suspect the dems are just sitting back waiting to see what trump's really doing.  I don't think anyone really thinks he wants canada. He's got something else in mind. 

[godzilla]

well its good to know that the provinces stand united to act in case something does happen... i mean, except for Alberta.

Ford says Canada must come first as Smith breaks with premiers on Trump retaliation

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I doubt it very much as well

I am a little surprised with that. If anything i suspect the dems are just sitting back waiting to see what trump's really doing.  I don't think anyone really thinks he wants canada. He's got something else in mind. 

get ready to eat words, bro! if i'm wrong then i'll admit it.

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, godzilla said:

 

get ready to eat words, bro! if i'm wrong then i'll admit it.

So you feel his end goal actually is to Annex Canada?

[eyeball]

On 1/13/2025 at 12:23 PM, godzilla said:

Tariff war is coming.

so much for maybe helping Canadian Conservatives if they get in in the spring. they will be inheriting a nightmare that they won't be able to get out of.

It's why Poilievre's majority will be a one trick pony assuming he even gets one.

People will be sick to death of the right wing backlash long before the next election.

There probably won't be any snow to take a walk in.

[godzilla]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

So you feel his end goal actually is to Annex Canada?

oh sorry... i was responding to your earlier doubts that tariffs were even coming. if you've decided that they are then i'd be in agreement.

[CdnFox]

46 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's why Poilievre's majority will be a one trick pony assuming he even gets one.

People will be sick to death of the right wing backlash long before the next election.

There probably won't be any snow to take a walk in.

That's awesome   now i get to laugh at you after the upcoming election AND the next one   

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, godzilla said:

oh sorry... i was responding to your earlier doubts that tariffs were even coming. if you've decided that they are then i'd be in agreement.

Ahhhh my misunderstanding then. 

He says they are, honestly i don't believe tarrifs are his end goal. I had hoped that he'd come forward with his actual goals by this point but he hasn't. so he may well be serious about putting them on for now. 

I still kind of doubt it though. I could easily see him saying "i've signed the order, they go in force may 1 to give companies time to get their accounting ready.." then at the last minute pull them after getting agreements on whatever it turns out he does want.  But you never know with trump, that's the point.