A simple solution to reduce the number of murders in Canada

[NAME REMOVED]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

No it doesn't and beware of those who claim to speak for a god.

I know that one of the Ten Commandments is "thou shalt not kill." Blackbird is one of those Christians, who is selective, when it comes to following God's laws. If he does not like one of the laws of God, he won't follow it. 

[Gaétan]

13 hours ago, blackbird said:

" 6  Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. " Genesis 9:6 KJV

If God ordered capital punishment for murder, why do you oppose God and claim it is against "Christianity"?  Which evil spirit are you listening to today?

"1  Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. {ordained: or, ordered} 2  Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3  For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4  For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. "  Romans 13:1-4 KJV

This is not christian, Jesus taught forgiveness.

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, Gaétan said:

This is not christian, Jesus taught forgiveness.

Very childish.  Read the Bible.  There is far more in the Bible than one word or one sentence.

I just quoted Genesis 9:6 and you totally ignored it.  Do you think God inspired men to write Gen. 9:6?

Why did God ordain capital punishment there?    

Edited December 20, 2024 by blackbird

[blackbird]

11 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I know that one of the Ten Commandments is "thou shalt not kill." Blackbird is one of those Christians, who is selective, when it comes to following God's laws. If he does not like one of the laws of God, he won't follow it. 

Do you think the police have the right to shoot someone in self defence or to defend the other citizens?

Do soldiers have a right to shoot the enemy in battle in defence of their country?

Does this prove there are exceptions to the command thou shalt not kill?

Do you support women choosing to have abortions (freedom of choice)?

Edited December 20, 2024 by blackbird

[blackbird]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So your argument is that we should give the power of life and death to Justin Trudeau? You figure that guy is competent to decide who is worth killing and who isn't?

You realize that he would have killed all of the truckers Convoy people and the Palestinians trying to bring down Canada would still be running around

Never ever ever give the power of life and death to the state. They will misuse it as they misuse absolutely everything else and there can be no going back from it. Dead is dead

Nonsensical comment.   Nobody is talking about Trudeau.  Capital punishment would have to be based in the law and the law is implemented by the justice system and courts.  Of course this is not likely to happen under the Liberals.

[blackbird]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sure you did. He's the current prime minister.

Again this subject has nothing much to do with Trudeau and the Liberals.  We all know Trudeau and the Liberals will be out of government within the next 12 months.  The subject is just a general subject about using MAID for capital punishment for murderers.  Nothing to do with the existing Liberal government which opposes any capital punishment and does not support law and order.

[blackbird]

13 hours ago, Aristides said:

No it doesn't and beware of those who claim to speak for a god.

Not claiming to "speak for God".  The Bible is God's inspired word or revelation from God.  Do you believe that?

If you don't believe the Bible is God's written revelation, why are you even mentioning God?  What God are you talking about or what God do you believe in?  

Obviously you don't appear to  believe in the God of the Bible. 

If God communicated to mankind with the Bible, why would he not expect man to quote what he said?

Edited December 20, 2024 by blackbird

[blackbird]

14 hours ago, Aristides said:

Stuck in the Old Testament. Nuff said.

Do you know anything at all about the Bible?  Appears you don't.   The ten commandments are part of the Old Testament.  Do you think most of the ten commandments still apply today?

What reason do you give to say God's statement ordaining capital punishment in Genesis 9:6 would not apply today?   Can you give a clear explanation?

Edited December 20, 2024 by blackbird

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Do you know anything at all about the Bible?  Appears you don't.   The ten commandments are part of the Old Testament.  Do you think most of the ten commandments still apply today?

The Ten Commandments don't tell you to kill people. I'm OK with 5 through 10.

Edited December 20, 2024 by Aristides

[blackbird]

Just now, Aristides said:

The Ten Commandments don't tell you to kill people.

You are the one who dismissed the Old Testament.  So how to you explain that?  You dismissed it but now referred to the ten commandments as if you agree with them.  You are contradicting yourself again.

If you accept the ten commandments in the Old Testament, why would you not accept Genesis 9:6 in the Old Testament?  You still have not explained that.

[blackbird]

13 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Dozens of innocent people in the United States have been executed for crimes they did not commit. Everyone in a free and just society is entitled to due process if the law. I would rather 100 criminals go free, then for one innocent man to be condoned to death, for a crime he did not commit.

Did you know something like 50,000 people a year are killed in the U.S.?

So it appears you would rather allow thousands of people to be murdered  than give capital punishment to a small number of duly convicted murderers.  You are advocating saving a few murderers from capital punishment at the expense of the lives of perhaps thousands of innocent people.  Why are the lives of convicted murderers more important than the lives of innocent citizens?

[blackbird]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The Ten Commandments don't tell you to kill people. I'm OK with 5 through 10.

How do you explain the fact police shoot people sometimes?

[CdnFox]

47 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Nonsensical comment.   Nobody is talking about Trudeau.  Capital punishment would have to be based in the law and the law is implemented by the justice system and courts.  Of course this is not likely to happen under the Liberals.

Trudeau is the government. When you give the government this power you are giving the power to Trudeau. And even if Trudeau goes away tomorrow another person just like him will eventually get elected.

Honestly it takes 3 seconds of talking to you to remember how stupid you are. An elementary student would get this. What you are talking about is giving the power of life and death to the state and that means giving it to people like Trudeau.

It would really help your posts if you weren't a complete effing reatard all of the time. How the hell is it that I've had to explain something this simple to you three times?

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35 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Did you know something like 50,000 people a year are killed in the U.S.?

So it appears you would rather allow thousands of people to be murdered  than give capital punishment to a small number of duly convicted murderers.  You are advocating saving a few murderers from capital punishment at the expense of the lives of perhaps thousands of innocent people.  Why are the lives of convicted murderers more important than the lives of innocent citizens?

You are nuts. LOL

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Again this subject has nothing much to do with Trudeau and the Liberals. 

It has everything to do with them. Everybody does not know what will happen in the next election, nobody ever does. Poilievre could get assassinated tomorrow or get hit by a bus or get cancer or whatever, and the entire picture changes.

And as I have said many times now even if he leaves someone just like him will eventually get elected. And that is who you're talking about giving the power of life and death to. Could you please try and get that through your teeny tiny shriveled up dry little brain?

The government cannot be trusted with the power of life and death over its people.

[Michael Hardner]

13 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Dozens of innocent people in the United States have been executed for crimes they did not commit.  

And this doesn't take into account the fact that the murder rate there is two to three times ours.  And they have capital punishment.

So the op is dead on arrival.

[Aristides]

47 minutes ago, blackbird said:

How do you explain the fact police shoot people sometimes?

They don’t execute people.

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

You are the one who dismissed the Old Testament.  So how to you explain that?  You dismissed it but now referred to the ten commandments as if you agree with them.  You are contradicting yourself again.

If you accept the ten commandments in the Old Testament, why would you not accept Genesis 9:6 in the Old Testament?  You still have not explained that.

I said I agree with 5 through 10. 

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Dozens of innocent people in the United States have been executed for crimes they did not commit.  

How do you know?  Cause the criminals said so?

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

How do you explain the fact police shoot people sometimes?

They don’t execute people.

So if the police kill people, you agree with that because how they did it, but if the legal system executes convicted murderers, you oppose it.  Very mixed up thinking.

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

If you accept the ten commandments in the Old Testament, why would you not accept Genesis 9:6 in the Old Testament?  You still have not explained that.

Speaking for myself it's really easy. The first 5 commandments and the Old Testament are way to right wing and conservative.

It's bleedingly obvious why Jesus was a lefty - practically a commie in fact.

[herbie]

21 hours ago, blackbird said:

" 6  Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. " Genesis 9:6 KJV

Oh yes, Christians who can only quote from the Old Testament = Muslims.

Christ never once said to kill.
And civilized nations ended capital punishment generations ago so bugger off with more your move backwards preachings.

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

So if the police kill people, you agree with that because how they did it, but if the legal system executes convicted murderers, you oppose it.  Very mixed up thinking.

When police shoot someone it is because lives are in danger at that time, they don't do it as punishment and the majority of people shot by police survive. They are not executioners. It isn't my thinking that is mixed up. 

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Oh yes, Christians who can only quote from the Old Testament = Muslims.

Christ never once said to kill.
And civilized nations ended capital punishment generations ago so bugger off with more your move backwards preachings.

Sorry to burst your warped bubble, but the whole Bible was written by Christ.  Christ is God.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

And civilized nations ended capital punishment

And these same nations, like Canada, brought in catch and release so we have the disaster of a justice system now with dangerous offenders being constantly released into the streets.  Over a thousand tent cities across Canada with crime and drugs out of control.  Plus rainbow flags and crosswalks. The new woke culture.  We have a generation of heathen and woke.  Canada is a disaster now.

Edited December 20, 2024 by blackbird

[blackbird]

54 minutes ago, Aristides said:

When police shoot someone it is because lives are in danger at that time, they don't do it as punishment and the majority of people shot by police survive. They are not executioners. It isn't my thinking that is mixed up. 

You said killing is wrong period.  Now you're admitting police do it sometimes.  

What about "a woman's right to choose", i.e. abortion?  Do you support that?