Another Monster Attacks a School

[User]

Just now, Aristides said:

You want to ignore them to maintain the status quo. Arm teachers, put more guns in schools, just so nothing else has to change.

See. You just lie. 

The fact that you disagree with my proposals is just that. I am not ignoring anything. 
 

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Sure it is. Your country has more guns per capita than any country on earth yet you can't keep your kids safe in their schools.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

No country can 

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And of course we've had more than our fair share of killings at schools ourselves. 

 

But as long as you keep ignoring the issues to satisfy your hatreds things continue. 

[Aristides]

23 minutes ago, User said:

See. You just lie. 

The fact that you disagree with my proposals is just that. I am not ignoring anything. 
 

Run those proposals by me again because all I remember is you griping about schools being gun free zones.

[User]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Run those proposals by me again because all I remember is you griping about schools being gun free zones.

And?

That is at least one proposal. My point stands. 

 

 

[Aristides]

Just now, User said:

And?

That is at least one proposal. My point stands. 

 

 

So arm that 60 year old granny who is teaching your kids and make her responsible for their safety so you can maintain the status quo. My point stands.

[User]

19 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So arm that 60 year old granny who is teaching your kids and make her responsible for their safety so you can maintain the status quo. My point stands.

No, you tried to claim I was ignoring this... or that I wanted the status quo. Also, I did not say to arm 60 year old granny. You can't be honest for one moment. 

Not only does your point not stand, it is an outright lie. You just keep repeating it. 

[Aristides]

10 minutes ago, User said:

No, you tried to claim I was ignoring this... or that I wanted the status quo. Also, I did not say to arm 60 year old granny. You can't be honest for one moment. 

Not only does your point not stand, it is an outright lie. You just keep repeating it. 

So what exactly do you mean when it comes to not having schools gun free?

[User]

9 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So what exactly do you mean when it comes to not having schools gun free?

As I explained before... the only people a gun-free zone stops are the law-abiding. Clearly, the bad guys don't care. 

Let people who can lawfully carry firearms do so. If they have concealed carry permits, let them carry inside. 

Enable programs for teachers or other administrators to be armed if they want to.  

I also support hardening schools. Increase security - better access control, cameras, physical security, have SRO's. 

 

[Aristides]

25 minutes ago, User said:

As I explained before... the only people a gun-free zone stops are the law-abiding. Clearly, the bad guys don't care. 

Let people who can lawfully carry firearms do so. If they have concealed carry permits, let them carry inside. 

Enable programs for teachers or other administrators to be armed if they want to.  

I also support hardening schools. Increase security - better access control, cameras, physical security, have SRO's. 

 

Basically, that is what I said, put  the responsibility for your children's safety on teachers and other school personnel so you can keep the status quo. What if teachers don't want to be armed, I doubt they picked it as a career because they wanted to be armed and take responsibility for taking on shooters. Why aren't they entitled to the same safety as the children? You want others to take responsibility so you can do nothing. As usual, your only solution to too many guns is more guns. With 20% more privately owned guns than people, it should be obvious by now that isn't working for you. 

[WestCanMan]

It's weird that people who don't care about kids who were injured by the jabs care so much about gun control.

Can't we all just agree that pseudovax control is more important? 

[User]

17 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Basically, that is what I said, put  the responsibility for your children's safety on teachers and other school personnel so you can keep the status quo. What if teachers don't want to be armed, I doubt they picked it as a career because they wanted to be armed and take responsibility for taking on shooters. Why aren't they entitled to the same safety as the children? You want others to take responsibility so you can do nothing. As usual, your only solution to too many guns is more guns. With 20% more privately owned guns than people, it should be obvious by now that isn't working for you. 

That is not the status quo. 

That means there will be people inside a school lawfully armed who can protect students from bad people = less deaths = more deterrent. 

Funny how none of these bad people seem too keen on walking into a police station to try to kill people. 

I literally just said " if they want to." and then you ask me what if they don't want to be armed. Try reading. 

Putting better security in schools doesn't equal do nothing. 

I offered more than more guns. 

You just can't bring yourself to read or be honest. 

[Aristides]

24 minutes ago, User said:

That is not the status quo. 

That means there will be people inside a school lawfully armed who can protect students from bad people = less deaths = more deterrent. 

Funny how none of these bad people seem too keen on walking into a police station to try to kill people. 

I literally just said " if they want to." and then you ask me what if they don't want to be armed. Try reading. 

Putting better security in schools doesn't equal do nothing. 

I offered more than more guns. 

You just can't bring yourself to read or be honest. 

You are trying to push responsibility for an armed response onto people who never signed up for it so you can change nothing. How do you think kids will feel when they see their teachers having to pack guns?

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[WestCanMan]

43 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Basically, that is what I said, put  the responsibility for your children's safety on teachers and other school personnel so you can keep the status quo. What if teachers don't want to be armed, I doubt they picked it as a career because they wanted to be armed and take responsibility for taking on shooters. 

The teachers are already in the school, so they have more of a vested interest in protecting the students than cops, who sometimes wait outside for the shooter to run out of bullets. 

[User]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You are trying to push responsibility for an armed response onto people who never signed up for it so you can change nothing. How do you think kids will feel when they see their teachers having to pack guns?

Nope. Once again, try reading or being honest. 

-Letting people who want to be armed, be armed, is not pushing anything on them. 

-SRO's are employed law enforcement officers who did in fact sign up for it and are trained by the state in law enforcement. Licensed / certified as well. 

-Letting teachers carry firearms is not them having to. Also, it would be concealed or just a firearm readily accessible in a lock box. Kids don't have to see it at all. 

But... are you now more concerned with kids seeing a gun than getting shot by one?

It seems, based on your continued lies and inability to be honest about what I have said, that you just have some kind of emotionally irrational problem with guns.

[Aristides]

Just now, User said:

Nope. Once again, try reading or being honest. 

-Letting people who want to be armed, be armed, is not pushing anything on them. 

-SRO's are employed law enforcement officers who did in fact sign up for it and are trained by the state in law enforcement. Licensed / certified as well. 

-Letting teachers carry firearms is not them having to. Also, it would be concealed or just a firearm readily accessible in a lock box. Kids don't have to see it at all. 

But... are you now more concerned with kids seeing a gun than getting shot by one?

It seems, based on your continued lies and inability to be honest about what I have said, that you just have some kind of emotionally irrational problem with guns.

What if they don't want to be armed? You already have a teacher shortage.

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But... are you now more concerned with kids seeing a gun than getting shot by one?
 

I'm somewhat aghast at a so called civilized country that thinks it is normal to have people in its schools packing guns. I'm not the one having difficulty being honest. Different cultures I guess.

[User]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

What if they don't want to be armed? You already have a teacher shortage.

Then they won't be armed. Although, you could also offer extra pay for taking on an extra role as well. 

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I'm somewhat aghast at a so called civilized country that thinks it is normal to have people in its schools packing guns. I'm not the one having difficulty being honest. Different cultures I guess.

Civilized society exists only because there are men willing to fight for it and protect it. 

 

[Aristides]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Then they won't be armed. Although, you could also offer extra pay for taking on an extra role as well. 

Civilized society exists only because there are men willing to fight for it and protect it. 

 

Right. In your own schools😂. Except it is more pathetic than funny.

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Right. In your own schools😂. Except it is more pathetic than funny.

The only thing pathetic is you using hoplophobia as a reason for controlling others.

[Aristides]

30 minutes ago, Legato said:

The only thing pathetic is you using hoplophobia as a reason for controlling others.

In spite of what Trump might think, this is one of the major reasons 87% of Canadians have no interest in becoming Americans.

[eyeball]

21 minutes ago, User said:

Civilized society exists only because there are men willing to fight for it and protect it. 

You can be sure kids will get this loud and clear with armed teachers drilling it into them. Tweaking the education system is often a go to solution whenever moral panic or certainty kick in.

Take wokism for example, the way to really achieve a deep lasting purge is to turn kindergartens into something more akin to Klingon military prep schools.

Then one day mosh pits for seniors will be normal.

 

 

[User]

44 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Right. In your own schools😂. Except it is more pathetic than funny.

I don't think protecting children or people from violence is pathetic or funny at all. 

 

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You can be sure kids will get this loud and clear with armed teachers drilling it into them. Tweaking the education system is often a go to solution whenever moral panic or certainty kick in.

Take wokism for example, the way to really achieve a deep lasting purge is to turn kindergartens into something more akin to Klingon military prep schools.

Then one day mosh pits for seniors will be normal.

What the hell are you rambling on about?

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You can be sure kids will get this loud and clear with armed teachers drilling it into them. Tweaking the education system is often a go to solution whenever moral panic or certainty kick in.

Take wokism for example, the way to really achieve a deep lasting purge is to turn kindergartens into something more akin to Klingon military prep schools.

Then one day mosh pits for seniors will be normal.

 

 

Why you've been saying it for decades now!

[Aristides]

18 minutes ago, User said:

I don't think protecting children or people from violence is pathetic or funny at all. 

 

 

Except you aren't interested in doing anything about the reason they need protection.

[Legato]

47 minutes ago, Aristides said:

In spite of what Trump might think, this is one of the major reasons 87% of Canadians have no interest in becoming Americans.

I put that through the universal translator, it squeaked and then all the smoke came out. Do you happen to have a "smoke putter backeriner"?

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Except you aren't interested in doing anything about the reason they need protection.

No, that was your problem. You are quite happy not to deal with the problems provided you get to virtue signal against guns