West Posted November 26, 2024 Author Report Posted November 26, 2024 26 minutes ago, Hodad said: Yeah, everything's a cakewalk when you just make shit up. A. The law is clear regarding presidential documents and records: they are the property of the government, not the President. He can't simply claim them forever. That's the whole reason there is a case. B. He ordered things moved to Mar-a-lago on Jan 20 as he was leaving, hence they were moved after he was no longer in office. Again, it wouldn't have mattered, but you're factually incorrect. C. Yes, he tried to hide them. This is all well established. And as has been discussed literally dozens of times, nobody gets prosecuted for having documents. When Biden's lawyers found documents they called authorities and arranged for the return of the documents. Accidents happen. Non issue. Which is exactly what it would have been for Trump. Except that Trump's actions and written record prove that it was no accident, he took them. he showed them off, he refused to return them when legally obligated to do so and he literally tried to hide them from authorities. He even discussed the illegality of the acts with his attorneys. It was willfully illegal. You will simply excuse anything for your master. The case was simply political fodder just like Democrats utilized the Russian collusion bs in the same way. The fodder for the mid terms is going to be related to Christian organizations and they are already under threat of the Demtard lawfare machine. You are supporting some very vile people who are wreaking havoc on every major institution from driving down the value of your money, to the weaponization of health as seen in the Covid tyranny, to ridiculous allegations of rape and child abuse, and many more. Pretty sick stuff you are tying yourself to Quote
Hodad Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 2 hours ago, West said: The case was simply political fodder just like Democrats utilized the Russian collusion bs in the same way. The fodder for the mid terms is going to be related to Christian organizations and they are already under threat of the Demtard lawfare machine. You are supporting some very vile people who are wreaking havoc on every major institution from driving down the value of your money, to the weaponization of health as seen in the Covid tyranny, to ridiculous allegations of rape and child abuse, and many more. Pretty sick stuff you are tying yourself to Sure, clown, all the thoroughly documented incidents of wrongdoing are just imaginary. 🤪 Quote
CdnFox Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hodad said: Sure, clown, all the thoroughly documented incidents of wrongdoing are just imaginary. 🤪 Thoroughly documented like when they lost control of the evidence chain? This thing was going nowhere even before he wound up getting reelected. Even the appointment of the prosecutor was political. For full disclosure, I feel he did something wrong there and probably should have been held to account for it by law. But they went way overboard and made stupid arguments and couldn't even keep control of the evidence properly. And this was political. So you play stupid games and you win stupid prizes. Quote
West Posted November 26, 2024 Author Report Posted November 26, 2024 26 minutes ago, Hodad said: Sure, clown, all the thoroughly documented incidents of wrongdoing are just imaginary. 🤪 There's a pattern of democrats making smears and then dropping cases or having them tossed. Quote
ironstone Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 3 hours ago, Black Dog said: Got anyone who isn't a pedo? The old guilt by association tactic. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
West Posted November 26, 2024 Author Report Posted November 26, 2024 33 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Thoroughly documented like when they lost control of the evidence chain? This thing was going nowhere even before he wound up getting reelected. Even the appointment of the prosecutor was political. For full disclosure, I feel he did something wrong there and probably should have been held to account for it by law. But they went way overboard and made stupid arguments and couldn't even keep control of the evidence properly. And this was political. So you play stupid games and you win stupid prizes. In my view, the documents probably show something very dark and sinister about the weirdos behind the lawfare which is why they have went batshit crazy for the last 4 years Quote
Black Dog Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 45 minutes ago, ironstone said: The old guilt by association tactic. Yeah that happens when one associates with pedos and spends time on their private pedo islands. Quote
CdnFox Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 27 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Yeah that happens when one associates with pedos and spends time on their private pedo islands. Seems like it mostly happens when democrats don't have any actual reasons to criticize republicans and have to make crap up. You literally supported a guy whose own daughter wrote about inappropriate naked experiences with her father 1 Quote
robosmith Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 18 hours ago, Nationalist said: And now Jack is fcked. And thus proving his bravery in service to his country. Blame Garland for the late start. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 17 hours ago, ironstone said: This is my go-to guy for analysis on all of these bogus Trump cases. Cause you still don't understand how dishonest Douchowitz is. He will SAY ANYTHING he can get away with to defend a guilty client. Esp out of court. Quote
CdnFox Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 Just now, robosmith said: Cause you still don't understand how dishonest Douchowitz is. He will SAY ANYTHING he can get away with to defend a guilty client. Esp out of court. Wow, just like you and Biden! Quote
robosmith Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 8 hours ago, Fluffypants said: Great. -- Explain how Biden didn't steal, hide, share indiscriminately and refuse to return classified documents in blatant violation of the law. See how that works. I see how you LIED about Biden "refuse to return classified documents" in a desperate FALSE EQUIVALENCY. Quote
robosmith Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 7 hours ago, Radiorum said: Oh man, you've just been caught in a lie. The immunity filing has nothing to do with moving classified documents. It's all about what Trump, and his sycophants, did and said in their bid to overturn the 2020 election. Your source doesn't say that. On January 6, Trump clearly used inflammatory speech that was likely to produce lawless action. In the morning, he told this lie in a tweet – and put the onus on Pence to overturn the election: Jan 6th 2021 - 8:17:22 AM EST Then, the riots broke out. Trump knew the windows at the Capitol were being kicked in. He knew that rioters were chanting, “Hang Mike Pence.” His response in a tweet: Jan 6th 2021 - 2:24:22 PM EST The violence – especially directed at police - at the Capitol escalated quickly after that tweet. He gave his supporters the green light. So, you see, by any reasonable measure, he did incite violence. https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22Pence%22&resultssortOption=%22Latest%22 And ON TOP of ^this, Trump promising HIS GOONS pardons, PROVES they did EXACTLY what HE WANTED. 7 hours ago, Deluge said: Smith knows when to give up the charade. But you NEVER DO. LMAO 1 Quote
robosmith Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 5 hours ago, ironstone said: I recall that he was accused by one prominent witness about Epstein island. He challenged this witness and vigorously denied her allegations. She later admitted that she was now not certain that is it was Alan Dershowitz. Despite what we may think of defendants accused of horrible crimes, they are entitled to legal representation. Dishonest representation NEVER serves JUSTICE. We have saying here: "the defendant is entitled to all the due process he can AFFORD." And Trump abuses the hell of of that.... Quote
ironstone Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 8 minutes ago, robosmith said: Cause you still don't understand how dishonest Douchowitz is. He will SAY ANYTHING he can get away with to defend a guilty client. Esp out of court. I listen to him on Spotify a few times a week and enjoy his show. I always get the impression that he is fair and not afraid to voice his opinion, even when his former 'friends' ostracize him. Whether you like it or not, it is the job of defense lawyers to defend their clients to the best of their ability. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ironstone Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Dishonest representation NEVER serves JUSTICE. We have saying here: "the defendant is entitled to all the due process he can AFFORD." And Trump abuses the hell of of that.... Are you suggesting that a wealthy person should not be able to hire the best available lawyers if the need arises? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
robosmith Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 4 hours ago, West said: The case was simply political fodder just like Democrats utilized the Russian collusion bs in the same way. The fodder for the mid terms is going to be related to Christian organizations and they are already under threat of the Demtard lawfare machine. You are supporting some very vile people who are wreaking havoc on every major institution from driving down the value of your money, to the weaponization of health as seen in the Covid tyranny, to ridiculous allegations of rape and child abuse, and many more. Pretty sick stuff you are tying yourself to You are a ^LYING IGNORAMUS as USUAL. On top of that, you still believe FOS LIES, despite the PROOF they are LIARS. Just now, ironstone said: Are you suggesting that a wealthy person should not be able to hire the best available lawyers if the need arises? I am saying what I wrote. Defense attorneys should be sanctioned for LYING ANYWHERE, not JUST in court. Quote
ironstone Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: I am saying what I wrote. Defense attorneys should be sanctioned for LYING ANYWHERE, not JUST in court. Would you apply that same standard to Fani and her lover Wade for their lies? 2 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Nationalist Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 30 minutes ago, robosmith said: And thus proving his bravery in service to his country. Blame Garland for the late start. Oh Garland will get his... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 8 hours ago, Radiorum said: Oh man, you've just been caught in a lie. The immunity filing has nothing to do with moving classified documents. It's all about what Trump, and his sycophants, did and said in their bid to overturn the 2020 election. Your source doesn't say that. On January 6, Trump clearly used inflammatory speech that was likely to produce lawless action. In the morning, he told this lie in a tweet – and put the onus on Pence to overturn the election: Jan 6th 2021 - 8:17:22 AM EST Then, the riots broke out. Trump knew the windows at the Capitol were being kicked in. He knew that rioters were chanting, “Hang Mike Pence.” His response in a tweet: Jan 6th 2021 - 2:24:22 PM EST The violence – especially directed at police - at the Capitol escalated quickly after that tweet. He gave his supporters the green light. So, you see, by any reasonable measure, he did incite violence. https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22Pence%22&resultssortOption=%22Latest%22 If you are going to introduce assumptions of motives and ignore SCOTUS ruling, how can you ever come to a logical and correct solution? 1 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
gatomontes99 Posted November 26, 2024 Report Posted November 26, 2024 5 hours ago, Hodad said: Yeah, everything's a cakewalk when you just make shit up. A. The law is clear regarding presidential documents and records: they are the property of the government, not the President. He can't simply claim them forever. That's the whole reason there is a case. B. He ordered things moved to Mar-a-lago on Jan 20 as he was leaving, hence they were moved after he was no longer in office. Again, it wouldn't have mattered, but you're factually incorrect. C. Yes, he tried to hide them. This is all well established. And as has been discussed literally dozens of times, nobody gets prosecuted for having documents. When Biden's lawyers found documents they called authorities and arranged for the return of the documents. Accidents happen. Non issue. Which is exactly what it would have been for Trump. Except that Trump's actions and written record prove that it was no accident, he took them. he showed them off, he refused to return them when legally obligated to do so and he literally tried to hide them from authorities. He even discussed the illegality of the acts with his attorneys. It was willfully illegal. You will simply excuse anything for your master. He was in office on J20 until noon. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
West Posted November 26, 2024 Author Report Posted November 26, 2024 48 minutes ago, robosmith said: You are a ^LYING IGNORAMUS as USUAL. On top of that, you still believe FOS LIES, despite the PROOF they are LIARS. I am saying what I wrote. Defense attorneys should be sanctioned for LYING ANYWHERE, not JUST in court. Your sides lawfare was thoroughly rejected by the American people. Yet you continue to hold on for dear life. I guess it is embarrassing to admit you bought into many hoaxes and vile behavior doesn't it? 1 Quote
Deluge Posted November 27, 2024 Report Posted November 27, 2024 1 hour ago, robosmith said: But you NEVER DO. LMAO robowoke kicks, bites, and claws for relevance but it he just can't find it. Go get a shot of estrogen. 1 2 Quote
Hodad Posted November 27, 2024 Report Posted November 27, 2024 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: He was in office on J20 until noon. At which point those boxes were still at the WH. Quote
CdnFox Posted November 27, 2024 Report Posted November 27, 2024 5 hours ago, Hodad said: At which point those boxes were still at the WH. The order to move them had already been given. Swing and a miss Quote
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