What do the Dems Honestly Think About Men, Women, the Type of Women Who Vote for Them, and Marriage?

[User]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

It doesn't. I'm looking at the WPATh guidelines referenced:

Where does your link reference WPATh and state that it adheres to those standards?

 

 

[CaringCdn]

I listen to the Five on Fox on the radio. They're funny & very entertaining and think nothing of making jokes about whatever the news is of the day. They also express their opinions & are open about the fact that they are their opinions. I look forward to listening to them every day not only for the news but for their jokes & yes, their opinions.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

That's true, it's simple - too simple.

Nope. Perfectly adequate and was originally the intent all along. Your problem is it gives you no wiggle room to try and demand that something that isn't a woman is actually a woman. And you want to do that for propaganda reasons, not for any other reason.

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Human beings are not cardboard cutouts. There are entire spectrums of biological, emotional, psychological traits in a population.

That has nothing to do with the definition of woman.

This is extremely easy.  That's what a woman is. That doesnt' mean that women don't have other traits as well but that's what a woman is. 

It's like this:  a redhead is a person with red hair. That's the definition. That doesn't change the fact that redheads are not cardboard cutouts they are entire spectrums of biological emotional psychological traits. But the definition is still accurate. Same with 'woman'.

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To believe that gender is binary is to go against both the biological and medical information we have. To not believe that there is overlap is an ignorant position.

 

 

And once again I see that you are trying to conflate sex with gender and the two are not synonymous. But lefties with bad arguments try to make them synonymous and then not synonymous at the same time as it suits their argument. "woman" is not a gender.  Even 'female' is not a gender, tho we tend to use it a little loosly to address 'feminine' issues which is a gender. 

However, with regards to gender specifically: The opposite is true. There are two genders, and biologically and medically that is accurate.  People tend to be a combination of the two genders, and that may vary for each personality trait. For example someone could be more masculine when it comes to Some elements of their life and more feminine with others.

There is what is subjectively considered to be a "window" of "normal" and some people exist on that spectrum outside of 'normal' and there's nothing wrong with that.  but there's still just two genders. 

Lets say i have a bottle of tea, and a bottle of honey. And i mix them together to make a drink.   If i put in more honey than tea it'll taste one way, and if i add more tea it'll change the taste quite a bit until it's entirely different.  You can make dozens if not hundreds of noticeably different drinks or flavours going from "all honey" to "all tea".   

BUT  at the end of teh day  it's still just two ingredients. Tea and honey.  Just as there are only two genders. 

 

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Your reality. Which does mesh with real reality.

I won't berate you for the obvious spelling mistake but I will berate you for the stupidity of your statement. There is only one reality. Your choice to delude yourself and Pretend that your false narratives are in fact reality is simply dishonest

 

[Black Dog]

38 minutes ago, User said:

Where does your link reference WPATh and state that it adheres to those standards?

 

 

Surgical options

Gender-affirming care can also involve surgical options. Having surgery is a personal decision, and whether you choose to have some, none or all is entirely up to you.

All lower or bottom surgeries are only available for people 18 years of age or older, regardless of gender. This aligns with the World Professional Association for Transgender Health's Standards of care. According to these, a person must be the age of majority to undergo gender reassignment surgery.

[WestCanMan]

23 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Fully transitioned here means surgery, dummy, which 8 t=year olds can't get.

I didn't say that "getting puberty blockers = fully transitioned" id10t.

I never said that they could get surgery at 8, id10t.

The point is that the end result of fully transitioning a child IS sterility, and there's no way that a guidance counsellor gets to even have that discussion about starting down that road with a child without the parents expressed written consent, period. 

No responsible parent cares how the state or any medical authority on earth officially feels about the use of puberty blockers, and just how "reversible" their effects are: at the end of the day, it is the parents who need to give informed consent or all hell will break loose. 

And I'll give you an example of just how "reversible" the effects of puberty blockers are... By the age of 13, Shaq was 6'6 and weighed 200 lbs. If he started puberty blockers at 8, do you think that he would have grown to be 6'6 and 200 lbs at 13? Is there even a 1% chance? 

So how long would these kids be on puberty blockers, and more importantly entrenched in their current mindset, before the parents ever find out? And remember, these guidance counsellors wouldn't just be "helping kids transition", they would almost certainly be misleading them about long-term outcomes, and they would definitely be teaching kids to keep MASSIVE secrets from their parents. 

Who in the f thinks that they have the right to undermine the parent-child relationship to that extent, in a situation where the parents haven't committed a crime against their child?????

It would be one thing for counsellors to talk to kids and then show a video of that entire conversation to the parents that same night. A conversation about that could be started, but not "Let's do this thing, Johnny!". Parents would need to know exactly what kids were told, word-by-word, how well they truly understood the long-term and short-term ramifications of it, and most kids really don't get it.

• If there's a box of Fruit Loops on the table beside a plate with a couple of eggs and some avocado on toast, almost every 8-yr-old on earth will choose the sugar rush every day if you give them full autonomy. If you want them to eat healthy, then "bowl of stunted growth and obesity" can't be an option. Impressing upon them the long-term benefits of healthy choices is a monumental task, and can't be done with 2 or 3 conversations. Look how many adults choose "alcohol, alcohol, and more alcohol", even when they can tell by looking in the mirror that it's killing them. Ditto for cigs. Ditto for drugs. Ditto for gambling... Health and well-being isn't always the easiest choice. Sometimes it's hard. 8-yr-olds aren't wise and brimming with impulse control. "Long-term risks/rewards" aren't on their radar.
• Similarly, if you give 8-yr-olds the option of choosing dragon-rider and plumber as a career choice, some will choose dragon-rider. Honest to God, I'm pretty sure that AOC and a lot of other leftists would enroll their kid in that class instead of PE if they could. Reality isn't always the easiest choice. 

Let's be honest, there are adults who are too stupid to make these kinds of decisions for themselves, like you and myata. Kids at 8 aren't ready.

[robosmith]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...robo you really are a plank. I feel sorry for you. Your whole belief system and media support system are falling apart. It must suck to finally have had all the Libbie crap exposed. Laid bare for the world to see.

No, it's NOT "falling apart." Things like Trump demagoguery have happened in the past. Esp on the right, like when Joe McCarthy gained a TEMPORARY CULT following and exercised the influence of a CULT leader.

But soon the fever broke, and the majority came to their senses; many kicking themselves over how they could have been so deluded.

I hope you deliver yourself some extra hard kicks, for being such a devoted SUCKER.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

That's because there is not a simple definition. It's not simple a matter of - well, if you have breasts, ovaries and a vagina, you are a woman. Because "who you are" is determined by your brain/mind - and transgender women are women in their organ of thought. (Brains are dimorphic, too.) I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for some people to understand. Also, I'm not sure why some people are so fixated on a rigid definition and feel threatened if others don't fit into their narrow understanding of the human condition.

Conservatives are simple minded by nature and their anti-science understanding demands simple explanations.

AKA stuck in the past, before the complexities of the brain/mind development were close to being understood.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Legato said:

Binary has zero decimal places. You don't believe me? Then go ask a computer, nicely mind you.

Thanks for demonstrating your simple minded understanding that denies binary representations of floating point numbers.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Somebody needs to read  Karl Popper.

Somebody should have stayed in school so he could be dissuaded of his know it all attitudes. 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Sometimes when they're 8, they just don't know.

Leftists: "8 yr olds are wise and mature enough to unilaterally decide to change their sex and become infertile: they understand the ramifications. Also, 19-yr-old college kids are too stupid to understand how loans work, so they can't be held accountable."  

Just like Trump was a perpetual child who had to declare bankruptcy 6 times because he didn't know that loans had to be paid bank. LMAO

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for demonstrating your simple minded understanding that denies binary representations of floating point numbers.

binary representations of floating point numbers aren't A decimal system. They don't even perfectly mirror a decimal system.

He Is 100% correct and you are 100% wrong.

There Goes your claim of being a computer expert out the window  Imagine thinking that floating point stuff is the same as a decimal system

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

I had a friend when I was eight who thought he was an eagle, and another who thought he was a motorcycle. Whatever game we played in the schoolyard he would always change gears while running.

Games are not always reflective of what someone thinks. I used to pretend I was Superman when I was 8.

Of course I knew I would never be, but dreamed it would solve many problems.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Because those opposing opinions aren't really opinions - they're directives, and we don't put up with directives from freedom hating psychopaths.  

You always have the freedom to be IGNORANT, and OBVIOUSLY love it A LOT.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It's a leftist talking point, dummy. Not something that they've managed to codify into law. 

The stupid things that you are saying are just laftard talking points. They're id10tic. 

It's one of the reasons the Demis just lost - their talking points don't resonate with enough people. Too many people have IQQs over 70.

And like most Cons, you continually mistake talking points resonating with enough people for FACTS.

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I don't need some fcked-up philosopher to warp my understanding of love and tolerance...thank you very much.

You LASHING OUT, says that you do.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

And like most Cons, you continually mistake talking points resonating with enough people for FACTS.

uhhhh.... no, no he's pointing out that YOU did. 

i know i know ...  some of the words he used were pretty big but do your best to keep up  

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You always have the freedom to be IGNORANT, and OBVIOUSLY love it A LOT.

No, that's you. You're the biggest hot air dispenser on this forum - you're also the biggest toxic gasser - it's comical, really. LOL!

[Deluge]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And like most Cons, you continually mistake talking points resonating with enough people for FACTS.

robowrong thinks Karl Marxisms are facts. 

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, Deluge said:

No, that's you. You're the biggest hot air dispenser on this forum - you're also the biggest toxic gasser - it's comical, really. LOL!

I'll take that as compliment coming from the biggest ^BULLSHITTER posting here.

[User]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Surgical options

Yeah, that was specifically in regards to the lower bottom surgeries. 

Where is that applied to your claim that top surgeries only happen to 16 year olds?

 

[robosmith]

4 minutes ago, Deluge said:

robowrong thinks Karl Marxisms are facts. 

You need to stop mistaking YOUR fantasies for what others THINK.

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Yeah god forbid you let new ideas penetrate your veil of stupidity.

All lower or bottom surgeries are only available for people 18 years of age or older, regardless of gender.

Love and tolerance are not new ideas...Pup.

[CouchPotato]

38 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Games are not always reflective of what someone thinks. I used to pretend I was Superman when I was 8.

Of course I knew I would never be, but dreamed it would solve many problems.

You aren't all that far off the mark, though.

I wanted to be a ninja. Or a milkman.

[Black Dog]

11 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Love and tolerance are not new ideas...Pup.

Both are foreign concepts to you.

[Legato]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for demonstrating your simple minded understanding that denies binary representations of floating point numbers.

Good point Robo, Is it a floating point or one which is fixed, as 0 or 1 positive or negative. However no decimal point is anywhere to be seen. That must be why your boat is always sinking.

[Radiorum]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's what a woman is.

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

There are two genders, and biologically and medically that is accurate.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio

 

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

"window" of "normal" and some people exist on that spectrum outside of 'normal' and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

You never did answer my question about how anyone who falls outside of what you call "normal" is not natural

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I won't berate you for the obvious spelling mistake but I will berate you for the stupidity of your statement. There is only one reality. Your choice to delude yourself and Pretend that your false narratives are in fact reality is simply dishonest

yeah, I accidently omitted the word "not"

It should read "does not mesh"