What do the Dems Honestly Think About Men, Women, the Type of Women Who Vote for Them, and Marriage?

[WestCanMan]

I've been with my wife for just shy of 20 yrs, married for 16, and I have a hard time understanding how the Dems felt like putting this ad out was a high-percentage play. 

The last thing my wife needs to do is lie to me about who she's gonna vote for, and if she felt like she did need to lie, she's smart enough to figure out how to do that all on her own. 

Honestly, that commercial just made me think that the Dems feel like their female voters are weak and stupid. 

If I was running Kamala's campaign, I'd rather tell women "Honey, go tell your man who to vote for 😉" and make a joke of it than "If you're weak and stupid then of course you're voting for me, so here's what you need to do...". 

At the same time she was calling women - or at least her own voters - weak and stupid, she was calling men controlling and abusive. It just makes men who were sitting on the fence less likely to vote for her, and more likely to vote for Trump.

I really have a hard time figuring out what portion of the population wasn't insulted by that. It could only be "people who think that men are controlling and evil and women are weak and stupid", but at the end of the day, you're still saying that women couldn't figure out how the secret ballot works all on their own.

 

If I had to think of the easiest scenario where an abusive man can force his woman to vote the way that he wants her to vote, what would that be...? 

"Hey woman, look what I just found in the mail... Your ballot! Congrats! Now you're gonna sit right down there in that chair and put X's where I tell you to. Then you're gonna sign it, and I'll watch you put it in the dropoff location. Ain't democracy great?"

There are so many different ways that mail-in ballots are just a terrible idea, and so many ways that voting for the Dems is just weak and stupid. 

Edited November 23, 2024 by WestCanMan

[Radiorum]

Lol, because we know that right-wing men really value and respect opposing opinions. /s

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Lol, because we know that right-wing men really value and respect opposing opinions. /s

we've already heard all your leftist opinions

in light of that

we've decided that the best option is to crush you, without quarter nor mercy

war for all the marbles, slaughter your sacred cows and cook them as steaks on our grills

MAGA

 

[Nationalist]

My wife and I have been married 33 years. I don't ask her who she votes for because that's private. It's the very essence of freedom.

It's a concept Libbies cannot fathom nor brook.

Which is why they fail.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Nationalist

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Lol, because we know that right-wing men really value and respect opposing opinions. /s

All we can tell from your statement is that left-wing lunatics are hate filled bigoted people who don't understand how humans work. But honestly we knew that and so did most of America on voting nite. 

I have never in my life heard of any conservative (or any man for that matter) demand their wife vote a certain way and in fact  i have never even asked a girlfriend never mind my wife who they voted for, and one serious relationship i was in i knew the other party had different views and just never brought it up. 

Your ignorance and intolerance is showing.  Democrats think men WOULD be have this way because that's how they'd like THEIR men and women to behave -  to attack a spouse who didn't "toe the line".  SO they assume others do.  They don't. 

Sorry to burst your hatred echo chamber bubble kiddo. 

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

My wife and I have been marries 33 years. I don't ask her who she votes for because that's private. It's the very essence of freedom.

It's a concept Libbies cannot fathom nor brook.

Which is why they fail.

every single male I know thinks this way, and to be honest most of the people I know who lean to the left historically think this way.

But modern day die hard woke democrats who are so far to the left that Stalin looks like a capitalist absolutely would attack their spouse and destroy their family if they thought they didn't vote the way they should, so they naturally assume everyone else thinks the same.

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Lol, because we know that right-wing men really value and respect opposing opinions. /s

Just another example of how the left is filled with bigotry and hatred. It is only through amazing marketing that they've convinced so many that they are the party of love and tolerance.

Edited November 24, 2024 by gatomontes99

[Nationalist]

59 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Just another example of how the left is filled with bigotry and hatred. It is only through amazing marketing that they've convinced so many that they are the party of love and tolerance.

Love is the most powerful emotion. It bonds people. It conquers hatred. It is expressed in many ways. Sometimes it's expressed in uncomfortable ways. The scolding and spanking of a child for instance. Libbies tend to misunderstand that. They see punishment as a violent and unacceptable. Thus all too often, they produce spoiled brats.

Tolerance is a biproduct of love. Libbies like to toss about the word and claim they practice tolerance. But how many families have been torn apart by tolerant Libbies? How many Libbie women are advocating for divorce because men voted for Trump. Advocating for abstaining from sexual relations with men. Screaming at their cameras for TicToc. Is that tolerance? No. 

Libbies are given to hatred and intolerance. Yet Conservatives will generally defend their right to express their intolerance. Would the typical Libbie do the same?

Doubtful.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Nationalist

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

My wife and I have been married 33 years. I don't ask her who she votes for because that's private. It's the very essence of freedom.

It's a concept Libbies cannot fathom nor brook.

Which is why they fail.

Harris' suggestion is not for you. Duh

It is for the wives of men who insist on controlling them.

[CouchPotato]

I think it comes down to the fact that they can't fathom how someone would not like their ideas. There cannot be something possibly wrong with liberal/left policies. Therefore, there must be something wrong with people. If Kamala is leaking support among women, it can't be that some women made up their minds to vote for Trump. It has to be that conservative men are directing their stepford wives how to vote by force. If some blacks have moved to Trump, it can't be that there is something they feel Trump is offering them that Kamala isn't, it's that black men are being sexist. So, Obama has to lecture them.

And then there was the ad directed at men in general. There is no mention of any policy in the ad. There is no appeal to issues that men in general might find important. This is because Democrat policies cannot be the issue. It's men that are the problem. They are just scared to vote for Kamala. It's the only possible explanation. They need to see a bunch of guys saying they eat carburetors for breakfast telling them it's ok to vote for Harris.

When you point this out, they seem to overestimate how offended you are, and think they must have struck a nerve. But the truth is no one is the slightest bit offended. They just think it's really lame. People see these ads and are laughing at them.

Edited November 24, 2024 by CouchPotato

[CouchPotato]

49 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Harris' suggestion is not for you. Duh

It is for the wives of men who insist on controlling them.

So just for clarification here...

Do you think the Democrats put out this ad as sort of a nice public service message for women who happen to be in abusive relationships to let them know that, because their husbands aren't actually in the voting booth with them, they could vote for whoever they like without them knowing, because they would have never figured this out on their own?

or

Do you think the Democrats put out this ad because they weren't leading as much among women as usual and in their minds they actually think a major reason for this is that there is a widespread problem of conservative men telling their women who to vote for?

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, CouchPotato said:

So just for clarification here...

Do you think the Democrats put out this ad as sort of a nice public service message for women who happen to be in abusive relationships to let them know that, because their husbands aren't actually in the voting booth with them, they could vote for whoever they like without them knowing, because they would have never figured this out on their own?

or

Do you think the Democrats put out this ad because they weren't leading as much among women as usual and in their minds they actually think a major reason for this is that there is a widespread problem of conservative men telling their women who to vote for?

It is OBVIOUS that conservative men have a need to control their wives' behavior in most aspects. 

[CouchPotato]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

It is OBVIOUS that conservative men have a need to control their wives' behavior in most aspects. 

Really now?

Were they more controlling this year than ever?

Obama had 56% of women in his first term. 55% of women in his second. 54% of women voted for Hillary. 55% for Biden. 53% for Harris.

Trump made inroads among minority groups as well. Was someone forcing them to vote differently? Maybe they didn't realize they could secretly vote for Harris because the Democrats didn't make an ad informing them of this.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

It is OBVIOUS that conservative men have a need to control their wives' behavior in most aspects. 

It's obvious to a hate filled loser. you only think it's 'obvious' because you:

a) wish you had the balls to push your wife around instead of being a less-than-beta who only does what he's told

and 

b) you wish you could actually get a wife, but sadly are too repulsive so you're big mad jealous at those who can. 

Republicans don't need to control anybody. They don't control their women, they don't want to control anyone else. They want to be left to make their own choices, they treasure individual rights and will and most will never even ask their wife what they voted.

Democrats are so hate filled they simply can't understand this concept. They assume that all republicans tell their wives what to do and how to vote because that's what they would do if they had balls

 

[Radiorum]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

It is OBVIOUS that conservative men have a need to control their wives' behavior in most aspects. 

I think some of them must be like Jesse Watters, who likened voting for Harris to "having an affair."

 

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“If I found out Emma was going to the voting booth and pulling the lever for Harris, that’s the same thing as having an affair,” (Watters) said.

“That violates the sanctity of our marriage. What else is she keeping from me? What is she lying about?” he continued. “Why would she do that and vote Harris? Why would she say she was voting… If I caught her and she said, ‘I lied to you for the last four years.’”

“So you’d admit you’d intimidate…” Jeanine Pirro interrupted.

“It’s over, Emma!” Watters continued. “That would be D-Day!”

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jesse-watters-says-wife-voting-for-kamala-harris-is-like-having-an-affair/

[CouchPotato]

13 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I think some of them must be like Jesse Watters, who likened voting for Harris to "having an affair."

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jesse-watters-says-wife-voting-for-kamala-harris-is-like-having-an-affair/

Have you ever watched Jesse Watters?

Do you think him saying "It's over Emma! That would be D-Day" is a serious comment?

[Radiorum]

3 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

Have you ever watched Jesse Watters?

Do you think him saying "It's over Emma! That would be D-Day" is a serious comment?

You mean he doesn't mean what he says? Then, what is his purpose? What was his purpose when he said:

“(Harris is) going to get paralyzed in the Situation Room while the generals have their way with her.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/08/27/jesse-watters-kamala-harris/

 

[CouchPotato]

5 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You mean he doesn't mean what he says?

Have you ever watched Jesse Watters or The Five? They joke around a lot. Do you think he really thinks his wife voting for Kamala would violate the sanctity of marriage? Does the extremity of the language not give you a hint at all?

Imagine you heard someone say, "If I found out my wife is a Yankees fan, that's it. It's over Sue. That violates the sanctity of marriage." Would you think that person would seriously divorce her?

Edited November 24, 2024 by CouchPotato

[Radiorum]

1 minute ago, CouchPotato said:

Have you ever watched Jesse Watters or The Five? They joke around a lot. Do you think he really thinks his wife voting for Kamala would violate the sanctity of marriage? Does the extremity of the language not give you a hint at all?

So, his purpose is to entertain? It escapes me how his degrading "jokes" pass for entertainment.

He's got a large audience, and with that should come some responsibility.

I'll tell you his purpose - it is to influence, not to inform. He is a propagandist.

[CouchPotato]

3 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

So, his purpose is to entertain? It escapes me how his degrading "jokes" pass for entertainment.

He's got a large audience, and with that should come some responsibility.

They talk about political news but they shoot the breeze and joke like friends at a bar while doing so. It's a combination of entertainment and punditry. The jokes may not always be funny but once again what he said is no more degrading than saying, "If I found out so-and-so was Bruins fan, I'd blah blah. That's just utter sacrilege." If you think that is degrading perhaps you take life too seriously.

As for responsibility to his large audience, people who watch that show know exactly what it is about. It's five people sitting around discussing stuff and they aren't always serious.

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I'll tell you his purpose - it is to influence, not to inform.

Yeah, they are conservative pundits. It's not the news hour.

[gatomontes99]

The underlying message here is that women aren't strong enough to express their opinions around their husbands. That is how democrats see women.

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

You mean he doesn't mean what he says? Then, what is his purpose? What was his purpose when he said:

“(Harris is) going to get paralyzed in the Situation Room while the generals have their way with her.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/08/27/jesse-watters-kamala-harris/

 

 

Jesse Watters has the fairly unique gift of the ability to express serious points with a degree of humour.

The fact that you used that clip as to further a weak point just shows a extremely narrow point of view.

What a hateful bunch of jumped up never come downs the Democrats are.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

I think some of them must be like Jesse Watters, who likened voting for Harris to "having an affair."

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jesse-watters-says-wife-voting-for-kamala-harris-is-like-having-an-affair/

Jessie Waters tells a joke and Libbies lose their sh1t. Quelle suprise. These are the same Dodos who tried to kill comedy.

I'm watching CNN right now. Dana Bash is bashing Tulsi Gabbard. These whiney little losers will destroy anything for power. Comedy, truth, people...anything for power. They have become even more disgusting than before the election.

Libbies...you lost. You spent the last decade making sh1t up and attacking honorable people purely based on political desires. But the public has seen through your childish garbage and voted you out.

Now begins the clean-up. Many Libbies will be exposed as blatant liars and political hacks. THAT is something that scares the holy Hell outta Libbies.

Freedom means nothing to Libbies. Nor does honor, truth or respect. All they understand is hatred and power. But it's over Libbies. The clean-up has already begun.

Do enjoy the next 4 years.

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

Really now?

Always been. Conservative has always been a movement to the PAST. Some are still saying women shouldn't vote.

Conservatives are slow to change by definition

 

59 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Jessie Waters tells a joke and Libbies lose their sh1t. Quelle suprise. These are the same Dodos who tried to kill comedy.

I'm watching CNN right now. Dana Bash is bashing Tulsi Gabbard. These whiney little losers will destroy anything for power. Comedy, truth, people...anything for power. They have become even more disgusting than before the election.

Libbies...you lost. You spent the last decade making sh1t up and attacking honorable people purely based on political desires. But the public has seen through your childish garbage and voted you out.

Now begins the clean-up. Many Libbies will be exposed as blatant liars and political hacks. THAT is something that scares the holy Hell outta Libbies.

Freedom means nothing to Libbies. Nor does honor, truth or respect. All they understand is hatred and power. But it's over Libbies. The clean-up has already begun.

Do enjoy the next 4 years.

You're the one who is out of touch with reality terrified of progress, and clinging to the PAST.

[Nationalist]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Always been. Conservative has always been a movement to the PAST. Some are still saying women shouldn't vote.

Conservatives are slow to change by definition

 

You're the one who is out of touch with reality terrified of progress, and clinging to the PAST.

No. That's a very thin and dumb argument. I am all for progress that provides benefits. Not this destructive crap you want, that does nothing but cost us in so many way and produces nothing but suffering.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Nationalist

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

So, his purpose is to entertain? It escapes me how his degrading "jokes" pass for entertainment.

He's got a large audience, and with that should come some responsibility.

I'll tell you his purpose - it is to influence, not to inform. He is a propagandist.

I think a lot of things escape you.

But you do appear to have a real habit of twisting people's statements out of their intended context. Negatively for republicans and positively for democrats who you support.

America just sent a loud and clear message as to how they feel about people who do that. I doubt it'll be better received here. You might want to start thinking about that.