Do right wingers here really believe that Trump's appointees (Gaetz, RFK, & Gabbard) are actually QUALIFIED for those offices?

[Hodad]

Shockingly, the parade of unqualified clowns drags on. 

President-elect Camacho names professional wrestling entrepreneur Linda McMahon to lead the Department of Education.

 

[robosmith]

14 hours ago, ironstone said:

Seems to me that when Democrats appoint people, they lean heavily on identity politics and which boxes they check off while the Republicans lean much more towards qualifications.

Not to suggest that every Trump pick will turn out A+, but it's a better process than the Democrats.

Good call, since 5 of Trump's cabinet members from 2017 had to be fired due to major scandals.

Looks like he aiming to break that record now.

2 hours ago, Yakuda said:

Like obama bin laden when he became president? 

Obama was a US Senator and State legislator. Which is FAR MORE experience in government than Trump had. Duh

[robosmith]

49 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Is Joe Biden really the president of the United States right now?

What has Kamala ever done well since she has been in office? Point to a major success if you could...

1. How's world peace going?
2. How did the economy do?
3. Did Joe and Kamala bring the country together?
4. How's the US border?
5. Are there any more migrant gangs taking over apartment complexes in any new states, or was it merely in Texas and Colorado? 

You're correct to say that conservatives would be criticizing Kamala's picks, but let's be honest, all of Joe's picks sucked. 

He has trannies running the military and his transportation minister - a guy - went on maternity leave during the diesel shortage. His "border tsar" never even went to the border. His VP can't even participate in high-level talks because she breaks into irrational fits of laughter at the most inopportune times.

If you're being honest, Joe's presidency was a -7/10. We're just hoping to make it to Jan 30th without WWIII starting, and I'm not exaggerating. People are checking the news every morning now to see what new countries are being bombed, and what new countries are joining which wars. 

Your PRIORITIES for POTUS service MEAN NOTHING, Canuck.

[Yakuda]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Good call, since 5 of Trump's cabinet members from 2017 had to be fired due to major scandals.

Looks like he aiming to break that record now.

Obama was a US Senator and State legislator. Which is FAR MORE experience in government than Trump had. Duh

Trump was and is a CEO you dimwitted twit. 

[robosmith]

30 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

Tell us why he should release his taxes? 

1. Because he PROMISED he would. LIE 1.

2. To prove that his wealth was acquired legally and he paid his taxes

3. All previous POTUS for the last 50 years have met that requirement.

Why SHOULDN'T he release his taxes? Because YOU "trust" the pathological LIAR. 🤮

 

4 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

Trump was and is a CEO you dimwitted twit. 

You're the lDIOT pretending ^this is government experience. Duh

[ironstone]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

It's well known that Trump wanted to do this to Hilary Clinton in 2016, before he became President.

At the end of the day, he chose to not do it. You conveniently left that part out.

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

At the end of the day, he chose to not do it. You conveniently left that part out.

Both Sessions and Barr refused his orders to arrest Hillary. AKA it wasn't HIS CHOICE.

[Yakuda]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

1. Because he PROMISED he would. LIE 1.

2. To prove that his wealth was acquired legally and he paid his taxes

3. All previous POTUS for the last 50 years have met that requirement.

Why SHOULDN'T he release his taxes? Because YOU "trust" the pathological LIAR. 🤮

 

You're the lDIOT pretending ^this is government experience. Duh

Cite where he "promised". You're word is shlt.

Prove to who? 

What they've done the last 50 years is as meaningless as you 

It has nothing to do with who i trust. Not one one you maggots has ever provided a.validnresdon why you should have access to a candidates taxes. Maybe try to that. So far you're an utter failure. 

The president is the CEO you dimwitted donkey humping nitwit.

[robosmith]

22 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

Cite where he "promised". You're word is shlt.

It's YOUR WORD which is shit.

Trump vows to release his tax returns

Politico

https://www.politico.com › story › 2016/01 › donald-tr...

 

Jan 24, 2016 — Donald Trump says his team is working on releasing his income tax returns. “We're working on that now. I have big returns, as you know, and I have everything ...

 

 

Donald Trump's Changing Positions On Releasing His Taxes

Time Magazine

https://time.com › Politics › Donald Trump

 

Apr 15, 2019 — Donald Trump said he would release his tax returns. Then he said he'd do it after an audit. Now he says the public doesn't care.

 

 

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

Prove to who? 

The voters, dipshit

 

22 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

What they've done the last 50 years is as meaningless as you 

It's the REASON Trump PROMISED (and failed) to release his taxes. Duh

History of Presidents and Federal Income Tax

Investopedia

https://www.investopedia.com › history-of-presidents-a...

 

Since the 1970s, U.S. presidents have voluntarily released their tax filings. That convention ended with Donald Trump.

 

 

22 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

It has nothing to do with who i trust. Not one one you maggots has ever provided a.validnresdon why you should have access to a candidates taxes. Maybe try to that. So far you're an utter failure. 

The president is the CEO you dimwitted donkey humping nitwit.

Show where the Constitution calls POTUS "the CEO." Trump tried to claim in court that he wasn't even an officer, to keep his name on the CO ballot. Duh

Strike 3, you're OUT.

[Yakuda]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

It's YOUR WORD which is shit.

Trump vows to release his tax returns

Politico

https://www.politico.com › story › 2016/01 › donald-tr...

 

Jan 24, 2016 — Donald Trump says his team is working on releasing his income tax returns. “We're working on that now. I have big returns, as you know, and I have everything ...

 

 

Donald Trump's Changing Positions On Releasing His Taxes

Time Magazine

https://time.com › Politics › Donald Trump

 

Apr 15, 2019 — Donald Trump said he would release his tax returns. Then he said he'd do it after an audit. Now he says the public doesn't care.

 

 

 

 

 

The voters, dipshit

 

It's the REASON Trump PROMISED (and failed) to release his taxes. Duh

History of Presidents and Federal Income Tax

Investopedia

https://www.investopedia.com › history-of-presidents-a...

 

Since the 1970s, U.S. presidents have voluntarily released their tax filings. That convention ended with Donald Trump.

 

 

Show where the Constitution calls POTUS "the CEO." Trump tried to claim in court that he wasn't even an officer, to keep his name on the CO ballot. Duh

Strike 3, you're OUT.

Uh oh looks like someone has an emotional boo boo ^

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

It's well known that Trump wanted to do this to Hilary Clinton in 2016, before he became President.

and yet didn't when he took power because someone explained to him that that was a bad idea and not something we do

I kind of doubt that that explanation is going to work at this point   The democrats obviously thought he would never get back in so they could pick on him as much as they wanted. That may have turned out to be a mistake

[impartialobserver]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Is Joe Biden really the president of the United States right now?

What has Kamala ever done well since she has been in office? Point to a major success if you could...

1. How's world peace going?
2. How did the economy do?
3. Did Joe and Kamala bring the country together?
4. How's the US border?
5. Are there any more migrant gangs taking over apartment complexes in any new states, or was it merely in Texas and Colorado? 

You're correct to say that conservatives would be criticizing Kamala's picks, but let's be honest, all of Joe's picks sucked. 

He has trannies running the military and his transportation minister - a guy - went on maternity leave during the diesel shortage. His "border tsar" never even went to the border. His VP can't even participate in high-level talks because she breaks into irrational fits of laughter at the most inopportune times.

If you're being honest, Joe's presidency was a -7/10. We're just hoping to make it to Jan 30th without WWIII starting, and I'm not exaggerating. People are checking the news every morning now to see what new countries are being bombed, and what new countries are joining which wars. 

for once.. can you stay on topic. Very little of this ^^^ is even closely related to what I wrote. This is why as soon as I see your name, I look away and scroll down. The question could be 2 + 2 = ? and your response would be a page long diatribe about how liberals have destroyed xyz. The point is that politicos (which you are one of them) will complain no matter what. 

[WestCanMan]

34 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

for once.. can you stay on topic. Very little of this ^^^ is even closely related to what I wrote. This is why as soon as I see your name, I look away and scroll down. The question could be 2 + 2 = ? and your response would be a page long diatribe about how liberals have destroyed xyz. The point is that politicos (which you are one of them) will complain no matter what. 

No, a proper response just takes a bit of context right now.

The fact is that the Demis have ZERO credibility when it comes to questioning cabinet appointments. 

This whole section is 100% in line with your post, you just lack the attention span to put it all together:

• You're correct to say that conservatives would be criticizing Kamala's picks, but let's be honest, all of Joe's picks sucked. 

  He has trannies running the military and his transportation minister - a guy - went on maternity leave during the diesel shortage. His "border tsar" never even went to the border. His VP can't even participate in high-level talks because she breaks into irrational fits of laughter at the most inopportune times.

  If you're being honest, Joe's presidency was a -7/10. We're just hoping to make it to Jan 30th without WWIII starting, and I'm not exaggerating. People are checking the news every morning now to see what new countries are being bombed, and what new countries are joining which wars. 

So there's a post about "how much credibility the demis have when it comes time to criticize cabinet appointments". 

[impartialobserver]

16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

No, a proper response just takes a bit of context right now.

The fact is that the Demis have ZERO credibility when it comes to questioning cabinet appointments. 

This whole section is 100% in line with your post, you just lack the attention span to put it all together:

• You're correct to say that conservatives would be criticizing Kamala's picks, but let's be honest, all of Joe's picks sucked. 

  He has trannies running the military and his transportation minister - a guy - went on maternity leave during the diesel shortage. His "border tsar" never even went to the border. His VP can't even participate in high-level talks because she breaks into irrational fits of laughter at the most inopportune times.

  If you're being honest, Joe's presidency was a -7/10. We're just hoping to make it to Jan 30th without WWIII starting, and I'm not exaggerating. People are checking the news every morning now to see what new countries are being bombed, and what new countries are joining which wars. 

So there's a post about "how much credibility the demis have when it comes time to criticize cabinet appointments". 

A simple knowledge of human nature tells you that group x is going to appoint those that align with them. That automatically makes those who do not align with them complain. Its simply inevitable. Each cycle, the same story plays out and folks like you pretend that "this time is different" when you know it is not. 

[WestCanMan]

Just now, impartialobserver said:

A simple knowledge of human nature tells you that group x is going to appoint those that align with them. That automatically makes those who do not align with them complain. Its simply inevitable. Each cycle, the same story plays out and folks like you pretend that "this time is different" when you know it is not. 

If the last administration wasn't a total failure by every reasonable standard then Dems might have some credibility on this issue.

Makes sense, right?

"We did a good job of this - as you can clearly see by the roaring economy, secure borders and global peace - and we don't think you guys are doing well at all." That type of comment would hold some water, but the truth is that they can't say anything of the sort because the Dems' appointments were proven to be awful: the current administration failed miserably by every important metric.

Trump's picks in 2017 left the border far more secure, the economy was firing on all cylinders, global peace rose by more than at any other point in 60 years, etc. The 2024 GOP picks also seem reasonable. 

That's the stuff of debate, not merely "Waaaah, we don't like your picks", which is what you're insinuating. 

[BeaverFever]

On 11/14/2024 at 11:39 PM, robosmith said:

They have one thing in common: ZERO experience of management at that level, and ZERO professional knowledge of those complex fields.

Let me just answer the question about whether right wingers actually believe Trump’s absurd quack appointments are qualified. It’s like asking if they believe all the fake and outrageous claims they make like Obama birtherism or immigrants eating people’s pets. 
 

The answer is they don’t care if they’re qualified. Just like they don’t CARE if the things Trump and Tucker Carlson tell them to believe are true. It’s not even something they stop to think about, truth and facts and qualifications are 100% irrelevant to them   Its not like they ever moderate their view or stop repeating lies when they learn they’ve untrue, nor would they change their opinion of a trump appointee if they learned his qualifications were insufficient. Hell, so many Trump supporters have never achieved any qualifications of their own why would they care about someone else’s?

Undying loyalty to Trump is literally all that matters to these people.  Like cult follower worshipping their  cult leader or faithful slaves grovelling before their  master, praising Trump no matter what and agreeing with anything he says or does is 100% of their cognitive process if you can even call it that   

 

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Let me just answer the question about whether right wingers actually believe Trump’s absurd quack appointments are qualified.

" Let me just lie about what the other side thinks and pretend i have a clue while disparaging political rivals because my side is driven entirely by hatred and spite"   

LOL. 

Here's the fun fact. Well some enjoy talking about it the vast majority don't give a flying fig. They're not the president, they're not pretending to be qualified to be president, they're not pretending they were elected to be president.

What they are qualified to measure is results. And that's what they'll be wanting to see. What kind of results is he going to get? If the results are good they really couldn't care a Flying Fig whether you think someone is or isn't qualified or whether they do. The results speak for themselves. On the other hand if the results are bad it won't matter how experienced or inexperienced they are, chances are trump will be in trouble.

The important thing is people will hold him to account so if he's making bad picks that lead to bad results that's going to be on him

Now I realize that you're going to say the results are bad no matter what the results are. Every single person could become a multi-millionaire, crime could drop to zero, inflation could be the lowest it's been in history and jobs the highest and he could have a note from Jesus Christ that says he's the best thing since sliced bread and you would still find fault

. But those who are more honest and less biased will make a decision as to whether or not they feel his Results are acceptable.

[BeaverFever]

8 hours ago, Yakuda said:

Cite where he "promised". You're word is shlt.

Prove to who? 

What they've done the last 50 years is as meaningless as you 

It has nothing to do with who i trust. Not one one you maggots has ever provided a.validnresdon why you should have access to a candidates taxes. Maybe try to that. So far you're an utter failure. 

The president is the CEO you dimwitted donkey humping nitwit.

He promised publicly many times and the reasons why candidates have released their returns has been provided  If you can’t understand why someone wanting to be the most powerful man in the world shouldn’t have to demonstrate that he’s not a tax cheat or a crook or deeply in debt then that says more about you than anything.  Hell there are corporations that require CEOs and senior executives to provide their tax returns and other financial documents to the Board  

 

And yet he demanded Obama’s birth certificate even though no president has ever had to provide it to the public. 
 

 

In September 2016, Donald J. Trump stood on the debate stage as a presidential candidate and addressed a question that had dogged him on the campaign trail: When would he release his tax return?

“I’m under a routine audit, and it’ll be released,” Mr. Trump said. “And as soon as the audit is finished, it will be released.”

Nearly four years later, the White House says the I.R.S. is still at it.

“His taxes are under audit, and when they’re no longer under audit he will release them,” Kayleigh McEnany, the White House press secretary, told reporters on Thursday.

In fact, every sitting president’s returns are audited as a matter of routine, and the I.R.S. has long said that nothing prevents an individual from making tax returns public while an audit is underway. Every president since Jimmy Carter has voluntarily released his returns.

So at this point, no one is expecting to see the president’s tax returns anytime soon, even though the Supreme Court issued a major rulingon Thursday that cleared the way for New York prosecutors to seek them. But there will be further skirmishing in the lower courts, and there is little chance of a final decision before the next election.

The Early Promises

Mr. Trump has promised to release his tax returns under varying conditions for nearly a decade.

In 2011, he began appearing on television to question whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States — spreading a lie that he has never fully apologized for — and suggesting that he would release his returns when Mr. Obama released his birth certificate.

“Maybe I’m going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate,” he said in an interview with ABC in April 2011. “I’d love to give my tax returns. I may tie my tax returns into Obama’s birth certificate.”

Days after that interview, Mr. Obama released his long-form birth certificate.

Mr. Trump did not keep his end of the deal. In 2014, an Irish journalist pointed out that he had never released his tax returns, even though he had coerced Mr. Obama into releasing his birth certificate. In that interview, Mr. Trump then added a new qualifier: He would release them if he ran for president.

“If I decide to run for office, I’ll produce my tax returns, absolutely,” he said during a visit to Ireland, where he promoted his golf club in Doonbeg. “And I would love to do that.”

The Audit

By the time Mr. Trump was running for president in 2016, he had adopted the audit as the reason he could not release his taxes. That spring, his lawyer Sheri A. Dillon released a letter that claimed Mr. Trump’s tax returns had been under “continuous examination” by the I.R.S. since 2002, and that the audit for his tax returns since 2009 was ongoing.

Steven M. Rosenthal, a senior fellow at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, said in an interview that it could be normal for an audit for a taxpayer like Mr. Trump to take anywhere from six to eight years for each year filed. He called Ms. Dillon’s letter “on the mark” and said that presidents were automatically audited each year while in office. But he said there was no legal reason for Mr. Trump to hold back his tax returns.

“The excuse that he’s under audit is a non-excuse,” Mr. Rosenthal said. “He’s always under audit.”

After Mr. Trump won the election, he added another reason beyond the audit for why he was withholding his returns. In May 2017, he told The Economist that only journalists cared about his tax returns, and that he might not release them until he left office.

“Maybe I’ll release them after I’m finished because I’m very proud of them actually,” Mr. Trump said. “I did a good job.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/us/politics/trump-taxes.html

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10 hours ago, Yakuda said:

Trump was and is a CEO you dimwitted twit. 

Trump went bankrupt several times, and used his fathers fortune that he squandered. 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Trump went bankrupt several times, and used his fathers fortune that he squandered. 

If he used his father's fortune but then went bankrupt, doesn't that mean that the wealthy's accumulated now wasn't from what he inherited? I mean all of that wealth would be gone in the bankruptcies right?

[BeaverFever]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

" Let me just lie about what the other side thinks and pretend i have a clue while disparaging political rivals because my side is driven entirely by hatred and spite"   

LOL. 

Here's the fun fact. Well some enjoy talking about it the vast majority don't give a flying fig. They're not the president, they're not pretending to be qualified to be president, they're not pretending they were elected to be president.

What they are qualified to measure is results. And that's what they'll be wanting to see. What kind of results is he going to get? If the results are good they really couldn't care a Flying Fig whether you think someone is or isn't qualified or whether they do.

I didn’t lie and your ridiculous diatribe proves me right.  You think the most powerful jobs in the country require no formal skills or qualifications and so any old boob off the street can do it as ling as they “measure results” like they’re a scorekeeper at a beer league hockey game? Your ignorance is astounding. These people will be responsible for running massive departments that are larger than most corporations and setting policies that affect millions of people’s everyday lives. 
 

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The results speak for themselves. On the other hand if the results are bad it won't matter how experienced or inexperienced they are, chances are trump will be in trouble.

The important thing is people will hold him to account so if he's making bad picks that lead to bad results that's going to be on him

LOL Trump supporters will never hold Trump accountable for anything. No matter how bad he does you’ll make excuses for him and claim that its not something a president can control, or that the Dems did it worse, or that somehow its a delayed reaction to something Biden dis before he left office and so on. 
 

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Now I realize that you're going to say the results are bad no matter what the results are. Every single person could become a multi-millionaire, crime could drop to zero, inflation could be the lowest it's been in history and jobs the highest and he could have a note from Jesus Christ that says he's the best thing since sliced bread and you would still find fault

No that’s what Trump did in 2016 when Obama was president, falsely claiming that the very positive numbers on economy and crime were bad when in fact they were quite good then as soon as he took office he took credit for the very same numbers.  And let’s be clear the US economic figures right now are pretty good even though Trump says otherwise. Unemployment is low, inflation is within the target range,US economy has seen strong growth, significantly outpacing all peer nations. As soon as Trump takes office he will start crowing about those exact same numbers he inherited from Biden and he will claim that he caused them. 

[NAME REMOVED]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

If he used his father's fortune but then went bankrupt, doesn't that mean that the wealthy's accumulated now wasn't from what he inherited? I mean all of that wealth would be gone in the bankruptcies right?

That is correct. He was bailed out by Russian oligarchs in the early 2000s.

Trump then made hundreds of millions when he was President, by doing shady deals, most notably with Saudi Arabia. 

 

Edited November 21, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

That is correct. He was bailed out by Russian oligarchs in the early 2000s.

Reading up on it it doesn't look like he was bailed out at all. It looks like he was recovering but couldn't get enough money to do much and the American Banks wouldn't touch him and he went around the world looking for investors. Looks like a couple of german banks invested in them and then at some point later some Russian businessman agreed to invest in some of his ideas or lend him money. And even the amount of their involvement is unknown, but it would appear that they profited from the ventures.

So what you're saying is he went out and found somebody to invest in his ideas, I managed to succeed and became rich. Which is pretty much the same as every wealthy person out there.

So he is a self-made billionaire and his father's money didn't really help. And he was so before the election in 2016.

So making a claim that this was somehow his father's money doesn't seem like it's very accurate

[WestCanMan]

28 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Let me just answer the question about whether right wingers actually believe Trump’s absurd quack appointments are qualified. 

A great man once said: "You were hoping for Kamala/Walz to end up running the entire country, dummy. You just watched Biden mumble, stumble and bumble his way through 4 brain-addled years of fake presidency with nary a complaint. Now you're worried about Tulsi's ability to merely manage one aspect of the gov't? 🤣 You should just keep your mouth shut and make people guess how stupid you are."

Honestly, dude, look around the world at all of the burgeoning wars that started under Biden, and compare that to a world where Trump crushed islamic state and then got relations normalized between Israel and a bunch of Arab states. 

Look at how the economy and take-home pay grew under Trump, and how inflation and hardship grew under Biden. 

Look at how few illegals crossed under Trump, and how the floodgates opened under Biden.

Look at how much hatred and vitriol Biden spewed against Trump and the 45% of the country that is GOP, and how little Trump has insulted Kamala and the fascist loser mor0ns that voted for her (I said that Trump was nice to that rabble, I never pretended to be as polite myself).

It's absurd to try to pretend that Biden was anything but an abject failure or that Trump hasn't been - by far - the better man, and it's unclear just how Kamala would be any better than Joe. We have no reason to believe that she would.

Of course a non-sycophant like Kennedy is the right kind of person to do what he was appointed for, but it's pretty bold for a Kennedy to take on big pharma and the toxic food lobby like that. 

And who would Kamala appoint if she won? OMG, Joy Reid would probably be the US Ambassador to the UN ffs. Ru Paul would be the Secretary of Defence. Farrakhan would be the Minister of Education. 

 

[BeaverFever]

11 hours ago, Hodad said:

Shockingly, the parade of unqualified clowns drags on. 

President-elect Camacho names professional wrestling entrepreneur Linda McMahon to lead the Department of Education.

 

It’s like not only is picking unqualified people he’s purposely choosing the least qualified people possible. Just to troll the libs. 
 

He wants total control and obedience from his appointees so he doesn’t even want people with ties to the Republican Party. And by choosing unqualified people who would otherwise have absolutely no hope of ever holding such a position of authority without his favour means they will be obedient and servile. Or so he hopes.