Project 2025

[CdnFox]

41 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Yes, Trump did quite well under his first term.

Well... well anyway  

 

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Except for the being the only President in history to have a net job loss

You mean except covid happened? Sure.  That's pretty honest right     

 

Except for the being the President  to have a record deficit

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Except his pandemic response was by far, the worst out of all first World countries

Actually it was better than most.  When you take away the insane number of early deaths in new york due to transit etc that he wasn't responsible for the covid death rate was way down and his project lightspeed gave us the vaccines. 

Density Is New York City’s Big ‘Enemy’ in the Coronavirus Fight - The New York Times

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Except his handling of the pandemic led to over 1,000,000 deaths.

Except that's an out and out lie.  I mean there were only 1,200,000  "covid" deaths in the entire us, so you're saying trump is basically responsible for anyone who died of covid. 🙄🙄🙄  

And many of those didn't even die from it, they just had it and died of something else 

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Aside from that, he did a great job....lol. 

So you mean aside from the parts you lied about? 

Agreed   As you say, he was pretty good  

 

[CouchPotato]

11 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Why do you post about issues you ahve not even bothered to research? 

Because I don't feel the need to read a thousand page document Trump has disavowed. I can make an educated guess though that a thousand page mandate written by conservatives would contain a lot of ideas that are popular among conservatives as a whole and some that are popular among smaller groups of conservatives . There was supposed to be something like 100 conservative groups who contributed to Project 2025. You claim to have read it. While, I doubt that is true, it is readily available online. It's not some secretive document.

Do you really think Trump plans to ban porn?

Edited November 17, 2024 by CouchPotato

[eyeball]

13 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

Do you really think Trump plans to ban porn?

Trump is just a vehicle who could certainly start the ball rolling in the direction Project 25 points.

The right wing isn't a place it's a direction and look where following it has taken things so far. It's not the destination it's the journey.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Trump is just a vehicle who could certainly start the ball rolling in the direction Project 25 points.

The right wing isn't a place it's a direction and look where following it has taken things so far. It's not the destination it's the journey.

More traits stupidity from the loser whose too cowardly to stand by his own comments.

Right wing isn't a direction or a destination or anything like that. It's just a political philosophy which believes in smaller government, more local control, personal freedom, responsibility and personal opportunity and that the fundimental purpose and duty of a sovereign nation is to safeguard that. That's it. 

But of course for the left politics IS a destination. Their so called utopia where everyone thinks the same and obeys a central authority, and where nobody owns anything and they like it 

[CouchPotato]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

The right wing isn't a place it's a direction.

The right direction.

[gatomontes99]

Here's the thing about Project 2025. It was done by a conservative think tank. So it contains some things that conservatives like. But it is done by a think tank, so it has some things not many support.

The left will use the mundane conservative things to say "see they support that and the radical thing."

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

The left will use the mundane conservative things to say "see they support that and the radical thing."

If you mean the way conservatives use mundane lefty things to say "see they support Marx, Hitler and Beelzebub" then no, the left doesn't do that at all.  You're just projecting.

The thing about 2025 is that the Republican Party probably realizes this will be their last chance to get things...right.  The base is in no mood for seducing the canine - they expect to be able to say 'my life is more right-wing and conservative today than it was 2 years ago'...3 years at best.

If not they'll be looking for something even more hard-boiled.

[robosmith]

On 11/16/2024 at 10:04 AM, DUI_Offender said:

Project 2025's creator is 'ecstatic' over Trump's terrible cabinet picks

 

Drew Angerer/Getty Images

As the rest of the world scratches their heads at Trump's bizarre and unqualified cabinet picks, Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, said that he is "ecstatic."

Roberts told right-wing extremist host Steve Gruber that the president-elect's choices are "sending signals that you better go back if you're here illegally."

"Honestly, I’m ecstatic,” Roberts said. “I mean, this is exceeding our expectations and our expectations were high because President-elect Trump, of course, has a proven record."

For those who aren't MAGA loyalists, Trump's appointments have been baffling. He chose anti-vaccine Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as secretary of Health and Human Services, who has a long history of embracing conspiracy theories, and has been rebuked by his famous family. Kennedy believes, among many other falsehoods, that the environment turns children transgender (it doesn't), that vaccines cause autism (they don't), and that HIV does not cause AIDS (it does).

Trump has appointed Matt Gaetz to Attorney General, who has been the subject of an investigation by the House Ethics Committee over claims he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old, who he allegedly paid to travel with him. Gaetz has also been accused of paying a minor girl for sex.

Trump's pick for Secretary of Defense, Fox News host Pete Hegseth, opposes women and transgender people in combat roles, and admitted to not washing his hands because he doesn't believe in germs.

"I do have to say my favorite, which would surprise no one including the President-elect, [is] Tom Homan, our visiting fellow at The Heritage Foundation, as border czar, who's already just sending signals that you better go back if you're here illegally," Roberts continued. "But all of the names that you mentioned and then some that are rumored to be named in the next couple of days, this has the making of one of the best cabinets in modern American history and that is fitting because there is a lot of work ahead."

Roberts' organization, the Heritage Foundation, has a long history of opposing LGBTQ+ rights, as well as fighting against marriage equality, protections for LGBTQ+ workers, and healthcare for transgender youth. The conservative think-tank is also the source of Project 2025, the over 900-page policy blueprint for a second Trump administration that includes dismantling LGBTQ+ rights, banning abortion, and implementing loyalty tests for government employees.

Roberts recently said on Bloomberg Podcasts' Balance of Power that "because the work of Project 2025 represents the conservative movement, it would be very difficult for anybody to implement policies on education, on the border, on taxation, without at least consulting those ideas and people."

Certainly NOT baffling. It is clear that Trump is trying to destroy the DoJ, HHS, and Intelligence.

He would have great difficulty firing every one he wants to fire, but appointing simpletons to leadership will prompt many serious professionals to resign rather than work for FOOLS. 🤮

[CdnFox]

40 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Certainly NOT baffling. It is clear that Trump is trying to destroy the DoJ, HHS, and Intelligence.

He would have great difficulty firing every one he wants to fire, but appointing simpletons to leadership will prompt many serious professionals to resign rather than work for FOOLS. 🤮

It's only clear to the blind

[Radiorum]

I wouldn’t take Trump’s disavowal of Project 2025 as proof that he intends to ignore it. That depends on accepting Trump’s word, and his word is worthless.

The slide into autocracy always begins with lies, and Trump has made lies his MO. For anyone who wishes to understand the depth of his willingness to use lies to maintain power, it’s recommended that you read Jack Smith’s immunity filing in the case of The United States of America v. Donald J. Trump. (It is easily found online at several sites, but I hesitate to post links as a new member.)

I have read the entire 165-page filing. It preserves Trump’s words and deeds surrounding his attempt to illegally overturn the 2020 election, an important document for future historians.

[gatomontes99]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

If you mean the way conservatives use mundane lefty things to say "see they support Marx, Hitler and Beelzebub" then no, the left doesn't do that at all.  You're just projecting.

The thing about 2025 is that the Republican Party probably realizes this will be their last chance to get things...right.  The base is in no mood for seducing the canine - they expect to be able to say 'my life is more right-wing and conservative today than it was 2 years ago'...3 years at best.

If not they'll be looking for something even more hard-boiled.

You didn't actually refute anything I said. All you did was report to attacks and speculation.

[West]

1. Trump has said he's not going to implement Project 2025

2. There are some good ideas in there. I hope he implements project 2025

[Deluge]

On 11/7/2024 at 6:05 PM, DUI_Offender said:

What is Project 2025"

Project 2025, also known as the 2025 Presidential Transition Project,^[5] is a political initiative published by the American conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation in 2023. The project aims to promote conservative and right-wing policies to reshape the federal government of the United States and consolidate executive power after Donald Trump is inaugurated into office following the 2024 presidential election.

 

Project 2025 is the ninth iteration of the Mandate for Leadership series, published since 1981. The project asserts a controversial interpretation of the unitary executive theory, according to which the entire executive branch is under the complete control of the U.S. president. It proposes reclassifying tens of thousands of federal civil service workers as political appointees in order to replace them with people loyal to the president.^[12] Proponents of the project argue it would dismantle what they view as a vast, unaccountable, and mostly liberal governmental bureaucracy.^[13] The project also seeks to infuse the government and society with conservative Christian values.^] Critics have characterised Project 2025 as an authoritarian, Christian nationalist plan to steer the U.S. toward autocracy. Legal experts have said it would undermine the rule of law,^[19] separation of powers,^[7] separation of church and state, and civil liberties.

 

Project 2025 envisions sweeping changes to economic and social policies and the federal government and its agencies. The plan proposes taking partisan control of the Department of Justice (DOJ), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Department of Commerce, Federal Communications Commission (FCC), and Federal Trade Commission (FTC), dismantling the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and abolishing the Department of Education, whose programs would be transferred or terminated.

 

It calls for making the National Institutes of Health (NIH) less independent, stopping it from funding research with embryonic stem cells, and reducing environmental and climate change regulations to favor fossil fuels. The blueprint seeks to institute tax cuts, but its writers disagree on protectionism. The project seeks to cut Medicare and Medicaid,^[ and urges the government to explicitly reject abortion as health care. It seeks to eliminate coverage of emergency contraception and use the Comstock Act to prosecute those who send and receive contraceptives and abortion pills. 

 

It proposes criminalising pornography and imprisoning those who produce it, removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs while having the DOJ prosecute "anti-white racism" instead. The project recommends the arrest, detention, and mass deportation of illegal immigrants living in the U.S. It proposes deploying the military for domestic law enforcement. It promotes capital punishment and the speedy "finality" of those sentences. 

This plan is a modern day equivalent to the 11935 Nuremberg Laws in Germany. 

Hey, you a$$holes are going to try to install a shadow government during Trump's presidency, and you're crying about Project 2025? You brought this on yourselves. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, West said:

1. Trump has said he's not going to implement Project 2025

2. There are some good ideas in there. I hope he implements project 2025

He's never even going to read it. It's a thousand pages long for god's sake, they'll be lucky if he gets through the dedication on the first page.

Now anything that large is going to have so many things in it that I'm sure that without realizing it he'll do something that is in that document at some point.

And at that point the left is going to scream about that being proof that the entire document was his plan all along. That's how these lunatics work.

But I don't think trump has much interest in social politics or culture wars. I think he wants to go get the people that came after him when he wasn't president, I think he wants to make the economy solid, I think he wants to sort out some issues in foreign policy including the ongoing wars.

He's only got 4 years and probably only two of those where he's got a majority in the house and the senate at the same time.

[Michael Hardner]

I read somewhere that the FCC nominee was one of the project 25 authors. I thought Trump didn't know these people?

Edited November 18, 2024 by Michael Hardner

[gatomontes99]

You know what? Fùck it. Yeah. We are doing all of it and we are going to make it mandatory that your children smoke cigarettes. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. There is nothing you can do. So bìtch and wine and drink your chai latte while crying Nazi and fascist and racist and all that other b.s. You are inconsequential. You live in my world now.

[gatomontes99]

I tried reasoning with them, but you just can't.

[Deluge]

On 11/7/2024 at 6:05 PM, DUI_Offender said:

What is Project 2025"

Project 2025, also known as the 2025 Presidential Transition Project,^[5] is a political initiative published by the American conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation in 2023. The project aims to promote conservative and right-wing policies to reshape the federal government of the United States and consolidate executive power after Donald Trump is inaugurated into office following the 2024 presidential election.

 

Project 2025 is the ninth iteration of the Mandate for Leadership series, published since 1981. The project asserts a controversial interpretation of the unitary executive theory, according to which the entire executive branch is under the complete control of the U.S. president. It proposes reclassifying tens of thousands of federal civil service workers as political appointees in order to replace them with people loyal to the president.^[12] Proponents of the project argue it would dismantle what they view as a vast, unaccountable, and mostly liberal governmental bureaucracy.^[13] The project also seeks to infuse the government and society with conservative Christian values.^] Critics have characterised Project 2025 as an authoritarian, Christian nationalist plan to steer the U.S. toward autocracy. Legal experts have said it would undermine the rule of law,^[19] separation of powers,^[7] separation of church and state, and civil liberties.

 

Project 2025 envisions sweeping changes to economic and social policies and the federal government and its agencies. The plan proposes taking partisan control of the Department of Justice (DOJ), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Department of Commerce, Federal Communications Commission (FCC), and Federal Trade Commission (FTC), dismantling the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and abolishing the Department of Education, whose programs would be transferred or terminated.

 

It calls for making the National Institutes of Health (NIH) less independent, stopping it from funding research with embryonic stem cells, and reducing environmental and climate change regulations to favor fossil fuels. The blueprint seeks to institute tax cuts, but its writers disagree on protectionism. The project seeks to cut Medicare and Medicaid,^[ and urges the government to explicitly reject abortion as health care. It seeks to eliminate coverage of emergency contraception and use the Comstock Act to prosecute those who send and receive contraceptives and abortion pills. 

 

It proposes criminalising pornography and imprisoning those who produce it, removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs while having the DOJ prosecute "anti-white racism" instead. The project recommends the arrest, detention, and mass deportation of illegal immigrants living in the U.S. It proposes deploying the military for domestic law enforcement. It promotes capital punishment and the speedy "finality" of those sentences. 

This plan is a modern day equivalent to the 11935 Nuremberg Laws in Germany. 

Project 2025 looks pretty good to me, plus you guys hate it, so that makes it even more appealing.  

Edited November 18, 2024 by Deluge

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I read somewhere that the FCC nominee was one of the project 25 authors. I thought Trump didn't know these people?

Trump has never said he didn't know these people. It's always been known that some of the architects worked with trump. what trump said is he had nothing to do with the preparation of the document, had never read the document, and had no interest in the document or making it his policy.

The truth wasn't good enough for you I take it?  

[Black Dog]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I read somewhere that the FCC nominee was one of the project 25 authors. I thought Trump didn't know these people?

Brendan Carr wrote the FCC chapter in ‘Project 2025.’ Now he’s Trump’s pick for the agency

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

I tried reasoning with them, but you just can't.

You can't even reason with yourself, twinklover99.

[Michael Hardner]

23 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Brendan Carr wrote the FCC chapter in ‘Project 2025.’ Now he’s Trump’s pick for the agency

It's kind of a strange thing to imagine what America will look like when mainstream media is only conservative and the government doesn't Grant licenses to opposing views. 

Strange but not interesting.  They asked for this.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's kind of a strange thing to imagine what America will look like when mainstream media is only conservative and the government doesn't Grant licenses to opposing views. 

Strange but not interesting.  They asked for this.

It's easy to imagine. It's just the exact opposite of what we have now.

So as yea sow so shall yea reap. 

[Black Dog]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It's easy to imagine. It's just the exact opposite of what we have now.

What makes this place and its conservative goon squad so fascinating is how it serves as a glimpse into a completely alternate reality that so many of you dummies live in.

[gatomontes99]

26 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

What makes this place and its conservative goon squad so fascinating is how it serves as a glimpse into a completely alternate reality that so many of you dummies live in.

Aka actual reality.

[Black Dog]

10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Aka actual reality.

No, there's no reality in which the MSM has a string left wing bias no matter what your echo chamber tells you twinklover99.