User Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 12 minutes ago, Black Dog said: lmao, pulling Ukraine funding has been the Republican Party's stated policy preference for ages. Trump himself has refused to commit to maintaining support. Just what the hell do you think is gonna happen here? So... you can't tell us what this promise was you said he made? 5 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Again, if the GOP gets its wish and pulls aid from Ukraine, why would Russia settle for the eastern bits instead of the whole damn thing? The point of this invasion was to end Ukraine's existence as a sovereign state, no reason to think that's changed. But again, you're a Putin dickrider so that's a great outcome for you. What is this wish you speak of? Can you provide some details of where it is outlined as you indicate? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Black Dog Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, User said: So... you can't tell us what this promise was you said he made? https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia-ukraine-war-un-election-a78ecb843af452b8dda1d52d137ca893 Not sure how he can do that without simply surrendering Ukraine. 1 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
User Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Black Dog said: https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia-ukraine-war-un-election-a78ecb843af452b8dda1d52d137ca893 Not sure how he can do that without simply surrendering Ukraine. So, no. You can't. So, were you just making crap up then? Edited November 6, 2024 by User Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Black Dog Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 6 minutes ago, User said: So, no. You can't. So, were you just making crap up then? I laid it out for you. The GOP wants to end aid to Ukraine. Trump is pals with Putin and said he will end the war. How you can't put two and two together here is simply shocking, but if you were smart you wouldn't be a Trump supporter. 1 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Nationalist Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 30 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Your reading comprehension is as shitty as your critical thinking skills if you think that's what that thread was about. Again, if the GOP gets its wish and pulls aid from Ukraine, why would Russia settle for the eastern bits instead of the whole damn thing? The point of this invasion was to end Ukraine's existence as a sovereign state, no reason to think that's changed. But again, you're a Putin dickrider so that's a great outcome for you. Lol...your insults and accusations mean jack...Jack. Now...you've had your bath in blood...it's time for the adults to put this right. 1 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Black Dog Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Lol...your insults and accusations mean jack...Jack. Now...you've had your bath in blood...it's time for the adults to put this right. Yes we know your preference is to end the existence of Ukraine as a sovereign democracy. 1 1 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
User Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 13 minutes ago, Black Dog said: I laid it out for you. The GOP wants to end aid to Ukraine. Trump is pals with Putin and said he will end the war. How you can't put two and two together here is simply shocking, but if you were smart you wouldn't be a Trump supporter. You did not lay anything out for me. This is not some math problem. You made an assertion, you can't back it up. Just be honest for once in your life. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
CdnFox Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 7 minutes ago, Black Dog said: https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia-ukraine-war-un-election-a78ecb843af452b8dda1d52d137ca893 Not sure how he can do that without simply surrendering Ukraine. Well if you nuked both sides that would put it into it in less than a day really Saying he'll do it in the day is obviously hyperbole. And actually he made that statement quite some time ago and said if he was president he would end it in a day. More recently he has said that he would end it before he took power in January. That's more realistic but probably also optimistic. But I think the way that you end it is you walk in you sit both of them down more or less and you say "Vlad, we're going to let you keep this land and this land and that land and that's it and you'll be happy with it and you don't get to talk about whether or not Ukraine joins NATO or whatever. If that's not acceptable I'll have troops on the ground tomorrow And we'll see how tough you really are. Then he turns to zielinsky And says you will accept this and we will rebuild your country and re-arm you so that nobody can ever touch you again, or we will cut you off entirely and you will starve and Russia will take you over. That's probably what he's looking for. And while he might not be able to truly end the war he probably can at least arrange a ceasefire by that point based on negotiating the details of something like that. Russia isn't going to get the ukraine, and zelensky isn't going to defeat russia. Both sides will have to give up what they want and find a path to end this. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 1 minute ago, User said: You did not lay anything out for me. This is not some math problem. You made an assertion, you can't back it up. Just be honest for once in your life. I guess it's easier for you to avoid the issue than deal with the cognitive dissonance involved with supporting a party that wants to hand Ukraine to Russia. 2 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
CdnFox Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 8 minutes ago, Black Dog said: I guess it's easier for you to avoid the issue than deal with the cognitive dissonance involved with supporting a party that wants to hand Ukraine to Russia. Jeeezuz CHRIST, that is NOT how 'cognative dissonance' is used - This is Robosmith's fault entirely, he's been misusing it entirely for months now, do NOT let him rub off on you! Next you'll be calling people a dunning-kruger and then we'll have to have you euthanized for your own good Quote
Nationalist Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 18 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Yes we know your preference is to end the existence of Ukraine as a sovereign democracy. You know nothing of the sort pup. But I know something. Kamala lost and now your brave support of other people dieing, is gonna end. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Black Dog Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: You know nothing of the sort pup. You literally advertise that fact here. Quote But I know something. Kamala lost and now your brave support of other people dieing, is gonna end. Is your Russian mail order bride making you type this dumb shit? Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
CdnFox Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: You literally advertise that fact here. Is your Russian mail order bride making you type this dumb shit? It's going to be 4 years bud, pace yourself. You don't want to have an aneurism in the first week 1 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Black Dog said: You literally advertise that fact here. Is your Russian mail order bride making you type this dumb shit? I don't have a Russian wife. My Gawd but you're a slug. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Black Dog Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: I don't have a Russian wife. My Gawd but you're a slug. Oh so you're being a pro Russia, pro Putin stooge doesn't involve a personal stake? That's much worse. 1 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Nationalist Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 12 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Oh so you're being a pro Russia, pro Putin stooge doesn't involve a personal stake? That's much worse. Lol...yes dear... 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: I laid it out for you. The GOP wants to end aid to Ukraine. Trump is pals with Putin and said he will end the war. How you can't put two and two together here is simply shocking, but if you were smart you wouldn't be a Trump supporter. He has been compromised by Russia misinformation. Everyone knows that Ukraine may be doomed starting January 2025, as Trump will sell them out. 1 Quote
Black Dog Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: He has been compromised by Russia misinformation. Everyone knows that Ukraine may be doomed starting January 2025, as Trump will sell them out. No I think he's just an a**hole who toes the party line from his side. 1 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
WestCanMan Posted November 6, 2024 Author Report Posted November 6, 2024 5 hours ago, User said: Nope. If Russia did not invade, there would be no war. What next, are you going to blame rape victims for wearing a short dress? Did they deserve it too? No, you literally said you 100% supported war. If Biden wouldn't have been pushing NATO in Ukraine then Russia wouldn't have needed to invade. 5 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Counterpunch is a far left website. You are only aligned with them because they are anti- military while you are only anti-opposing Putin. I'm anti-war, and Biden caused this war. Anti-military is stupid. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
User Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: If Biden wouldn't have been pushing NATO in Ukraine then Russia wouldn't have needed to invade. Yet again, you blame the rape victim. NATO already existed on their border, NATO already existed before that, they pose no threat to Russia other than to oppose Russia attacking them. Russia had no need to invade. 3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: He has been compromised by Russia misinformation. Everyone knows that Ukraine may be doomed starting January 2025, as Trump will sell them out. What misinformation? All you do is make up crap and then run away like a coward when called out. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
User Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 3 hours ago, Black Dog said: No I think he's just an a**hole who toes the party line from his side. What party line am I toeing here? Your accusation doesn't even make sense. According to you the party line is to dump Ukraine, yet that isn't what I support or argue for here. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
WestCanMan Posted November 6, 2024 Author Report Posted November 6, 2024 29 minutes ago, User said: Yet again, you blame the rape victim. They weren't "victims". Zelensky is a big boy. Biden was a grown man when this war started. They should both be intelligent enough to know what NATO in Ukraine meant for Russia, even if you truly don't. My focus isn't on angry warmongers right now, I'm hoping that peace can be achieved quickly in Ukraine. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
User Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 Just now, WestCanMan said: They weren't "victims". Zelensky is a big boy. Biden was a grown man when this war started. They should both be intelligent enough to know what NATO in Ukraine meant for Russia, even if you truly don't. My focus isn't on angry warmongers right now, I'm hoping that peace can be achieved quickly in Ukraine. Yes, they certainly are victims, Ukrainians are being killed by Russians right now. No one was dying because they were talking about joining NATO. YOU are the angry warmonger. Remember, you "100%" supported war. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Black Dog Posted November 6, 2024 Report Posted November 6, 2024 35 minutes ago, User said: What party line am I toeing here? Your accusation doesn't even make sense. According to you the party line is to dump Ukraine, yet that isn't what I support or argue for here. Well I wasn't talking about you, you see. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
WestCanMan Posted November 6, 2024 Author Report Posted November 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, User said: Yes, they certainly are victims, Ukrainians are being killed by Russians right now. No one was dying because they were talking about joining NATO. Literally everyone that is dead or dying now from this war, or has been injured, or experienced loss of friends, property, or whatnot, all lost those things because of Ukraine's NATO involvement. I promise you that Canada simply CAN NOT enter into a military pact with China, NoKo, Russia and Iran right now. We are simply not allowed (not that we'd want to). Do you understand this much? Does it make sense to you? Quote YOU are the angry warmonger. Remember, you "100%" supported war. If you want to end a war, you need to understand why it started in the first place. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
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