Nationalist Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: So sayeth the self-anointed "good guy". A million people are already dead. Is it really time to escalate? I think the correct question is, 'Would a NATO escalation produce positive results?' And the answer is no. It would result in war all over Europe again. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, User said: Yet again, you refuse to answer the question. You are the one playing these dishonest games. Oh please...you know as well as anyone that if NATO attacked Russia directly, that Russia would respond in kind and... 'Whoopie...we all gonna get a radiation shower.' Don't be silly. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 Just now, Nationalist said: Oh please...you know as well as anyone that if NATO attacked Russia directly, that Russia would respond in kind and... 'Whoopie...we all gonna get a radiation shower.' Don't be silly. I did not ask if you support them attacking Russia directly. Yet again, you dishonestly run from the question. 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I think the correct question is, 'Would a NATO escalation produce positive results?' And the answer is no. It would result in war all over Europe again. So, what does Trump threaten Putin with if you already take "escalation" off the table? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
WestCanMan Posted November 5, 2024 Author Report Posted November 5, 2024 1 minute ago, User said: This is such dishonesty vaguery. The "right thing" for you is entire subjective and undefined here. No one placed the combined armies of 20 countries on Russias doorstep nor would that happen if Ukrinae were to join NATO. As I have previously pointed out to you before, NATO already exists on Russias border. NATO is a defensive alliance, their being on Russias border is only "aggression" to a Russia intent on being aggressive to them. Buddy, according to the current president and VP of the US, America could be a fascist country by January if today's election isn't won by the village DEI id10t. How safe will NATO be with a fascist running the US military? Hell, America's nuclear arsenal is in the hands of a man with advanced dementia right now, and it could end up in the hands of Kamala the bungling clown any day now. Can you guarantee that all the NATO countries will still be "good guys" 30 years from now? Of course not, don't be stupid. Quote Russia started this war. You are the one defending it. NATO instigated this war, Joe Biden in particular. NATO and Biden put Russia in a spot where they had to either 1) roll over or 2) fight, and now a million people are dead. Thanks, Joe. You can deny it all you want, but the facts remain. It was 100% legitimate for Russia to invade Ukraine based on that very real threat. 22 minutes ago, User said: Escalate? God dammit, man, please tell me you know what "escalate" means... Do you honestly think it's not an escalation if NATO threatens Russia now? 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
Nationalist Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 31 minutes ago, User said: I did not ask if you support them attacking Russia directly. Yet again, you dishonestly run from the question. So, what does Trump threaten Putin with if you already take "escalation" off the table? Ok tell me how Ukraine...which is essentially out of soldiers...is going to do anything of consequence with more arms? I don't expect he'll have to make threats. I don't think Russia wants all of Ukraine. Just the annexed parts. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Can you guarantee that all the NATO countries will still be "good guys" 30 years from now? Can you guarantee that the machines will not rise up like in Matrix and we won't be batteries 30 years from now? None of this is an argument or does anything to support your dumb lies and support for Putin. Its just your pathetic way of avoiding all the arguments made that show how dumb and dishonest you are. 23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: NATO instigated this war, Joe Biden in particular. NATO and Biden put Russia in a spot where they had to either 1) roll over or 2) fight, and now a million people are dead. Thanks, Joe. You can deny it all you want, but the facts remain. It was 100% legitimate for Russia to invade Ukraine based on that very real threat. So... which is it? Are you for or against escalation? You lying clown. You will just say anything at all. NATO did not institage anything. They have existed for decades now. Russia has never had to do anything. NATO being in Ukraine does nothing to Russia... unless Russia attacks NATO. You are the one who is here justifying this war, you want people dead. 24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: God dammit, man, please tell me you know what "escalate" means... Do you honestly think it's not an escalation if NATO threatens Russia now? NATO did not threaten Russia. You are the one who is here "100%" supporting escalation only one way... and that is for Russia. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
User Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ok tell me how Ukraine...which is essentially out of soldiers...is going to do anything of consequence with more arms? I don't expect he'll have to make threats. I don't think Russia wants all of Ukraine. Just the annexed parts. Still going to be dishonest and cowardly run from the question. Ukraine is not out of soldiers... if that were the case, Russia would be in Kyiv right now. If arms, support, and supplies were not doing anything... Russia would be in Kyiv right now. Yeah, sure... that is why Russia launched a full-scale invasion targeted at conquering all of Ukraine on day one? You are such a pathetic liar. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
WestCanMan Posted November 5, 2024 Author Report Posted November 5, 2024 22 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I think the correct question is, 'Would a NATO escalation produce positive results?' And the answer is no. It would result in war all over Europe again. It would be a helluva big roll of the dice, and what's the best possible outcome? Get the Ukraine border back to where it was before Biden started the war? Who really cares where the border is now? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
WestCanMan Posted November 5, 2024 Author Report Posted November 5, 2024 17 minutes ago, User said: Can you guarantee that the machines will not rise up like in Matrix and we won't be batteries 30 years from now? None of this is an argument or does anything to support your dumb lies and support for Putin. Its just your pathetic way of avoiding all the arguments made that show how dumb and dishonest you are. So... which is it? Are you for or against escalation? You lying clown. You will just say anything at all. NATO did not institage anything. They have existed for decades now. Russia has never had to do anything. NATO being in Ukraine does nothing to Russia... unless Russia attacks NATO. You are the one who is here justifying this war, you want people dead. NATO did not threaten Russia. You are the one who is here "100%" supporting escalation only one way... and that is for Russia. Of course I'm against escalation, dummy. This war never should have happened in the first place. You want to pretend that NATO played no part in causing this war, and just to back that up you want to threaten Russia with an attack by NATO 🤣 FFS, how are you not a Kamala supporter? 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
User Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: Of course I'm against escalation, dummy. This war never should have happened in the first place. Nope, you "100%" supported this war. That is escalation. 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You want to pretend that NATO played no part in causing this war, and just to back that up you want to threaten Russia with an attack by NATO 🤣 NATO caused this war like a girl wearing a short skirt caused her rape. 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: FFS, how are you not a Kamala supporter? You are the one supporting Russia over NATO here. So, were you a spy for them? 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
DUI_Offender Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I think the correct question is, 'Would a NATO escalation produce positive results?' And the answer is no. It would result in war all over Europe again. It's Russia that is escalating things, by bringing in troops from North Korea. However, you are a traitor, so you will side with our enemies. 18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Of course I'm against escalation, dummy. This war never should have happened in the first place. You want to pretend that NATO played no part in causing this war, and just to back that up you want to threaten Russia with an attack by NATO 🤣 NATO played no part in causing this war. Prove me wrong. Edited November 5, 2024 by DUI_Offender 1 Quote
DUI_Offender Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: NATO instigated this war, Joe Biden in particular. NATO and Biden put Russia in a spot where they had to either 1) roll over or 2) fight, and now a million people are dead. Thanks, Joe. You can deny it all you want, but the facts remain. It was 100% legitimate for Russia to invade Ukraine based on that very real threat. Would you shut the hell up with your lies. The overall death toll is closer to 250,000 than 1,000,000. Quote
Nationalist Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 39 minutes ago, User said: Still going to be dishonest and cowardly run from the question. Ukraine is not out of soldiers... if that were the case, Russia would be in Kyiv right now. If arms, support, and supplies were not doing anything... Russia would be in Kyiv right now. Yeah, sure... that is why Russia launched a full-scale invasion targeted at conquering all of Ukraine on day one? You are such a pathetic liar. Lol...sorry kid but the facts on the ground just don't agree with you. 27 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It would be a helluva big roll of the dice, and what's the best possible outcome? Get the Ukraine border back to where it was before Biden started the war? Who really cares where the border is now? I never cared. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 (edited) 19 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: It's Russia that is escalating things, by bringing in troops from North Korea. However, you are a traitor, so you will side with our enemies. NATO played no part in causing this war. Prove me wrong. I already have. So have several others. Go cry to your momma. Edited November 5, 2024 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 16 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Lol...sorry kid but the facts on the ground just don't agree with you. Once again, you completely ignore my comments. You can't argue straight up, so you play these games instead. What facts do not agree with me? Russia is not in Kyiv right now. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
robosmith Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: Trump...what do you think he has in mind? Ukrainian surrender. It's the only way he can end the war in a day like he's promising. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Well...if he really thinks he can end this war quickly, he'll need to use a very big stick. I think he'll cut the annexed portions of Eastern Ukraine off and award them to Russia, and I think part of the deal will include some sort of NATO and American presence in Ukraine. And then in a few years Putin will come back for more. Esp if he can get more gas than he's stealing from Ukraine. 3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: You are a scared child, in a man's body. More like a girl's body. Quote
Nationalist Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 38 minutes ago, User said: Once again, you completely ignore my comments. You can't argue straight up, so you play these games instead. What facts do not agree with me? Russia is not in Kyiv right now. I don't think Kiev is the Russian goal. 32 minutes ago, robosmith said: Ukrainian surrender. It's the only way he can end the war in a day like he's promising. I disagree. I think when all is said and done, Zelinsky will try to claim victory. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 32 minutes ago, robosmith said: And then in a few years Putin will come back for more. Esp if he can get more gas than he's stealing from Ukraine. More like a girl's body. Blah blah...woof woof. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I don't think Kiev is the Russian goal. Yeah... you and DUI both push this dumb lie. The facts of the outset of this war, when Russia was trying to encircle Kyiv, prove otherwise. Either way, you are still just running from the point, that if Ukraine was literally out of men as you claim, then whatever the goal is of Russia, they would have done as no one would be stopping them. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 9 minutes ago, User said: Yeah... you and DUI both push this dumb lie. The facts of the outset of this war, when Russia was trying to encircle Kyiv, prove otherwise. Either way, you are still just running from the point, that if Ukraine was literally out of men as you claim, then whatever the goal is of Russia, they would have done as no one would be stopping them. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-needs-soldiers-fight-russia-men-dodging-draft-zelenskyy-rcna152121?origin=serp_auto https://www.nzz.ch/english/why-is-ukraine-running-out-of-soldiers-ld.1835770?origin=serp_auto Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-needs-soldiers-fight-russia-men-dodging-draft-zelenskyy-rcna152121?origin=serp_auto https://www.nzz.ch/english/why-is-ukraine-running-out-of-soldiers-ld.1835770?origin=serp_auto Wow, an article from May... how is Ukraine still fighting if they have no soldiers? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, User said: Wow, an article from May... how is Ukraine still fighting if they have no soldiers? And one from August. There are more articles like this. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 34 minutes ago, Nationalist said: And one from August. There are more articles like this. And yet Ukraine is still fighting... how if they have no soldiers? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
DUI_Offender Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: I already have. So have several others. "Cause I said so!" is not considered proving one wrong. Quote
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