West Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 This administration is truly vile and what they are doing is disturbing. A 33 year old black mother of small children sentenced to three years prison time for an unacceptable view. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 Pretty sad. I'll bet it didn't happen as advertised here though Hopefully people are getting better at recognizing these types of stories... 2 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
West Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: Pretty sad. I'll bet it didn't happen as advertised here though Hopefully people are getting better at recognizing these types of stories... Disturbing take Quote
Rebound Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) Baloney. She didn’t go to prison for praying. Republicans can only argue by lying. Telling the truth doesn’t work for them. What’s the actual truth? According to evidence admitted at trial and other public filings and statements made in Court: On June 19, 2020, and June 20, 2020, WILLIAMS threatened and used force against patients and staff members at a reproductive health center located in lower Manhattan (the “Health Center”) and blocked patients and staff members from accessing the Health Center. In one instance, and as captured on video, WILLIAMS pressed her body against the door of the Health Center’s patient entrance and refused to move, preventing a Health Center volunteer from entering the Health Center. As a Health Center staff member (“Victim-1”) attempted to open the door for the volunteer, WILLIAMS purposefully leaned against the door, crushing Victim-1’s hand. Victim-1 yelled, “She’s crushing my hand,” but WILLIAMS remained against the door, trapping Victim-1’s hand and injuring it. At various times on June 19 and 20, 2020, WILLIAMS stood directly in front of the Health Center entrances. WILLIAMS initially blocked the main entrance used by patients, causing the Health Center to have to divert patients to enter through the staff entrance. WILLIAMS responded by moving to block the staff entrance and directing others to do the same. WILLIAMS livestreamed some of her conduct on June 19 and 20, 2020, on a social media account. On the livestream on June 19, 2020, WILLIAMS stood within inches of the Health Center’s chief administrative officer and threatened to “terrorize this place” and warned that “we’re gonna terrorize you so good, your business is gonna be over mama.” Similarly, WILLIAMS stood within inches of a Health Center security officer and threatened “war.” WILLIAMS also stated that she would act by “any means necessary.” In addition to WILLIAMS’s conduct in Manhattan, on multiple other occasions from at least 2019 to 2022, WILLIAMS and others intimidated and interfered with individuals seeking to obtain or provide reproductive health services at other health clinics across the country, including in Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, and Brooklyn, New York. For example, in January 2022, WILLIAMS travelled to a health center in Fort Myers, Florida, where she directed other individuals to block health center entrances. As a result of the blockade, medical staff was delayed in treating at least a dozen patients, three of whom were scheduled for time-sensitive procedures that could have resulted in bleeding, infection, or significant pain without timely treatment. In addition, in July 2022, WILLIAMS invaded a health center in Atlanta, Georgia, where she screamed through the door at patients attempting to enter the facility until they were forced to leave. Among other things, WILLIAMS shouted that she’d go to jail before letting patients enter the facility for an abortion and that she was “not afraid to get arrested.” Edited October 17, 2024 by Rebound 3 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
West Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) Separating a woman from her child over a prayer. Very pathetic and evil 2 minutes ago, Rebound said: Baloney. She didn’t go to prison for praying. Republicans can only argue by lying. Telling the truth doesn’t work for them. You are a disgusting human being Edited October 17, 2024 by West Quote
Rebound Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, West said: Separating a woman from her child over a prayer. Very pathetic and evil You are a disgusting human being Question: Are you stupld or lying? Cause maybe your stupidity problem is fixable. She blocked entrances to abortion clinics, threatened the staff and injured them, and she live-streamed these crimes. So plenty of evidence that she was doing more than praying in front of an abortion clinic. Edited October 17, 2024 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Deluge Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Pretty sad. I'll bet it didn't happen as advertised here though Hopefully people are getting better at recognizing these types of stories... How do you think it went down, Mike? Do you think Bevelyn defaced clinics and set cars on fire? Antifa has done that shit before, and probably everyone of those a$$holes are getting ready to riot on November 6. 6 minutes ago, Rebound said: Baloney. She didn’t go to prison for praying. Republicans can only argue by lying. Telling the truth doesn’t work for them. No, that's democrats. And the reason you perverts can only argue when you're lying is because you're psychopaths. 1 Quote
West Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deluge said: How do you think it went down, Mike? Do you think Bevelyn defaced clinics and set cars on fire? Antifa has done that shit before, and probably everyone of those a$$holes are getting ready to riot on November 6. No, that's democrats. And the reason you perverts can only argue when you're lying is because you're psychopaths. Their current candidate even paid for their bail in those circumstances. This is easily the most evil regime in US history. 1 hour ago, Rebound said: Baloney. She didn’t go to prison for praying. Republicans can only argue by lying. Telling the truth doesn’t work for them. What’s the actual truth? According to evidence admitted at trial and other public filings and statements made in Court: On June 19, 2020, and June 20, 2020, WILLIAMS threatened and used force against patients and staff members at a reproductive health center located in lower Manhattan (the “Health Center”) and blocked patients and staff members from accessing the Health Center. In one instance, and as captured on video, WILLIAMS pressed her body against the door of the Health Center’s patient entrance and refused to move, preventing a Health Center volunteer from entering the Health Center. As a Health Center staff member (“Victim-1”) attempted to open the door for the volunteer, WILLIAMS purposefully leaned against the door, crushing Victim-1’s hand. Victim-1 yelled, “She’s crushing my hand,” but WILLIAMS remained against the door, trapping Victim-1’s hand and injuring it. At various times on June 19 and 20, 2020, WILLIAMS stood directly in front of the Health Center entrances. WILLIAMS initially blocked the main entrance used by patients, causing the Health Center to have to divert patients to enter through the staff entrance. WILLIAMS responded by moving to block the staff entrance and directing others to do the same. WILLIAMS livestreamed some of her conduct on June 19 and 20, 2020, on a social media account. On the livestream on June 19, 2020, WILLIAMS stood within inches of the Health Center’s chief administrative officer and threatened to “terrorize this place” and warned that “we’re gonna terrorize you so good, your business is gonna be over mama.” Similarly, WILLIAMS stood within inches of a Health Center security officer and threatened “war.” WILLIAMS also stated that she would act by “any means necessary.” In addition to WILLIAMS’s conduct in Manhattan, on multiple other occasions from at least 2019 to 2022, WILLIAMS and others intimidated and interfered with individuals seeking to obtain or provide reproductive health services at other health clinics across the country, including in Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, and Brooklyn, New York. For example, in January 2022, WILLIAMS travelled to a health center in Fort Myers, Florida, where she directed other individuals to block health center entrances. As a result of the blockade, medical staff was delayed in treating at least a dozen patients, three of whom were scheduled for time-sensitive procedures that could have resulted in bleeding, infection, or significant pain without timely treatment. In addition, in July 2022, WILLIAMS invaded a health center in Atlanta, Georgia, where she screamed through the door at patients attempting to enter the facility until they were forced to leave. Among other things, WILLIAMS shouted that she’d go to jail before letting patients enter the facility for an abortion and that she was “not afraid to get arrested.” Usually in any communist or authoritarian regime the first thing they do is look to discredit or villify. Stalin did it. Hitler did it with the jews. Now Harris through her current lackey in the media are looking to portray the other side as violent so they feel justified in grotesque human rights abuses. Whats happening here is coined "institutional kidnappings". Using heavy handed tactics to enforce compliance and put down any dissent. This is really no different than some of the high profile cases you see in Latin America where thr press is used to lull the masses to sleep. It's time to wake up to the fact that your party's actions are grotesque. Edited October 17, 2024 by West Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, West said: Disturbing take I suspect that you don't accept sources that aren't familiar so we're much the same. I can provide a CNN link with scary Trump facts. You wouldn't buy it. The media bubbles, the culture war... it continues to froth and flow you see... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 @Rebound ! Are you saying that she WASN'T jailed for three years simply for stating an opinion?!? ZOUNDS I SAY! ZOUNDS!!! Or, seriously, another example of the death of the public sphere and the degradation of this platform... 1 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, West said: Separating a woman from her child over a prayer. Very pathetic and evil You are a disgusting human being YOU are a LIAR, posting BULLSHIT. Quote
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 40 minutes ago, West said: Their current candidate even paid for their bail in those circumstances. This is easily the most evil regime in US history. Usually in any communist or authoritarian regime the first thing they do is look to discredit or villify. Stalin did it. Hitler did it with the jews. Now Harris through her current lackey in the media are looking to portray the other side as violent so they feel justified in grotesque human rights abuses. Whats happening here is coined "institutional kidnappings". Using heavy handed tactics to enforce compliance and put down any dissent. This is really no different than some of the high profile cases you see in Latin America where thr press is used to lull the masses to sleep. It's time to wake up to the fact that your party's actions are grotesque. You got ALL ^THIS from one tweet? LMAO You are a FOOL. The things YOU ALLEGE don't happen in America. Quote
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 Yeah, she clearly broke the law, but this being a federal crime needs to change. There is no reason for that or her deserving some special sentence. An abortion clinic is no more special than any other building and she should get the normal punishments anyone else would for these crimes. Garland abused this law to go after others wrongly. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Aristides Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 26 minutes ago, User said: Yeah, she clearly broke the law, but this being a federal crime needs to change. There is no reason for that or her deserving some special sentence. An abortion clinic is no more special than any other building and she should get the normal punishments anyone else would for these crimes. Garland abused this law to go after others wrongly. So you think threats and physical violence are a legitimate form of protest? You must be OK with some of the BLM protests then. Just because you support her position on abortion doesn't make what she did acceptable. Edited October 17, 2024 by Aristides 2 Quote
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 12 minutes ago, Aristides said: So you think threats and physical violence are a legitimate form of protest? No, where did I say that? I clearly said: "An abortion clinic is no more special than any other building and she should get the normal punishments anyone else would for these crimes. " 12 minutes ago, Aristides said: You must be OK with some of the BLM protests then. Just because you support her position on abortion doesn't make what she did acceptable. Try to actually read my comment next time. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
West Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: I suspect that you don't accept sources that aren't familiar so we're much the same. I can provide a CNN link with scary Trump facts. You wouldn't buy it. The media bubbles, the culture war... it continues to froth and flow you see... Joe Biden said in his state of the union he planned on targeting Christian Nationalists. Time to take him at his word and put him up on human rights violations Quote
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, User said: No, where did I say that? I clearly said: "An abortion clinic is no more special than any other building and she should get the normal punishments anyone else would for these crimes. " In REALITY, it is SPECIAL and the LAW REFLECTS the EXCESSIVE THREAT TO IT that EXISTS. 2 minutes ago, User said: Try to actually read my comment next time. You should learn to understand what '?' means. 3 minutes ago, West said: Joe Biden said in his state of the union he planned on targeting Christian Nationalists. Time to take him at his word and put him up on human rights violations Of course, as USUAL, you post NO EVIDENCE for ^YOUR OPINION. Maybe he said he plans on targeting domestic terrorists. 💡 Quote
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: You should learn to understand what '?' means. When someone asks a loaded question that was already clearly answered in what they responded to and then they go on to answer it... it is not merely a innocent question. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Aristides Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 22 minutes ago, User said: No, where did I say that? I clearly said: "An abortion clinic is no more special than any other building and she should get the normal punishments anyone else would for these crimes. " Try to actually read my comment next time. Take it up with the judge. Congress makes laws, not the DoJ. The DoJ prosecutes, it doesn't sentence. Edited October 17, 2024 by Aristides Quote
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: Take it up with the judge. Congress makes laws, not the DoJ. The DoJ prosecutes, it doesn't sentence. Take what up with the Judge? Nothing I said indicated that I didn't understand the difference between the DOJ and Congress regarding who makes the laws. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Aristides Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, User said: Take what up with the Judge? Nothing I said indicated that I didn't understand the difference between the DOJ and Congress regarding who makes the laws. She got 4 months prison and 2 years supervised release, not 3 years in jail. Another bullshit thread. 1 Quote
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 24 minutes ago, Aristides said: She got 4 months prison and 2 years supervised release, not 3 years in jail. Another bullshit thread. Um, no Tennessee Woman Sentenced To 41 Months In Prison For Violating The Freedom Of Access To Clinic Entrances Act https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/tennessee-woman-sentenced-41-months-prison-violating-freedom-access-clinic-entrances Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Aristides Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) Quote WILLIAMS stood within inches of the Health Center’s chief administrative officer and threatened to “terrorize this place” and warned that “we’re gonna terrorize you so good, your business is gonna be over mama.” Quote Similarly, WILLIAMS stood within inches of a Health Center security officer and threatened “war.” WILLIAMS also stated that she would act by “any means necessary.” She is threatening domestic terroism. What should be the penalty for that? Edited October 17, 2024 by Aristides Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 32 minutes ago, Aristides said: She got 4 months prison and 2 years supervised release, not 3 years in jail. Another bullshit thread. Would you LIE if it helped your nation in a way? Of course you would. Well, this is a culture WAR.. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Rebound Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Deluge said: How do you think it went down, Mike? Do you think Bevelyn defaced clinics and set cars on fire? Antifa has done that shit before, and probably everyone of those a$$holes are getting ready to riot on November 6. No, that's democrats. And the reason you perverts can only argue when you're lying is because you're psychopaths. Hey, lying f*ck, I pasted in the evidence straight from the Department of Justice. You know perfectly f-ing well that the police didn’t arrest someone for praying and a jury sure didn’t convict her of praying. I don’t think you have any moral or religious values at all if you’re going to keep lying like this. Nobody goes to jail for praying. This whole thread is based on a lie which I easily disproved. Edited October 17, 2024 by Rebound 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
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