Rebound Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 Here’s how Trump’s run his business: 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
robosmith Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 Never understood the people who say they want the government run like a business. Government is supposed to represent all the people and a business just predominantly answers to the RICH. AKA, OWNERS 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 (edited) You already know what trump will run the country like. He's already run the country before. This isn't really a speculation kind of thing The economy will probably do well. Not staggeringly well, but well. Generally the world will be a fairly quiet place because nobody will be willing to take a risk at what he would do because he's nuts. He will be mean to his friends and nice to his enemies. And he will probably lock down the border. There you go. The next trump presidency. It'll only last 4 years. There's only so much you can do in 4 years Edited September 29 by CdnFox Quote
DUI_Offender Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: You already know what trump will run the country like. He's already run the country before. This isn't really a speculation kind of thing You mean when he left the economy in shambles, after his poor handling of the COVID pandemic, and becoming the first President in modern history to have a net job loss? 2 Quote
Rebound Posted September 29 Author Report Posted September 29 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: You already know what trump will run the country like. He's already run the country before. This isn't really a speculation kind of thing The economy will probably do well. Not staggeringly well, but well. Generally the world will be a fairly quiet place because nobody will be willing to take a risk at what he would do because he's nuts. He will be mean to his friends and nice to his enemies. And he will probably lock down the border. There you go. The next trump presidency. It'll only last 4 years. There's only so much you can do in 4 years I love the way you clowns only describe economic performance with adjectives, as if statistics like Dow Jones, Unemployment Rate, GNP , etc are all meaningless… because none of those figures make Trump’s Presidency look particularly good, nor do they make Biden’s look bad. The stock market has hit all-time highs over 40 times this year. And during this incredible bull market, Trump stock has fallen from over $70 a share to $12 a share. THAT is how this conman runs his businesses and THAT is how he’ll run America’s economy. 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Nationalist Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: You mean when he left the economy in shambles, after his poor handling of the COVID pandemic, and becoming the first President in modern history to have a net job loss? Lol...more childishness. Hey...tell us again...what was the inflation rate after 5 months of Brandon? How about gas prices? What was gas costing again? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
sharkman Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...more childishness. Hey...tell us again...what was the inflation rate after 5 months of Brandon? How about gas prices? What was gas costing again? Yeah, what nonsense. Trump will run the country and economy like he ran it last time. Jobs everywhere. Wars ended. Cheap oil/gas. Low taxes and an economy running on all cylinders. 1 Quote
User Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 Sigh... sure, lets pretend like Trump was not already President and none of this happened then. 2 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
User Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 13 hours ago, robosmith said: Never understood the people who say they want the government run like a business. Government is supposed to represent all the people and a business just predominantly answers to the RICH. AKA, OWNERS Being run like a business means: -Only spending what you have or are capable of creating value to borrow for -Doing things efficiently -Doing things effectively -Doing things to create value for people A business answers to their customers. If the only thing a business cares about is their owners, they won't be in business for long. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
CdnFox Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: You mean when he left the economy in shambles, after his poor handling of the COVID pandemic, and becoming the first President in modern history to have a net job loss? No, that's not true. But i think you know that. Drop dead fine for covid. Better than many countries. And his economy up to covid was very good. Not as good as he thinks but it was good See that's the main difference, I don't have to tell any lies or exaggerate anything or pretend that things happen that didn't in order to make my argument. But democrats and their supporters do. You have to lie about it because the truth does not serve your talking points. If trump gets in again we'll have a good economy, tons of drama, a more peaceful world, more russian collusion, less taxes, and in 4 years i'll be all over and we'll have seen 12 years of some of the most spectacular political theatre america has been able to produce so far and then we'll move on. Quote
CdnFox Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 8 hours ago, Rebound said: I love the way you clowns only describe economic performance with adjectives, as if statistics like Dow Jones, Unemployment Rate, GNP , etc are all meaningless… I love that your best rebuttal was to be a grammar nazi "You use AJECTIVES?!?!!? AND YOU"RE ASSUMING THE ECONOMY'S PRONOUNS!!!!!!" Kid, the stock market, unemployment and GDP ( i assume the n was a typo, GNP would be a weird number to refer to in that context). all did well under trump. They were good. Trump did just fine. Deficit spending is a valid criticism but the other things were not. 8 hours ago, Rebound said: The stock market has hit all-time highs over 40 times this year. Sure. Biden is inflating it artificially with massive spending and deficits. JUST SO people like you could make that ridiculous claim I've written about this before with you with charts and graphs and all kinds of explanations. But the problem is that creates a false economy at at some point you can't just keep increasing borrowing and spending forever. First off - it leads to inflation and the only way to beat that is to then hurt the economy, which is what everyone's concerned about right now. And second it tends to lead to economic development that's not following the natural market forces and therefore when that stimulus stops it hurts the economy worse than it would when companies evolved and grew based on natural market forces. And of course even if your claim was true that the stock market represents biden doing really well... that would NOT mean trump did badly. So. that's 3 misses kid, yer ou Quote
CdnFox Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 38 minutes ago, sharkman said: Yeah, what nonsense. Trump will run the country and economy like he ran it last time. Jobs everywhere. Wars ended. Cheap oil/gas. Low taxes and an economy running on all cylinders. Largely true but he will be inheriting a serious economic problem in that the economy will be entering a weakening phase as the damage necessary to fight biden's insanely high interest will be taking effect and there will be a slowing. But over all it'll be similar to last time, a good solid handling of the economy (not spectacular but good) and the dems will start talking about how the NEXT gop candidate is (GASP!) even WORSE THAN TRUMP WHO WAS THE WORST SINCE HITLER AND NOW IT"LL BE EVEN WORSE AND THIS WILL BE THE LAST ELECTION EVER AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!! Quote
Rebound Posted September 29 Author Report Posted September 29 (edited) 51 minutes ago, User said: Sigh... sure, lets pretend like Trump was not already President and none of this happened then. True. The Dow didn’t double when Trump was President, it doubled when Biden was President. The record for Federal deficit wasn’t set when Biden was President, the record was set by Trump. Illegal immigration didn’t begin to spike when Biden was President, the spike began when Trump was President. Shall we continue? 17 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Largely true but he will be inheriting a serious economic problem in that the economy will be entering a weakening phase as the damage necessary to fight biden's insanely high interest will be taking effect and there will be a slowing. But over all it'll be similar to last time, a good solid handling of the economy (not spectacular but good) and the dems will start talking about how the NEXT gop candidate is (GASP!) even WORSE THAN TRUMP WHO WAS THE WORST SINCE HITLER AND NOW IT"LL BE EVEN WORSE AND THIS WILL BE THE LAST ELECTION EVER AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!! The President does not set interest rates, the Federal Reserve Chairman does. The current Chairman of the Federal Reserve was appointed by Donald Trump. You fools keep pulling nonsense out of your butts because you still haven’t figured out that Donald Trump is a liar and a conman. Promising the besterest economy without making any statements of substance will not actually accomplish a thing. Trump is a confidence man; he’s a flimflam man, he’s a con, a crook; a liar. He has created barely any economic proposals because he’s in way over his head. His idea of what’s good for business is to let businessmen behave like crooks and gangsters, but that is not what’s good for America. Edited September 29 by Rebound 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 2 minutes ago, Rebound said: True. The Dow didn’t double when Trump was President, it doubled when Biden was President. Sure turns out if you dump billions of unearned dollars into it the economy grows But that always increases inflation. How was biden's inflation record again? Any issues there? Quote The record for Federal deficit wasn’t set when Biden was President, the record was set by Trump. No, it's been higher under biden. Now don't get me wrong, it's already one area i said trump did poorly in. But biden was worse. Quote Illegal immigration didn’t begin to spike when Biden was President, the spike began when Trump was President. Absolutely completely utterly false. There were more illegals in 2023 alone than trump's entire presidency. That's just straight up disinformation Quote Shall we continue? That probably should me my line Did you think you were doing well? Quote The President does not set interest rates, the Federal Reserve Chairman does. The current Chairman of the Federal Reserve was appointed by Donald Trump. The feds consult with and work directly with the president of the day and that's the way it is. Everyone knows the fed isn't all that indepedent. But that's not the problem. Gov't actions DO directly impact inflation. And one of the only tools the gov't has to fight inflation is to see higher interest rates. By driving inflation through the roof (yes sorry it WAS his fault not the 'globes" fault) biden created a situation where the only response could be higher interest rates to try to cool that. I can explain the economics behind that if you like but at the end of the day biden drove up inflation and that drove up interest rates, which will now lead to the economy slowing down and will put recessionary pressures on the markets. 1 Quote
User Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 3 minutes ago, Rebound said: True. The Dow didn’t double when Trump was President, it doubled when Biden was President. Like, do you not even care about how dishonest this is? I mean, maybe this crap works on your uninformed liberal pals at the cocktail parties... but you are talking to someone who follows politics pretty closely and is well-informed. The Dow significantly increased while Trump was President until the Pandemic. You are trying to play this dishonest game two ways: -Blame Trump for a Pandemic -Give Biden credit for the recovery from the bottom of the market during a Pandemic. Its as dumb and dishonest as Biden bragging about how many jobs he created, when it was nothing more than the economy returning to normal after the Pandemic. 7 minutes ago, Rebound said: The record for Federal deficit wasn’t set when Biden was President, the record was set by Trump. This is not ignorance, it is just an outright lie. Yet again, you take away the Pandemic years and Biden is spending more in deficit now than Trump ever did. 12 minutes ago, Rebound said: Illegal immigration didn’t begin to spike when Biden was President, the spike began when Trump was President. Illegal immigration has been at record numbers under Biden and they don't care, Biden issued a ton of Executive orders to make things worse at the border than when Trump was President. 13 minutes ago, Rebound said: Shall we continue? Continue what? This surface level deep BS and lies? 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
robosmith Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 7 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...more childishness. Hey...tell us again...what was the inflation rate after 5 months of Brandon? How about gas prices? What was gas costing again? Hey tell us again how you don't understand it was Trump's disastrous handling of the pandemic that disrupted the supply chains THAT CAUSED the inflation AFTER demand soared under Biden. Are you completely CLUELESS about how much more rapidly demand can soar than supply? LMAO 1 hour ago, sharkman said: Yeah, what nonsense. Trump will run the country and economy like he ran it last time. Jobs everywhere. Wars ended. Cheap oil/gas. Low taxes and an economy running on all cylinders. Of course you are completely ignorant about Trump's economy COLLAPSING in 2020 due to his disastrous handling of the pandemic. See numerous super-spreader events. 🤮 Quote
CdnFox Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 21 minutes ago, robosmith said: Hey tell us again how you don't understand it was Trump's disastrous handling of the pandemic that disrupted the supply chains THAT CAUSED the inflation AFTER demand soared under Biden. You mean "tell us how you aren't making up fake nonsense which is complete bullshit to support our democratic candidate? Who ever that is this week?" Quote Are you completely CLUELESS about how much more rapidly demand can soar than supply? LMAO NO. Which is how we know it's biden's fault. Quote Of course you are completely ignorant about Trump's economy COLLAPSING in 2020 due to his disastrous handling of the pandemic. His economy was fine and the economic collapse during covid was unavoidable. He handled it just fine but you can't shut business down and expect the economy to do well. Quote See numerous super-spreader events. 🤮 Which never actually spread anything. Yawn. Quote
DUI_Offender Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 10 hours ago, Rebound said: I love the way you clowns only describe economic performance with adjectives, as if statistics like Dow Jones, Unemployment Rate, GNP , etc are all meaningless… because none of those figures make Trump’s Presidency look particularly good, nor do they make Biden’s look bad. The stock market has hit all-time highs over 40 times this year. And during this incredible bull market, Trump stock has fallen from over $70 a share to $12 a share. THAT is how this conman runs his businesses and THAT is how he’ll run America’s economy. Just wait until Trump gives more big businesses huge tax breaks, and passes them off to the poor, working, and middle class. One would have to be a fool to vote for him, if they happen to earn less than the top 10% of all Americans. Quote
DUI_Offender Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: No, that's not true. But i think you know that. I've posted links to the actual statistics before, but you choose to ignore them, and lie and tell the World that Trump is the greatests jobs President ever. This is reality: From the US Bureau of Labour & Statistics 2023. Edited September 29 by DUI_Offender Quote
User Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 Just now, DUI_Offender said: I've posted links to the actual statistics before, but you choose to ignore them, and lie and tell the World that Trump is the greatests jobs President ever. This is reality: Yet again... the dishonesty here is the pandemic. Neither Biden created jobs or Trump lost them... A pandemic happened that jobs were lost during and then recovered from. 6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Just wait until Trump gives more big businesses huge tax breaks, and passes them off to the poor, working, and middle class. One would have to be a fool to vote for him, if they happen to earn less than the top 10% of all Americans. Why would we think this? That isn't what happened before and that certainly is not what Trump has planned for his next term. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, sharkman said: Yeah, what nonsense. Trump will run the country and economy like he ran it last time. Jobs everywhere. Wars ended. Cheap oil/gas. Low taxes and an economy running on all cylinders. Of course he will. It'll be easy. Cut regulations...let business thrive...close the border...drill baby drill...and talk sense into Zelinsky...which it appears he sort o' did already. Edited September 29 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Of course he will. It'll be easy. Cut regulations...let business thrive.. Then to make up for the cuts, increase taxes on the working class and middle class, which is a recipe for disaster considering less Americans will be able to afford anything but the basic necessities. The businesses who count on consumers buying their luxury items will suffer. 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: talk sense into Zelinsky... Do Putin's bidding, considering it was Russian oligarchs that bailed Trump out of bankruptcy in the early 2000s. Quote
DUI_Offender Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 18 hours ago, Rebound said: Here’s how Trump’s run his business: No wonder why his father joked that he hoped his plane would crash, when Trump flew overseas with Marla Maples in 1990. Donald's ideas and projects in Atlantic City, were causing Fred trump a financial bloodbath. Quote
Nationalist Posted September 29 Report Posted September 29 7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Then to make up for the cuts, increase taxes on the working class and middle class, which is a recipe for disaster considering less Americans will be able to afford anything but the basic necessities. The businesses who count on consumers buying their luxury items will suffer. Do Putin's bidding, considering it was Russian oligarchs that bailed Trump out of bankruptcy in the early 2000s. I haven't heard Trump intends on raising anyone's taxes. You're making sh1t up now. You libbies just don't understand macroeconomics at all. All you care about is how much free money you can spend. Man y'all would love shopping with my wife and our niece. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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