Why is the cost of living so much lower in China than Canada?

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, blackbird said:

Do you want to have eternal life?  The time is now.

It doesn't get more eternal than being a universe does it...but who knows?

[blackbird]

13 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

How arrogant of you to pooh-pooh others belief systems that may/may not work for them 

You should study pre colonization aboriginal belief systems.  They involved Shaminism (witch doctors) which was totally alien to European settler beliefs and culture.  It was not something that could fit in with today's western society.  The history of colonization involved conflict with aboriginal belief systems and European missionaries.  It was quite a sensitive subject and continues to be.  I don't think those belief systems could possibly fit in with non-native society, laws, and life.  Yet liberal governments have mixed healing lodges in with the Canadian justice system,  Liberal ideology seems to try to give lighter sentences than non-native offenders and in some cases send offenders to healing lodges.  It was a native who was released on parole that murdered about a dozen people in the Cree nation in Saskatchewan a few years ago.

[Nefarious Banana]

"you should'   "you should"   "you should"    stfu

[blackbird]

16 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

To blame this on red seal tradesmen? You are out of touch with reality. 

 

You have that backwards.  I am not out of touch with reality.   There are unions in many industries which do not have the power to seriously harm a country.  If the telephone workers go on strike, they don't cause a lot of harm because the telephone system keeps running.   The supervisors and management do the essential services to keep it going.

If the railway workers or longshoremen go on strike, they shut the seaports down or the transportation system for moving agriculture products and grains.  That does serious harm to business and the country.   That is nothing to do with "Red Seal" workers.  So who is out of touch with reality?

I don't blame anything on Red Seal tradesmen.  I was talking about the type of union jobs that can hold a country hostage and extort far more than a typical wage.  You think that is reasonable?  $101,000 a year to load and unload container ships in seaports like Vancouver or work in the railway system.   

Let's face it there are typical union jobs in mills, factories, etc. that do not cause huge harm to the country if they go on strike.  Then there are union jobs that hold a vast amount of power to demand outrageous contracts.  They can seriously affect thousands or millions of people.  The system is totally unbalanced and inequitable.

Edited September 30 by blackbird

[blackbird]

11 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

"you should'   "you should"   "you should"    stfu

The fact is the Bible has the answers about life, politics, and the evil in the world.  There is a struggle going on in the world between good and evil.  But the Devil wants to silence people from talking about it from a Biblical point of view.

[DUI_Offender]

15 hours ago, blackbird said:

The fact is the Bible has the answers about life, politics, and the evil in the world.  There is a struggle going on in the world between good and evil.  But the Devil wants to silence people from talking about it from a Biblical point of view.

The Bible was written by a Roman on a bad acid trip.

[Nefarious Banana]

20 hours ago, blackbird said:

The fact is the Bible has the answers about life, politics, and the evil in the world.  There is a struggle going on in the world between good and evil.  But the Devil wants to silence people from talking about it from a Biblical point of view.

Your thread:  China/Canada $$, etc.  And yet again, you've got up on your pulpit to preach, condemn, and look down your nose at anyone that has different beliefs than your own.  Opening your reply(s) with "You should" sets the tone of your rabid zealotry.  Your thread, and life's full of choices, I'll choose not to read your stuff in the future.  

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

And yet again, you've got up on your pulpit to preach, condemn, and look down your nose at anyone that has different beliefs than your own.

I am sorry if you take it that way.  I try to simply pass along the truth in the Bible about salvation by faith in Jesus Christ.  The Bible says that is the only way of salvation, i.e. only way of avoiding hell.  

If you see someone drowning in the ocean and you had a life jacket you could throw them, would you not do so?

That is the only reason I try to help people.  You know the world if full of darkness and we sit here and throw out all kinds of comments on an impersonal forum.  I throw out comments about how to be saved because it see it as the way to love they neighbour and do what Jesus said.  

I doubt most people on these forums pay much attention to what I say, but maybe there is the rare person that might consider it.  Other than that, I don't see anybody convincing anybody else of much.  Most people's minds are made up and they don't seem to accept anything anyone else says.  

I am not looking down by nose at other beliefs.  I am simply pointing out what I believe and that is what Jesus taught.  He clearly taught there is only one belief system on religious matters.  So it is impossible to agree with or accept other religions which contradict what Jesus said.  I am not inventing this myself.  I read the Bible and what theologians have to say about it.

Perhaps "you should" was a bad way to start a reply.  I apologize for using those words.

Not everything I say is perfect.  I am not a perfect person and nobody else is either.  We do the best we can with what we know.  Sometimes we slip.

You shouldn't take what I say as a personal attack.  It is not meant to be that.  It is my hope that what I am saying is good news, not bad.  I hope to improve and try to be more positive rather than negative.  You know some people on here are very hard to talk to as they are very hostile and provocative, which makes it a challenge to say anything to them.  We are on a learning path here.

Edited October 1 by blackbird

[CrazyCanuck89]

No way the average Salary is that much.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, CrazyCanuck89 said:

No way the average Salary is that much.

Different websites give different numbers.

This one says:

"

Age Bracket	Average Monthly Salary (CNY)	Average Monthly Salary (USD)
20-29	10,000	1,390
30-39	15,000	2,085
40-49	20,000	2,780
50-59	18,000	2,500
60+	12,000	1,670

[blackbird]

11 hours ago, CrazyCanuck89 said:

No way the average Salary is that much.

I have no way of knowing which website is telling the truth.

One website says $4214 USD which seems quite high.

 I doubt if it is that high.

One website says "In 2024, the average salary in China has been steadily increasing across various sectors. The average monthly salary in the country is around 8,452 CNY (Chinese Yuan) or approximately 1,330 USD."   This sounds much more realistic.

Average salary in China (talentup.io)

It is important to understand rents are much lower in China, a fraction of what it is in Canada.  The important thing is the cost of living in proportion to the monthly income.

Edited October 3 by blackbird

[blackbird]

On 10/1/2024 at 2:02 AM, DUI_Offender said:

he Bible was written by a Roman on a bad acid trip.

"1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper."  Psalm 1:1-3 KJV

The law of the Lord in English is the King James Bible, written by prophets and apostles under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit over a period of about 1,500 years and completed nearly 2,000 years ago.  Verified and authenticated by thousands of manuscripts and copies of manuscripts.

What is your basis of right and wrong?  Or do you believe you are your own guide.  Without a foundation (the KJV Bible) you have nothing, no foundation other than the changeable whims and corrupt ideas of men.

"1  My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: 2  For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee."  Proverbs 3:1, 2 KJV

How many people have cut their lives short by rejecting God's law and going out on drugs or alcohol and smashed their cars? 

"

Video of a driver filming his speedometer while going nearly double the speed limit on an Ontario highway has emerged.

But the fact that the driver posted the video to social media himself has given police pause.

“It’s unfortunate that people think this is a way to get clout on the internet,” Sgt. Murray Campbell of the Toronto Police Service’s traffic services unit told CTV News Toronto in an interview about the trend.

In recent months, a number of similar videos of dangerous driving have been posted to social media by the drivers themselves, some of which have led to arrests by police.

The video in this case, which was publicly viewable and sent to CTV News Toronto by a tipster, shows the driver filming himself -- and then the speedometer -- as he reaches a speed of 190km/h on a stretch of Highway 401 west of Toronto."

Driver in Ontario films himself going almost double the speed limit | CTV News

 

 

[BeaverFever]

On 9/27/2024 at 11:12 AM, blackbird said:

When a Communist country like China has a better standard of living than Canada

Nobody has ever said China has a better standard of living than Canada. Furthermore there’s a reason why “made in china” is synonymous with poor quality 

[ExFlyer]

On 9/30/2024 at 2:36 AM, blackbird said:

You should study pre colonization aboriginal belief systems.  They involved Shaminism (witch doctors) which was totally alien to European settler beliefs and culture.  It was not something that could fit in with today's western society.  The history of colonization involved conflict with aboriginal belief systems and European missionaries.  It was quite a sensitive subject and continues to be.  I don't think those belief systems could possibly fit in with non-native society, laws, and life.  Yet liberal governments have mixed healing lodges in with the Canadian justice system,  Liberal ideology seems to try to give lighter sentences than non-native offenders and in some cases send offenders to healing lodges.  It was a native who was released on parole that murdered about a dozen people in the Cree nation in Saskatchewan a few years ago.

pre colonization aboriginal belief systems were word of mouth stories handed down and changed by the story teller to meet their narratives.

The history of colonization was  the same as the history of aboriginal tribal wars. Winner takes all.

"The Native Women's Association of Canada proposed the concept of a healing lodge. The result was the Okimaw Ohci Healing Lodge (which means "Thunder Hills" in Cree) a 29-bed facility located on 160 acres of the Nekaneet First Nation outside Maple Creek, Saskatchewan. It was opened in November 1995."

[CrazyCanuck89]

On 9/27/2024 at 11:51 AM, DUI_Offender said:

The average person in China does not have a better standard of living than in Canada.  Your figures are probably not correct either.

It's amazing how the right is against China, but supports the standard of living.

[cannuck]

On 10/9/2024 at 10:26 PM, BeaverFever said:

Nobody has ever said China has a better standard of living than Canada. Furthermore there’s a reason why “made in china” is synonymous with poor quality 

Having spent a fair bit of time in China I can tell you it is impossible to pick some random number(s) out of thin air and even pretend it represents something from which you can relate the standard of living here to there.   We have costs in Can and USA that people in China do not have.  We have entire segments of our economy that produce diddlyshit but cost us a significant amount of dosh (lawyers, insurance, private medicine, massive government bureaucracies and debt).   Another HUGE difference is most people in China get up in the morning and do productive work whereas here fewer than 1 in 6 create any wealth.  and on it goes.  Some other significant differences is NOBODY in China reports what they actually earn and how they earn it, so there is no way to accurately measure that value (what I can say is you don't buy all of those Chinese and Euro cars on a grand a month).  Refer to the Mao dynasty that killed off maybe 100 million people from starvation to understand why they don't trust government.  Also: important to understand the real money left when the Japanese invaded to look for enough gold to finance WWII - but since China has been the dominant economy of the region for 5,000 years they have had a lot more time to earn (and sequester) wealth that we have had barely a century of branch plant economy to try to do so.  I could go on for a hundred pages, but this should be a good start to understand it is an extremly different economy and society.

AND: as to the poor quality from China stuff:  if you go there and look for the cheapest shit you can find you will get cheap shit.  If you go there to respectfully look to buy good stuff and are prepared to pay and put your own QA/QC in place, you can get some of the best stuff in many market segments.  You need to be there and know WTF you are looking at to be able to find what can be done.   You also need to fully understand the language and culture to have a hope in Hell of finding all of the options.