blackbird Posted September 27 Report Posted September 27 (edited) This is really hard to understand. Rent in China is a fraction of what it is in Canada. The average monthly wage in China is about $4,214 USD. This seems quite high to me, but this what a search engine reveals. Yet the rent in China is between $100 and $900 per month. This is a small percentage of the average monthly income in China. I know of a Canadian who is working in China and his rent is $550 per month and $50 for utilities for a total of $600 per month. Many Canadians are now paying thousands of dollars per month in rent, a large percentage of their monthly income. I believe food price are lower in China as well. Restaurant prices are lower for meals and I believe there is no tipping. The only explanation I can think of is the governments in Canada are really shafting Canadians. They are totally mismanaging things and causing much higher prices for everything. Why is there such a housing shortage in Canada? We have a very large geographical area with a relatively small population. Yet real estate prices in some areas are outrageous. My own view is federal and provincial governments have messed up things so badly that the economy and prices of land and real estate is completely wrecked. I don't know if there is a way out of this mess. Edited September 27 by blackbird Quote
ExFlyer Posted September 27 Report Posted September 27 Seriously??? You are comparing a communist dictatorship, a society where government owns everything to Canada (or the US or any other democratic country)?? Shake your head LOL 3 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Seriously??? You are comparing a communist dictatorship, a society where government owns everything to Canada (or the US or any other democratic country)?? Shake your head LOL Yes, seriously, it just proves how bad Canada has become under our governments. When a Communist country like China has a better standard of living than Canada, we know we are in serious trouble. Do you have the ability to see there is a serious problem here? You don't even believe you have a problem. You are so obsessed against God and the Bible, your mental function does not allow you to discuss anything in a normal way. Edited September 27 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 I will say I don't know how accurate the information I found on a search engine is, but it does seem to be saying the average person in China has a better standard of living than the average Canadian. I am not sure how to verify that. It does sound incorrect, but I am not sure. If it is true, it is a sad commentary on our governments in Canada. They have failed Canadians. Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Seriously??? If it is true that the average person in China, a Communist dictatorship, has a better standard of living than the average Canadian, we are in serious trouble. But I am not sure my figures are correct. It doesn't really make much sense. Can it be possible that the average Chinese person has a better standard of living than the average Canadian? Why can't we be compared to other countries including Communist countries? Are you nuts? Quote
DUI_Offender Posted September 27 Report Posted September 27 24 minutes ago, blackbird said: If it is true that the average person in China, a Communist dictatorship, has a better standard of living than the average Canadian, we are in serious trouble. But I am not sure my figures are correct. It doesn't really make much sense. Can it be possible that the average Chinese person has a better standard of living than the average Canadian? Why can't we be compared to other countries including Communist countries? Are you nuts? The average person in China does not have a better standard of living than in Canada. Your figures are probably not correct either. 2 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted September 27 Report Posted September 27 38 minutes ago, blackbird said: Yes, seriously, it just proves how bad Canada has become under our governments. When a Communist country like China has a better standard of living than Canada, we know we are in serious trouble. Do you have the ability to see there is a serious problem here? You don't even believe you have a problem. You are so obsessed against God and the Bible, your mental function does not allow you to discuss anything in a normal way. 26 minutes ago, blackbird said: I will say I don't know how accurate the information I found on a search engine is, but it does seem to be saying the average person in China has a better standard of living than the average Canadian. I am not sure how to verify that. It does sound incorrect, but I am not sure. If it is true, it is a sad commentary on our governments in Canada. They have failed Canadians. 24 minutes ago, blackbird said: If it is true that the average person in China, a Communist dictatorship, has a better standard of living than the average Canadian, we are in serious trouble. But I am not sure my figures are correct. It doesn't really make much sense. Can it be possible that the average Chinese person has a better standard of living than the average Canadian? Why can't we be compared to other countries including Communist countries? Are you nuts? You are seriously whacked if you even try to compare a communist dictatorship to any western democracy. To even question the differences is as obtuse and 1diotic and simple minded as one could possible be. You need profesional help LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 One website says the median salary in China is $3855 USD. It also says the average monthly salary in China is $4255 USD. What’s the average salary in China in 2024? (timedoctor.com) Another website says: "In 2024, the average salary in China has been steadily increasing across various sectors. The average monthly salary in the country is around 8,452 CNY (Chinese Yuan) or approximately 1,330 USD." Average salary in China (talentup.io) Something is wrong here. This is a vastly different number than the other website. Who is correct? Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: You need profesional help LOL You are the one who is in serious need of help. I am comparing one country's standard of living with another country's. It doesn't matter what their political system is. Most countries in the world are dictatorships of one kind or another. If Canada is falling below a Communist country or they are moving ahead of us, then we know we are in big trouble. We have the wrong kind of people leading our governments if it is getting that bad. Seriously, give your head a shake. Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 (edited) This website says this: Average Salary in China - Complete Guide 2024 - TimeCamp The table below presents a basic comparison of average monthly salaries between China and selected countries from different regions: Country Average Monthly Salary (USD) China 1,000 – 1,400 United States 3,400 – 4,000 Germany 3,500 – 3,800 Japan 2,500 – 3,000 India 400 – 600 Brazil 500 – 750 Nigeria 150 – 300 Australia 3,200 – 3,600 Edited September 27 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 This only goes to prove there is much false information on the internet. Sorry if I gave some false information I read. Will have to try to verify information before posting it. Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 14 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: The average person in China does not have a better standard of living than in Canada. Your figures are probably not correct either. Yes, I am discovering that. One website said the median or average income in China is about $4200 USD per month. How could this be true? Looks like there is lots of false information on some websites. Sorry for the error. Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 16 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: To even question the differences is as obtuse and 1diotic and simple minded as one could possible be. There is nothing wrong with comparing income and standard of living between different countries. What reason do you have for saying that? Just now, blackbird said: obtuse and 1diotic You are clever in changing the spelling in the word 1diotic to get around the moderation filter. Shows how your mind works too. Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 (edited) What is also important is what the average rent a person pays in China for an apartment. I know a Canadian who is staying there and he pays $550 per month and $50 for utilities. This has to be calculated as a percentage of income to determine how they are doing. I am not sure how much homes cost to buy in China. But if the average income is around $1300 per month USD, and the rent is $500 Can, they are still far better off than many Canadians who can't afford the high rents in many Canadian cities and towns. Edited September 27 by blackbird Quote
eyeball Posted September 27 Report Posted September 27 14 minutes ago, blackbird said: In Canada is falling below a Communist country or they are moving ahead of us, then we know we are in big trouble. You're saying socialism works better than you've been led to believe? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 (edited) 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're saying socialism works better than you've been led to believe? No, I am not saying that. I am saying there are some serious problems in the way Canada has been governed. I don't think it proves Socialism is better. It only proves how badly we are being governed in Canada. Canada is more of a welfare state. Government meddles and interferes in everything in every way possible. But Canada also taxes in every way possible and tries to provide funding for everything they can imagine. We are taxes quite heavily if you calculate all the way they tax us. Edited September 27 by blackbird Quote
eyeball Posted September 27 Report Posted September 27 1 minute ago, blackbird said: No, I am not saying that. I am saying there are some serious problems in the way Canada has been governed. I don't think it proves Socialism is better. It only proves how badly we are being governed in Canada. Ah so you're suggesting dictatorship works better. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Ah so you're suggesting dictatorship works better. No, never said that either. We already live in nearly a dictatorship. Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Ah so you're suggesting dictatorship works better. The carbon tax was just imposed on us. Nobody had any vote or say. Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 The failing health care system is just imposed on us. People are denied the right to pay for health care insurance in Canada. That is dictatorial. Thousands are dying on waiting lists that could have afforded health insurance. Preventable deaths. Nobody voted for that. Disability groups are fighting MAID and going to go to court over it. They are negatively affected by MAID. Nobody voted for that. Quote
ExFlyer Posted September 27 Report Posted September 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, blackbird said: You are the one who is in serious need of help. I am comparing one country's standard of living with another country's. It doesn't matter what their political system is. Most countries in the world are dictatorships of one kind or another. If Canada is falling below a Communist country or they are moving ahead of us, then we know we are in big trouble. We have the wrong kind of people leading our governments if it is getting that bad. Seriously, give your head a shake. 1 hour ago, blackbird said: This website says this: Average Salary in China - Complete Guide 2024 - TimeCamp The table below presents a basic comparison of average monthly salaries between China and selected countries from different regions: Country Average Monthly Salary (USD) China 1,000 – 1,400 United States 3,400 – 4,000 Germany 3,500 – 3,800 Japan 2,500 – 3,000 India 400 – 600 Brazil 500 – 750 Nigeria 150 – 300 Australia 3,200 – 3,600 1 hour ago, blackbird said: This only goes to prove there is much false information on the internet. Sorry if I gave some false information I read. Will have to try to verify information before posting it. 1 hour ago, blackbird said: There is nothing wrong with comparing income and standard of living between different countries. What reason do you have for saying that? You are clever in changing the spelling in the word 1diotic to get around the moderation filter. Shows how your mind works too. 1 hour ago, blackbird said: What is also important is what the average rent a person pays in China for an apartment. I know a Canadian who is staying there and he pays $550 per month and $50 for utilities. This has to be calculated as a percentage of income to determine how they are doing. I am not sure how much homes cost to buy in China. But if the average income is around $1300 per month USD, and the rent is $500 Can, they are still far better off than many Canadians who can't afford the high rents in many Canadian cities and towns. All this only proves you are aphukin !diot. A bible thmpin phukin Ididot. You have become as communist as you have been crying about. Your posts have become more and more radical and nonsensical. Yiu have gone over the edge. A bible thumpin political radical...cannot get any weirder than that LOL You have become a communist dictatorship worshipper...displacing your bible thumpin LOL Edited September 27 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
eyeball Posted September 27 Report Posted September 27 11 minutes ago, blackbird said: The carbon tax was just imposed on us. Nobody had any vote or say. Oh well, PP will be in soon and everything will be right as rain in no time. 3 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DUI_Offender Posted September 27 Report Posted September 27 2 hours ago, blackbird said: Yes, I am discovering that. One website said the median or average income in China is about $4200 USD per month. How could this be true? Looks like there is lots of false information on some websites. Sorry for the error. Well the truth of the matter is, people will flock to countries where their quality of life will improve for them and their children. If China or India was like this, we would inevitably see millions of Africans, Ukrainians, and people from other parts of Asia and Eastern Europe waiting to immigrate there. However, the population of these places remains homogenous. Since I can remember (since WW2), people Worldwide have always wanted to migrate to North America and Europe, since we have relatively stable democratic principles, and in most cases, are not engaged in conflict. 2 Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: Since I can remember (since WW2), people Worldwide have always wanted to migrate to North America and Europe, since we have relatively stable democratic principles, and in most cases, are not engaged in conflict. Yes, that is true. This social media acquaintance who works in China says he is treated very respectfully because he is Caucasian. Isn't that strange. A white person in China is highly respected and treated very well. I don't think most people would want to immigrate to China for a number of reasons. We are better off in Canada in many ways. I wouldn't trust their legal system either. Of course I wouldn't want to live in a Communist system. I think Japan has great respect for Americans too. Edited September 27 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted September 27 Author Report Posted September 27 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: You have become a communist dictatorship worshipper You are wacko man. I never said anything about agreeing with or supporting their Communist system. You love to lie. Quote
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