Mark Carney set to take on role as Trudeau special advisor: source

[CdnFox]

Mark Carney set to take on role as Trudeau special advisor: source - National | Globalnews.ca

LOL  well i called that one.  

Not that it was any great challenge.  It's been rumoured for some time he'd be joining the liberals.  But this will allow him to do so while trudeau claims he's 'solved the economy  

[herbie]

Oh goodie, bring a banker onboard. That'll suck up to right wingers and help prove Mr Singh's points about the Libs.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Oh goodie, bring a banker onboard. That'll suck up to right wingers and help prove Mr Singh's points about the Libs.

That particular banker is pretty in tight with the climate change crowd So you might like him. Although he did speak out against the carbon tax sort of kind of recently for the first time, he has been a huge backer in the past

[Dougie93]

Carney is a fool for not taking this opportunity to forsake the Liberals to join the Conservative Party instead

it's not like the Red Tory Progressive Conservatives wouldn't welcome him into the ranks

[herbie]

No Dougie, just like the USA we have two right wing parties to choose from. And unlike them, an option.
Carney simply chose the center right one that he's comfortable with.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

No Dougie, just like the USA we have two right wing parties to choose from. And unlike them, an option.
Carney simply chose the center right one that he's comfortable with.

we are not like America, quite the opposite in fact

we are the United Empire Loyalists, having been defeated in the War of Independence

seeking the protection of the British Crown in North America

upon the shores of Lake Ontario in Upper Canada

by Westminster Parliamentary Supremacy, since 1 July 1867

[herbie]

OMG you're as bad as old Mr Wightman the Social Studies teacher in the British Colonial interpretation of history as blackbird is with the Bible quotes.

 

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, herbie said:

OMG you're as bad as old Mr Wightman the Social Studies teacher in the British Colonial interpretation of history as blackbird is with the Bible quotes.

Blackbird is a fearsome Loyalist to the British Crown in North America

more British than the British in the face of the American revolutionary republic

Ulster Scots Protestant Orangeman

can't get anymore Canadian than that

[Nefarious Banana]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

can't get anymore Canadian than that.

There are many that are more Canadian than that . . .

[herbie]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

can't get anymore Canadian than that

Oh BS. the vast majority of Canadians barely give a shit about the Monarchy. Don't want a republic where ONE GUY wields much actual power, and not worth the effort to even hold a referendum or serious discussion. That Canada you refer to ended long ago, starting with our own damn flag.

We have TWO parties beholden to corporate interests, just as the USA does. And one not so much, willing to twist their ear a little  And a corporate strjuif the public demands.

And a corporate structure just barely willing to understand it's cheaper to let the govt fund healthcare and the people think it's free rather than shell out twice as much of thier money to fellow billionaires.

[Dougie93]

6 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh BS. the vast majority of Canadians barely give a shit about the Monarchy. Don't want a republic where ONE GUY wields much actual power, and not worth the effort to even hold a referendum or serious discussion. That Canada you refer to ended long ago, starting with our own damn flag.

but Canada is ruled by one man ; the Prime Minister is effectively a dictator above the law

why ?

because the Prime Minister wields the constitutional power of the monarch

furthermore, if there is constitutional crisis, the monarch decides who is Prime Minister

all Canadians get to do is pick an MP from a predetermined short list

after that, the Canadian citizen's role is done, and all the King's power is in the PMO

[Dougie93]

7 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

There are many that are more Canadian than that . . .

there are three founding diasporas in Canada

the First Nations,

the Quebecois,

and the Scots-Irish Protestant Loyalists

[Dougie93]

13 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh goodie, bring a banker onboard. That'll suck up to right wingers and help prove Mr Singh's points about the Libs.

just another glaringly stupid idea from Trudeau

he lives in such a bubble, that somehow he thinks Mark Carney is popular

he's certainly not popular with the right, since the right in Canada has become populist

[cannuck]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

just another glaringly stupid idea from Trudeau

he lives in such a bubble, that somehow he thinks Mark Carney is popular

he's certainly not popular with the right, since the right in Canada has become populist

This was not the Little Turd's doing - it is part of the "Code Red" project from the backroom boys to dump him.  The Uniparty (that is about as far from "right wing" as you could get) counts on Canadians being sufficiently ignorant of pretty much anything outside of beer and hockey to realize banksters ARE the problem and Carney is very much part of it - a genuine leader as it happens.   So easy to forget it was central bankers that not only facilitated the Roaring Twenties but directly caused the "Dirty Thirties".

[Michael Hardner]

23 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

there are three founding diasporas in Canada

the First Nations,

the Quebecois,

and the Scots-Irish Protestant Loyalists

We need to be proud of our capacity for pragmatism, and value work and fairness.

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

We need to be proud of our capacity for pragmatism, and value work and fairness.

I would suggest that those values originate with the Scots-Irish Protestant Loyalists

[Dougie93]

21 minutes ago, cannuck said:

This was not the Little Turd's doing - it is part of the "Code Red" project from the backroom boys to dump him.  The Uniparty (that is about as far from "right wing" as you could get) counts on Canadians being sufficiently ignorant of pretty much anything outside of beer and hockey to realize banksters ARE the problem and Carney is very much part of it - a genuine leader as it happens.   So easy to forget it was central bankers that not only facilitated the Roaring Twenties but directly caused the "Dirty Thirties".

well it is none the less amusing to see Trudeau flailing about as he desperately tries to cling to power

[Michael Hardner]

19 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I would suggest that those values originate with the Scots-Irish Protestant Loyalists

The fact that all three groups work together still, and did peaceably for over 100 years speaks to pragmatism.

[herbie]

7 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

but Canada is ruled by one man ; the Prime Minister is effectively a dictator above the law

That is complete and utter bullshit. A PM can't do bugger all without the consent of the majority of Parliament AND approval of the Senate.
Enough of the ignorant shit about Trudeau being a dictator when he has to get support from other parties to achieve that.
While a lot of people on this forum are quick to call him one, only the truly densest of ignoroids truly believes that.

Which has nothing to do with the appointment of Mark Carney whatsoever, just your usual attempt to divert every topic into spewing your particular perversion of history.

[Goddess]

LILLEY: Carney is Trudeau's new adviser with lots of conflicts (msn.com)

This comes with a whole host of possible conflicts of interest that neither Carney nor the Liberal Party have addressed.

According to his LinkedIn profile , Carney remains a finance adviser to the British government. He’s also on an advisory board for a finance firm named PIMCO. In addition, he is a board member at online payments firm Stripe, a board member for Bloomberg Philanthropies and Chair and Head of Transition Investing at Brookfield Asset Management, a major global commercial real estate firm.

In addition to his business work, Carney is the United Nations Special Envoy on Climate Action and Finance. He is also a board member of the World Economic Forum, a position he has held since 2010.

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So, as he advises the Trudeau Liberal Party where to steer Canada in terms of government policy, whose interests will he be serving?

They mention Dominic Barton, who had a conflict of interest with McKinsey and then suddenly McKinsey was getting millions of dollars for "consulting".

I don't think I've ever seen a government so openly handing out so much money to cronies and insiders.

[Nefarious Banana]

27 minutes ago, herbie said:

Enough of the ignorant shit about Trudeau being a dictator . . . 

Maybe Trudeau is just a dick.  Most of Canada thinks so . . .

[Dougie93]

41 minutes ago, herbie said:

That is complete and utter bullshit. A PM can't do bugger all without the consent of the majority of Parliament AND approval of the Senate.

in theory

but note that I used the caveat "effectively"

since Canadian politics is all cronyism; the parties ensure that only cronies are chosen as MP's

in theory, they could bring a PM down, it certainly happens in the UK

but it never happens in Canada, because so much power to hire & fire is vested in the PMO

moreover, a PM is effectively above the law, because the RCMP are lapdogs to the PMO

and the Senate of course is the ultimate office of cronies in Canada

Edited September 10, 2024 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Enough of the ignorant shit about Trudeau being a dictator when he has to get support from other parties to achieve that.

as an aside, I don't think you quite understand what dictator means

it was an ancient Roman invention

wherein the Roman Senate would appoint one person to be dictator for six months to deal with crises

that is effectively what the Canadian Prime Minister is, except the term is extended to four years

during the Chretien years, Jeffery Simpson famously coined it the "Benign Dictatorship"

but of course, if you get a bad dictator, a fool like Trudeau ; not so benign after all

I wasn't a fan of Chretien at the time

but there's no doubt that Justin Nero makes Jean Chretien look like Cincinnatus in comparison

Edited September 10, 2024 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

The fact that all three groups work together still, and did peaceably for over 100 years speaks to pragmatism.

yet the duelling American Progressive and Populist ideologies have overrun the ramparts

and Canada is not built to take the pounding

wither are you now, Glenn Gould ?

Edited September 10, 2024 by Dougie93

[ExFlyer]

Meh...another special advisor to government.  A zero announcement.....maybe.

He is one in a very long line of advisors for every prime minster since we became a country. LOL

While this guy seems the heir apparent to justin, what he is now is only to his benefit and if Trudeau does not run, PP better watch out. Carney is no puppy and his bark can easily be backed up by a big bite.