Hitler had some good ideas.

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There is a misconception about Adolf Hitler. People say he was all bad. While it is true he was a sociopath, and was obsessed about race, to the point of killing millions of innocent people, Hitler had some really good ideas:

 

THE AUTOBAHN

While Hitler did not invent the Autobahn, he perfected it. Immediately after his rise to power, Hitler allotted billions for construction of this super highway project. In fact, the Autobahn was so successful, that it was a precursor for the American Interstate system.

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Hitler the Animal Rights Activist. 

                       

 

                   

Hitler was arguably the first modern day Animal Rights activist, and he was a vegetarian as he loved animals so much that he could not eat them. In fact, Adolf Hitler and his top officials took a variety of measures to ensure animals were protected. 

 

Several Nazis were environmentalists, and species protection and animal welfare were significant issues in the Nazi regime.^[3] Heinrich Himmler made an effort to ban the hunting of animals.^[4] Hermann Göring was a professed animal lover and conservationist,^[5] who threatened to commit Germans who violated Nazi animal welfare laws to concentration camps.^[5] In his private diaries, Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a vegetarian who was contemptuous of Judaism and Christianity for the ethical distinction they drew between the value of humans and the value of animals;^[6][5] Goebbels also mentions that Hitler planned to discourage slaughterhouses in the German Reich following the conclusion of World War II.^[6] Moreover, animal testing was permitted in Nazi Germany.^[7][8][9]

The current animal welfare laws in Germany were initially introduced by the Nazis.^[10]

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Anti-Tobacco Movement

                                                                                                                   

It is rumored that Adolf Hitler was so opposed to smoking in his later life that he couldn’t stand someone lighting up in the same room, and often felt obligated to object to it as a waste of money. Thus, he began one of the most expensive and effective tobacco movements throughout history. While during the 1930s and 1940s, other anti-tobacco movements failed fantastically in other countries, it was taken seriously in Nazi Germany.

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The Volkswagen

 

Literally meaning “People’s Car”, this vehicle was presented as a car that every German citizen could afford to buy. It was based on the advice of Hitler to the designer, saying that it should resemble a beetle. The car was a huge success (it was made available to citizens of the Third Reich through a savings scheme at 990 Reichsmark, about the price of a small motorcycle), but toward the end of the war resources were low and public availability declined. The Volkswagen emerged more as a military vehicle toward the end of the Third Reich.

[Nationalist]

He did. He also was driven by anger over what the alies did to Germany after WWI.

The alies tried to destroy Germany and in a warped sort of way...

Got what they paid fer. 

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3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

He did. He also was driven by anger over what the alies did to Germany after WWI.

He was pretty mad as a teenager too. He loved that one girl, who never knew he existed, and would often talk about suicide if she did not acknowledge him. 

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The alies tried to destroy Germany and in a warped sort of way...

Got what they paid fer. 

The Treaty of Versailles? 

Edited August 25, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

He was pretty mad as a teenager too. He loved that one girl, who never knew he existed, and would often talk about suicide if she did not acknowledge him. 

The Treaty of Versailles? 

Hey...he was completely unbalanced, but was the darling of the NYT for quite some time.

Yes the treaty of Versailles. It was way over the top.

[Dougie93]

I would concede that the Autobahn is the greatest automotive invention of all time

that Germany has the Autobahn

and America doesn't

that's a kick in the teeth

[Dougie93]

10 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

The Volkswagen

 

Literally meaning “People’s Car”, this vehicle was presented as a car that every German citizen could afford to buy.

 

Henry Ford had that idea with the Model T in 1908

ironically,  VW was saved by the occupying British Army,

converting it into a British car company for all intents & purposes

[Dougie93]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The alies tried to destroy Germany and in a warped sort of way...

frankly, if Kaiser Bill had actually been in command,

he would have sued for peace after failing to break the blockade at Jutland

the problem for Germany was that the Kaiser had effectively been deposed by a military Junta

led for all intents & purposes by Erich Ludendorff from 1916 onward

whom was actually the one who led the German Empire to destruction

to include the death of his own son, during the failed Operation Micheal offensive in the spring of 1918

 

 

[-TSS-]

People often are so willing and ready to give communism a second chance. They say that communism is in principle a good idea but the people who conducted it buggered it all up.

They also say that the form of communism which prevailed in half of Europe for over 50 years was not real communism and we should try real communism.

Imagine if somebody said that same thing about the prevailing regime in Germany in the 1930s. It was a good idea but the people who implemented it bungled it up.

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

The Treaty of Versailles? 

Adolf Hitler looked much further back than that

he viewed himself as being the second coming of his hero, Frederick II, otherwise known as Frederick The Great

thus Adolf Hitler's imperial ambitions and concept of operations

dated all the way back the Seven Years War

wherein there was an Anti-Prussian Alliance of France, Russia & Austria

with Prussia allied to Saxony & Hanover, but more importantly allied to Britain & America beyond

wherein the vastly outnumbered Prussians still achieved a victory against overwhelming odds

by their supremely well indoctrinated officer class & army, led by Frederick II, who was in fact a military genius

the problem for Hitler was that,  in the Seven Years War, Prussia was backed by the British to include Americans

whereas in the Second World War, Hitler was opposed by the Anglo-American naval blockade

he who rules the waves rules the world, was the lesson that Adolf Hitler never grasped, unto his downfall

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yes the treaty of Versailles. It was way over the top.

thing about the Treaty of Versailles

is that America refused to sign it

instead, America chose to prop Wiemar Germany up

against the will of the vengeful British & French

so Germany didn't actually pay the price of defeat as an Empire in the Great War

until the onset of the Great Depression in 1929

wherein America itself incited a global financial & economic crisis,

with the imposition of the Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act

resulting in America no longer being able to prop Wiemar Germany up

inciting a sudden deflationary spiral in Wiemar Germany

causing the rapid downfall of said republic into chaos

the power of the NSDAP therein is that they simply offered a solution to such chaos

which essentially enabled them with carte blanche;  all the way from Autobahns to Stalingrad

America chose to prop the Germans up,

then had to come back "Over There" to put that genie back in the bottle all over again

the moral of the story

is that America had already become the Global Hegemon by British Imperial default

even before the Great War had broken out

[Dougie93]

45 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

People often are so willing and ready to give communism a second chance. They say that communism is in principle a good idea but the people who conducted it buggered it all up.

They also say that the form of communism which prevailed in half of Europe for over 50 years was not real communism and we should try real communism.

Imagine if somebody said that same thing about the prevailing regime in Germany in the 1930s. It was a good idea but the people who implemented it bungled it up.

but National Socialism was really just Communism, except only for the Aryan Master Race

like the Woke Ideology of today, Nazism was Race Communism

it none the less suffered from the same central flaw of Communism, that being unchecked central planning

Hitler after all idolized Josef Stalin and by that track adopted the same "Socialism in One Country" ideology

the only time Nazi Germany was successful, was when Hitler was out of the loop

such as Guderian single highhandedly inventing Blitzkrieg war of encirclement in 1940

only by disobeying the central planning of Hitler from Berlin

anytime Adolf Hitler was actually in charge,

from Stalingrad to Kursk, everything became a centrally planned suicide mission

to include the centrally planned conceit that somehow Enigma could never be compromised

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3 hours ago, -TSS- said:

People often are so willing and ready to give communism a second chance. They say that communism is in principle a good idea but the people who conducted it buggered it all up.

They also say that the form of communism which prevailed in half of Europe for over 50 years was not real communism and we should try real communism.

Imagine if somebody said that same thing about the prevailing regime in Germany in the 1930s. It was a good idea but the people who implemented it bungled it up.

I've been on several internet forums, and I ahve never heard anyone say that Communism should be given a second chance, and that "Communism during the Iron Curtain 1945-89, was not real Communism."  People have lost track of what Communism is, especially those who think "Canada is under a Communist dictatorship currently."

Communism was very bad for the people of the countires where it was implemented. Even China, which was Communist at the beginning of 1949 has now turned into pretty much a free market system. 

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1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

 

Hitler after all idolized Josef Stalin and by that track adopted the same "Socialism in One Country" ideology

Hitler did not idolise Josef Stalin or any type of socialism. He considered Stalin, the Soviet Union, and of course, the Jews, as being in a big conspiracy to hold Germany and "aryan nations" down. 

[Dougie93]

Just now, DUI_Offender said:

Hitler did not idolise Josef Stalin or any type of socialism. He considered Stalin, the Soviet Union, and of course, the Jews, as being in a big conspiracy to hold Germany and "aryan nations" down. 

well Hitler viewed the Soviet Union as being the ultimate expression of the Jewish Bolshevik Conspiracy

none the less, Hitler idolized Stalin as being the ultimate dictator therein

Hitler had contempt for Western democratic leaders

viewing the ruthless mass murdering Stalin as the one to emulate

mind you, Stalin was not even as committed as Hitler

in that, Stalin was more of an opportunist, whereas Hitler was utterly committed to his strange ideology

take for example when the Nazis are at the gates and Stalin flees into exile at his Dacha

when the Soviet High Command comes to Stalin, Stalin assumes they are staging a coup

while Hitler never would have imagined that in the same circumstance

Stalin is waiting for his subordinates to overthrow him at any moment

whereas Hitler is shocked when his subordinates attempt that

thus how you can see that Hitler believed his own propaganda

while Stalin wasn't sure if he had fooled anybody

[Guest]

On 8/25/2024 at 3:48 AM, DUI_Offender said:

There is a misconception about Adolf Hitler.

Not really. "He's a bit of a d**k", is rather balanced and accurate at the same time.

On 8/25/2024 at 3:48 AM, DUI_Offender said:

While it is true he was a sociopath, and was obsessed about race, to the point of killing millions of innocent people

This has a habit of overshadowing accomplishments. 

Its typically bad for business, I heard.

On 8/25/2024 at 3:56 AM, DUI_Offender said:

Hitler was arguably the first modern day Animal Rights activist

He was a ruthless animal, and an animal activist. You couldn't make this stuff up.

If he invented suicide hotlines in morse code, the circle of irony would be complete.

[SkyHigh]

On 8/25/2024 at 3:48 AM, DUI_Offender said:

There is a misconception about Adolf Hitler. People say he was all bad. While it is true he was a sociopath, and was obsessed about race, to the point of killing millions of innocent people, Hitler had some really good ideas:

 

THE AUTOBAHN

While Hitler did not invent the Autobahn, he perfected it. Immediately after his rise to power, Hitler allotted billions for construction of this super highway project. In fact, the Autobahn was so successful, that it was a precursor for the American Interstate system.

How sad must ones life be to take time out of their day to defend Hitler. Pathetic 

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

How sad must ones life be to take time out of their day to defend Hitler. Pathetic 

It's at least as sad as comparing him to so many leaders today. What's funny about it is how many of his defenders do both.

I'm quite sure Hitler would be appalled at being association with Trudeau.

[SkyHigh]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

It's at least as sad as comparing him to so many leaders today. What's funny about it is how many of his defenders do both.

I'm quite sure Hitler would be appalled at being association with Trudeau.

I agree with your first point 

Don't really understand the Trudeau reference 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

Don't really understand the Trudeau reference

sarc/off...sorry about that.

[athos]

On 8/25/2024 at 5:48 PM, DUI_Offender said:

There is a misconception about Adolf Hitler. People say he was all bad. While it is true he was a sociopath, and was obsessed about race, to the point of killing millions of innocent people, Hitler had some really good ideas:

 

THE AUTOBAHN

While Hitler did not invent the Autobahn, he perfected it. Immediately after his rise to power, Hitler allotted billions for construction of this super highway project. In fact, the Autobahn was so successful, that it was a precursor for the American Interstate system.

 

Hitler was a Khazar and British agent

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by athos

[SkyHigh]

13 hours ago, eyeball said:

sarc/off...sorry about that.

Ok, that's what I was hoping. Hahaha 

[August1991]

On 8/25/2024 at 3:48 AM, DUI_Offender said:

There is a misconception about Adolf Hitler. People say he was all bad.

 

I strongly disagree.

IMHO, in summer 1914, diplomats, smart people, civilised Europe got it wrong.

Then, ordinary Europeans (and others) suffered 30 years.