Support for the Democratic Party is a complete rejection of Christian values in society.

[Chrissy1979]

12 minutes ago, West said:

The gospel according to Oprah right here. 

Nope. The gospel according to Jesus. Show me where Jesus said to demonize immigrants. I'll save you the trouble. He only ever said the opposite.

[West]

5 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Nope. The gospel according to Jesus. Show me where Jesus said to demonize immigrants. I'll save you the trouble. He only ever said the opposite.

Immigrants aren't the problem. Organized drug and human trafficking cartels are. 

Show me where Jesus said to turn a blind eye while your family members get hooked on fentynal. 

[impartialobserver]

3 minutes ago, West said:

Immigrants aren't the problem. Organized drug and human trafficking cartels are. 

Show me where Jesus said to turn a blind eye while your family members get hooked on fentynal. 

and your family members have zero control over this?  Not very conservative of you.

[User]

9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Nope. The gospel according to Jesus. Show me where Jesus said to demonize immigrants. I'll save you the trouble. He only ever said the opposite.

"Demonize immigrants"

What exactly does that even mean?

Supporting a nation's laws and borders is not against Christianity or anything Jesus said. 

[User]

4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

and your family members have zero control over this?  Not very conservative of you.

I see you are going with the absurd argument from extremes that somehow being Conservative is equal to being an Anarchist. 

[West]

4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

and your family members have zero control over this?  Not very conservative of you.

So you support selling harmful substances? 

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, West said:

So you support selling harmful substances? 

What a way to twist this. That takes some talent. Are you sure that you are not a politician or aspiring politician? Can you answer my question first... do your relatives have control over what they ingest? if not.. that is sad. 

Edited August 23, 2024 by impartialobserver

[Deluge]

37 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Jesus also didn't lie, as you are doing. There is still time to accept Christ over Trump and save your immortal soul.

Jesus has nothing to do with abortion loving climate nazis, comrade. I think you had better get acquainted with the Bible before you and the devil get on a first name basis with each other. 

Edited August 23, 2024 by Deluge

[User]

4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

What a way to twist this. That takes some talent. Are you sure that you are not a politician or aspiring politician? Can you answer my question first... do your relatives have control over what they ingest? if not.. that is sad. 

You were twisting this when you said it was not Conservative to care about the enforcement of laws protecting the borders and the importation of deadly drugs across them. 

Even now, you are continuing to play the dumb game. 

Also, not all deaths are related to people choosing to take illegal substances either. 

Edited August 23, 2024 by User

[NAME REMOVED]

7 hours ago, blackbird said:

"Because it has chosen narcissism as its foundation for faith, the Democratic Party has cast out whatever Christian elements it may have once had.

On Friday, former President Donald Trump spoke at the National Religious Broadcasters International Christian Media Convention, in which he said, “How any Christian can vote for a Democrat, Christian or person of faith, how you can vote for a Democrat is crazy.” 

Given the values and beliefs held dearest by the Democratic Party, it is hard not to agree. Radicals have gradually pushed it further left, which has also been shifting the goalposts of society in a more secular direction ever since the Progressive Era of the late 19th century. 

The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct from yet complementary to one another. 

By destroying marriage and the distinctions of the sexes, the party helped craft sexual activity into a vital expression of choice and liberation. These are the party values over the Christian practices of restraint and modesty. It has removed the incentives to abstain from sex and promoted perverse sexual behavior. In doing so, it has helped to normalize sexual depravity.

The idol of abortion also affirms the desire of the Democratic Party to exempt society from taking responsibility for its actions. By dehumanizing children as “parasites” and framing abortion as a right, the party encourages people to blame others for their decisions to have sex. This is despite Christians asserting that all life is sacred and formed by God upon conception. "

Christianity is incompatible with the Democratic Party - Washington Examiner

The liberals and NDP are the equivalent of the Democratic party in the U.S.  They hold pretty much the same belief systems.

Kamala Harris in her final DNC speech proudly boasts of her support for abortion as a national right or killing of pre-born babies as freely as possible.  She was wildly cheered by the DNC.  This is a complete rejection of Christian belief in the sanctity of human life.

Anyone who has ever read the new testament can tell you with 199% certainty that Trump goes against everything Christ stands for. Then again, the so-called Christians of Germany rallied to support Hitler, so it's not like Christians have the best track record of living by the New testament, especially the passages Jesus would have wanted them to live by.

[NAME REMOVED]

5 hours ago, blackbird said:

I've got a bridge to sell you.   The cunning Democrats claim this is what they are all about but this is just a smokescreen to hide their real agenda.  Some may actually believe these points you quoted, but they are over-ruled by the woke and progressives in the Democratic Party.  Just listen to their new candidate talk about "reproductive rights".  Nothing Christian about killing pre-born babies.  Jesus would not be happy about that.

Socialism is another anti-Biblical ideology strongly pushed by the radical liberals / Democrats.

State-ordained wealth redistribution or Socialism has nothing to do with voluntary charity which you correctly quoted Jesus as teaching.  Charity has to be voluntary by individuals or charitable organizations.  That is totally different than Socialist government policies.

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Radicals have gradually pushed it further left, which has also been shifting the goalposts of society in a more secular direction ever since the Progressive Era of the late 19th century. 

The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct from yet complementary to one another. 

By destroying marriage and the distinctions of the sexes, the party helped craft sexual activity into a vital expression of choice and liberation. These are the party values over the Christian practices of restraint and modesty. It has removed the incentives to abstain from sex and promoted perverse sexual behavior. In doing so, it has helped to normalize sexual depravity.   unquote

The Democratic party is all about pushing their secular humanist agenda on society and this is totally contrary to what Jesus and the Bible teach.

The Bible condemns any sexual relations outside marriage between a husband and wife.

Jesus is also called the word.  The word refers to Holy Scripture or the Bible, in English the King James Bible.  That means the Bible was written by Jesus who is God.  So what the Bible teaches is what Jesus teaches even though it may not be a direct quote of Jesus' words as in the gospels.

" 14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. "  John 1:14 KJV

 

I could say that you obviously have never picked up a bible in your life, and have absolutely no idea about the teachings of Jesus Christ, but sadly your views are far from uncommon in those Megachurches we see propping up all over North America.

[Rebound]

3 hours ago, User said:

In other words, rather than admit how beyond ignorant your claim was... you change the subject. 

I did not change the subject. 
If you’re Christian than be honest.  Clement of Alexandria wrote of the equality of sexes. Nothing I saw in his works even mentions abortion. But even if it does somewhere, why focus on those writing and not his writings declaring the equality of the sexes? 

[Rebound]

21 minutes ago, User said:

"Demonize immigrants"

What exactly does that even mean?

Supporting a nation's laws and borders is not against Christianity or anything Jesus said. 

I’m afraid that it violates many principles of Christianity, and additionally, calling the downtrodden and poor “animals,” “not human”, “rapists” and “murderers” is particularly anti-Christian. 

[NAME REMOVED]

Yup coming to this forum to learn about Christianity, is like asking Pauly Shore how to become a respected actor. 

[User]

11 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Anyone who has ever read the new testament can tell you with 199% certainty that Trump goes against everything Christ stands for. Then again, the so-called Christians of Germany rallied to support Hitler, so it's not like Christians have the best track record of living by the New testament, especially the passages Jesus would have wanted them to live by.

Well, not everything... but then again, you are jumping right to HITLER comparisons, not that you were trying to be serious here anyhow. 

4 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I’m afraid that it violates many principles of Christianity, and additionally, calling the downtrodden and poor “animals,” “not human”, “rapists” and “murderers” is particularly anti-Christian. 

Are you even a Christian?

What principles does it violate?

Calling people who rape and murder, animals, not human, and murderers and rapists is just an accurate statement of fact. 

[User]

8 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I did not change the subject. 
If you’re Christian than be honest.  Clement of Alexandria wrote of the equality of sexes. Nothing I saw in his works even mentions abortion. But even if it does somewhere, why focus on those writing and not his writings declaring the equality of the sexes? 

You did, you tried to claim Christians never spoke of this until the 1970's. This has been a subject of discussion with Christians since 100AD man. 

You are changing the subject to other things Clement mentioned. 

[Chrissy1979]

28 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Jesus has nothing to do with abortion loving climate nazis, comrade. I think you had better get acquainted with the Bible before you and the devil get on a first name basis with each other. 

I disagree. Jesus loves everyone. But he didn't think we'll of liars (like those who pretend climate change is not real) and those who tried to have dominion over others. Look at what he said about the money-changers 

[Rebound]

16 minutes ago, User said:

You did, you tried to claim Christians never spoke of this until the 1970's. This has been a subject of discussion with Christians since 100AD man. 

You are changing the subject to other things Clement mentioned. 

Nothing I saw addressed abortion. 

[User]

6 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I disagree. Jesus loves everyone. But he didn't think we'll of liars (like those who pretend climate change is not real) and those who tried to have dominion over others. Look at what he said about the money-changers 

Like those who lie about what the inflation rates were when Trump left office like you did?

 

[User]

Just now, Rebound said:

Nothing I saw addressed abortion. 

Because you have read all his works or just like Trump praying, you cannot type that into Google?

[Chrissy1979]

14 minutes ago, User said:

Like those who lie about what the inflation rates were when Trump left office like you did?

 

I was referring to the inflation climate he left when he was finally voted out. Inflation doesn't just happen overnight, but when you create an environment of government incompetence and insurrectionist instability, the economy will respond and falter. He created chaos and rapid inflation was one of the results.

[User]

4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I was referring to the inflation climate he left when he was finally voted out. Inflation doesn't just happen overnight, but when you create an environment of government incompetence and insurrectionist instability, the economy will respond and falter. He created chaos and rapid inflation was one of the results.

So, you lie again to cover for your other lie?

You said:

"Data like how inflation was over 9% when Trump left office"

[Chrissy1979]

Whatever. He created the conditions for it to reach that point and Biden fixed his mess. If you were really concerned about lying, you certainly wouldn't be a Trumpster, so I don't feel you have any integrity on that issue anyway. But nitpick away, since that's all you've got. 

[West]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

What a way to twist this. That takes some talent. Are you sure that you are not a politician or aspiring politician? Can you answer my question first... do your relatives have control over what they ingest? if not.. that is sad. 

It's not. 

If in business your product starts killing a bunch of people it gets regulated or taken off the market. 

If you know that your product comes from a faulty plant in Mexico you put in safe guards to stop it. 

Nobody opposes immigration and Trump’s plan is consistent with most western nations. 

[Black Dog]

54 minutes ago, User said:

Calling people who rape and murder, animals, not human, and murderers and rapists is just an accurate statement of fact. 

lmao