Young Canadians left jobless amid influx of cheap foreign workers

[Dougie93]

Just now, Goddess said:

I currently work with 2 Filipino women and there have been problems with them since Day 1.  (I'm not saying this is usual, I'm just sharing my experience.)  They both work under me.  I find them very catty, very over-emotional, very immature.  They are supposed to be "best friends" but they will throw each other under the bus whenever they need to.

There's a lot of crying at work 🙄

I have to walk on eggshells with them all the time and find that when they're asked to do things, they will only do it for a while and then stop and have to be prodded into doing it again.  They make the same mistakes over and over and over and I've sort of come to the conclusion that they don't' really give a shite about doing a good job.

well I will concede that I am not an employee type

I was utterly devoted to serving Elizabeth Windsor, Queen & Empress

but other than that,  I prefer to be my own boss

thus office politics are alien to me

so long as the staff serves my breakfast & coffee at double quick time

politely with a smile

that is mission accomplished from my perspective; Bravo Zulu

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

well I would rather dig trenches for the rain for the King in the infantry

than have to work in the food service industry

I worked retail, which was horrible. Worst ever? Call center. In warranty.

For a discount wholesaler.

Cheap customers are a different breed. They will do anything to save a penny. Common tactic is berating you and angling for a discount.

Everyone who calls you, are unhappy with your products and services. But its amplified, because they always want a discount or freebie from it.

I can't think of anything more miserable.

I heard every threat.

Most creative, was a client calling on their cordless phone. They eventually told me if I didn't knock off 30$, that they would choke me to death with its cord.

I was told I ruined someone's Christmas before, 3 weeks prior.

All over discounts.

If you don't have a sense of humor, you won't survive a job like that.

I would rather have a bus run over my legs twice, than ever go back to such jobs.

[ExFlyer]

21 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

well I will concede that I am not an employee type

I was utterly devoted to serving Elizabeth Windsor, Queen & Empress

but other than that,  I prefer to be my own boss

thus office politics are alien to me

so long as the staff serves my breakfast & coffee at double quick time

politely with a smile

that is mission accomplished from my perspective; Bravo Zulu

Please stop. You are not the employer type maybe, but you were and are always an employee.

You were apart time soldier...not full time and not for a long time either so stop making up shit. LOL

[Dougie93]

17 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

I worked retail, which was horrible. Worst ever? Call center. In warranty.

For a discount wholesaler.

Cheap customers are a different breed. They will do anything to save a penny. Common tactic is berating you and angling for a discount.

Everyone who calls you, are unhappy with your products and services. But its amplified, because they always want a discount or freebie from it.

I can't think of anything more miserable.

I heard every threat.

Most creative, was a client calling on their cordless phone. They eventually told me if I didn't knock off 30$, that they would choke me to death with its cord.

I was told I ruined someone's Christmas before, 3 weeks prior.

All over discounts.

If you don't have a sense of humor, you won't survive a job like that.

I would rather have a bus run over my legs twice, than ever go back to such jobs.

yeah

it's good to do inside/outside sales

because that's just schmoozing for a living

but customer service is a brutal slog

my wife and I worked for the same corporation, before we met

I did sales

she did customer service

 she is still traumatized by the experience, having to do customer service from the call centre

while  my memories of the job are all good, closing deals in the VIP lounge at the clubs over cocktails

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50 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Please stop. You are not the employer type maybe, but you were and are always an employee.

You were apart time soldier...not full time and not for a long time either so stop making up shit. LOL

Do u ever get tired of being a meth junkie who thinks he knows bettervthan anyone else?

[Dougie93]

47 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

You were apart time soldier...not full time

who would have fealty to the Regular Force ?

the Regular Force eats its own, throws its best soldiers under the bus

General Vance : trumped up charges for having a marital affair

Vice Admiral Norman ; arrested and charged for being a whistleblower on the Liberals

Lt. General Whelan ; false charges brought against him for "sexual misconduct"

Maj. General Fortin ; false charges brought against him for "sexual assault"

Vice Admiral MacDonald ; trumped up charges brought against him for "sexual assault"

the Department of National Defence is disloyal in of itself,  executing Stalinist purges on behalf of far left lunatics

you Regular Force types stab each other in the back with alacrity

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

she is still traumatized by the experience, having to do customer service from the call centre

If you work for one of the big phone providers, you will often see rooms in their call centers that look like playgrounds. They look cool, to the unitiated. "Wow, I get to watch movies during lunch?!"

In reality, often women, go there to cry after being verbally abused by a client who literally gets their rocks off from doing this.

If they crossed the line (I worked at a couple), I would be a d*** in return but in a way I could get away with.

"I hope you get hit by a car on your way home!"

Okay, so you're returning the service module or the TV module?

"F*** you! Listen to me! I know where you work!"

Our delivery address is 1234 Main Street. We are open from 9AM to 6PM Monday to Saturday. Anything else I can help you with?

*unintelligible cursing and screaming* 

Sorry, your last name starts with a P for papa? 

Yes I know. I made it worse for others, but the sheer satisfaction made my day.

I had a friend who would make up acronyms to insult customers that only his friends knew:

"My internet won't work"

Can you see a series of lights that..

"Its turned on, I'm not daft!"

Okay. Let me know if you see a black outlet in port 5.

"I don't see any wires. Isn't this wireless?!"

Ah, okay, I think we have an IBD portal issue (I**ot Behind Desk).

I could write a novel on customers I have had. O_o

Probably why I have little hope for humanity, unless we get invaded by aliens.

[ExFlyer]

40 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Do u ever get tired of being a meth junkie who thinks he knows bettervthan anyone else?

Nope but I do know doogie to be a part time short time soldier that defended and defends the actions of torturers and murderers. He has admitted to it.

And here you go again, resorting to lies and insults.

You disagreed with my take o young people and jobs and I have no idea why you became what you are now.

You sure have descended into foolishness in your bitterness.

Remember that where you are was as a consequence of your own bad choices. It is not my or anyone elses fault

 

Edited August 20, 2024 by ExFlyer

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

If you work for one of the big phone providers, you will often see rooms in their call centers that look like playgrounds. They look cool, to the unitiated. "Wow, I get to watch movies during lunch?!"

In reality, often women, go there to cry after being verbally abused by a client who literally gets their rocks off from doing this.

If they crossed the line (I worked at a couple), I would be a d*** in return but in a way I could get away with.

"I hope you get hit by a car on your way home!"

Okay, so you're returning the service module or the TV module?

"F*** you! Listen to me! I know where you work!"

Our delivery address is 1234 Main Street. We are open from 9AM to 6PM Monday to Saturday. Anything else I can help you with?

*unintelligible cursing and screaming* 

Sorry, your last name starts with a P for papa? 

Yes I know. I made it worse for others, but the sheer satisfaction made my day.

I had a friend who would make up acronyms to insult customers that only his friends knew:

"My internet won't work"

Can you see a series of lights that..

"Its turned on, I'm not daft!"

Okay. Let me know if you see a black outlet in port 5.

"I don't see any wires. Isn't this wireless?!"

Ah, okay, I think we have an IBD portal issue (I**ot Behind Desk).

I could write a novel on customers I have had. O_o

Probably why I have little hope for humanity, unless we get invaded by aliens.

if you are on commission

in that you are abiding the customer putting the screws to you for cash money on the table

that is tolerable

but if you are a wage slave employee having to eat shit from the customers for peanuts; not so much

[Goddess]

29 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Do u ever get tired of being a meth junkie who thinks he knows bettervthan anyone else?

 

17 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Probably why I have little hope for humanity, unless we get invaded by aliens.

I have to do a bit of customer service in my current position.  We don't have enough staff and the ones that are here are getting covid continually.  I laugh a lot at how stupid people are.  I'm pretty good at not bringing it home.

People like FakeFlyer and id10t customers, I view as litterbugs, throwing trash around.  Pick it up and throw it in the garbage where it belongs.  Don't let it stick to you.

They clearly have issues that are entirely their own and nothing to do with you.

Edited August 20, 2024 by Goddess

[ExFlyer]

8 minutes ago, Goddess said:

 

I have to do a bit of customer service....

People like FakeFlyer and id10t customers, I view as litterbugs, throwing trash around.  Pick it up and throw it in the garbage where it belongs.  Don't let it stick to you.

They clearly have issues that are entirely their own and nothing to do with you.

Seems the one with issue is yourself. Cannot move on and heaven forbid if someone disagrees with you. Makes you go into full insult Karen mode. Sounds like a physiological problem that requires professional help

Edited August 20, 2024 by ExFlyer

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

r that defended and defends the actions of torturers and murderers. He has admitted to it.

well I was never a member of the Canadian Airborne Regiment

tho I do admit to idolizing them as the best Infantry soldiers in the Army in my youth

thus when it was reported that the Airborne Regiment had committed war crimes on Op Deliverance

I was certainly shocked & dismayed

yet over the years, investigating the incident

I was even more shocked & dismayed to discover

that the Commando had been illegally dosed by someone at DND

with a drug which was not approved for use on humans

because it had been determined to cause hyper paranoia, hyper aggression & psychosis

which seemed to be the most likely cause of the breakdown of discipline at Camp Pegasus

to include the chain of command issuing unlawful orders

to "shoot between the skirts & flip flops"

and "rough the prisoners up"

resulting in the murders of Ahmed Aruush, shot in the back while running away after being baited by food & water

and Shidane Arone, beaten to death by Clayton Matchee who was suffering from psychosis after being drugged

so its not about defending the Airborne Regiment per se, tho I would defend them to the hilt as necessary

it's more about advising Canadians that their government is actually nefarious, not to be trusted

with the caveat that Canadians are only bound to be loyal to HM King, not the Government of Canada

separation of powers,  by the Constitution Act 1982

Pro Patria - Victoria Regina Imperatrix

[ExFlyer]

34 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

what Loyalist wouldn't want to serve as a citizen soldier with the Volunteer Militia Rifles of Canada ?

16 years is not short time, by any military service measure

Dileas

Canadian...no loyalists except to Canada.

16 years part time is short time

Don't start again doogie, you will lose again.

[ExFlyer]

11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

well I was never a member of the Canadian Airborne Regiment

tho I do admit to idolizing them as the best Infantry soldiers in the Army in my youth

thus when it was reported that the Airborne Regiment had committed war crimes on Op Deliverance

I was certainly shocked & dismayed

yet over the years, investigating the incident

I was even more shocked & dismayed to discover

that the Commando had been illegally dosed by someone at DND

with a drug which was not approved for use on humans

because it had been determined to cause hyper paranoia, hyper aggression & psychosis

which seemed to be the most likely cause of the breakdown of discipline at Camp Pegasus

to include the chain of command issuing unlawful orders

to "shoot between the skirts & flip flops"

and "rough the prisoners up"

resulting in the murders of Ahmed Aruush, shot in the back while running away after being baited by food & water

and Shidane Arone, beaten to death by Clayton Matchee who was suffering from psychosis after being drugged

so its not about defending the Airborne Regiment per se, tho I would defend them to the hilt as necessary

it's more about advising Canadians that their government is actually nefarious, not to be trusted

with the caveat that Canadians are only bound to be loyal to HM King, not the Government of Canada

separation of powers,  by the Constitution Act 1982

Pro Patria - Victoria Regina Imperatrix

Backpedalling as fast as you can eh doogie.

You spent post after post after post defending matchee and brown and the brutality of the airborne regiment which had to be disbanded for their failure and brutality while peacekeeping

Sorry to this thread for going off topic but a groupie of murderers and torturers has to be called out...again.

Edited August 20, 2024 by ExFlyer

[cannuck]

What seems impossible to understand is why so many people worship at the temple of endless growth.   The Liberal fascination with foreign workers and foreign people completely ignores the culture that is unique to each source country.  The one causing so much trouble in trucking, for instance is a place where the truth and any semblance of ethics exist only on a "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" basis.  I have tried to do business in several of the "problem" countries and life in those places is based upon corruption, deceipt and privilege.   Is THAT what "we" want Canada to become?

Listening to the news media, the problem is now at the feet of 15-24 year olds who would like to enter the workforce - only to find a guest worker or new immigrant - usually COMPLETELY unfamiliar with the marketplace in which they work taking those jobs (probably at rock bottom prices).   Go to any hospitality business, trucking company, government agency, medical or financial institution and you will be hard pressed to find a single native borne Canadian.  We are not only destroying our culture but our economy as well.   But: it will have more Liberal voters, so I guess fait accompli.

[Dougie93]

18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Backpedalling as fast as you can eh doogie.

You spent post after post after post defending matchee and brown and the brutality of the airborne regiment which had to be disbanded for their failure and brutality while peacekeeping

Sorry to this thread for going off topic but a groupie of murderers and torturers has to be called out...again.

well at first,  I did blame Matchee & Brown

the army was being pilloried in a moral panic

and the Liberal Party of Canada of course was exploiting the opportunity to run the army down

it was actually only years later that I discovered

that the Government of Canada had illegally administrated a drug to the Airborne Regiment

which caused hyper paranoia, hyper aggression & psychosis

thus explaining the whole slew of bizarre incidents that had occurred at Camp Pegasus

tho it wasn't actually Peacekeepong

there was no UN Mandate in Somalia

it was a bilateral American - Canadian operation under a United Task Force ( UNITAF ) Command

[taxme]

On 8/14/2024 at 11:42 AM, CdnFox said:

Young Canadians left jobless amid influx of foreign workers | Financial Post

Youth unemployment at highest level in over a decade outside of COVID-19 pandemic

 

Entry-level jobs for students and recent graduates are much harder to find as the economy weakens, yet the country has also imported hundreds of thousands of temporary foreign workers for jobs, many of them in the food and retail sectors.

That’s contributing to a soaring rate of youth unemployment. Two years ago, the jobless rate for people 15 to 24 years old was a little over nine per cent. Now it’s 14.2 per cent — the highest level in more than a decade outside of the COVID-19 pandemic.

An analysis of government data by Bloomberg News shows explosive growth in the number of temporary foreign workers in food and retail over the past five years. The number of them approved to work in those two sectors jumped 211 per cent between 2019 and 2023.

As the old saying goes? It's immigration, stupid. 😇

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

if you are on commission

in that you are abiding the customer putting the screws to you for cash money on the table

that is tolerable

but if you are a wage slave employee having to eat shit from the customers for peanuts; not so much

Working at a call center, you got commission for your sales, but it truly didn't make sense based on the volume of abuse.

Retail or something like vacuum sales, you could definitely make tons of money if you were good at talking to and dealing with people.

[ExFlyer]

15 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada has been overrun by far left wing lunatics

rendering Canada i

 

 

15 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

well at first,  I did blame Matchee & Brown

tho it wasn't actually Peacekeepong

 

it was a bilateral American - Canadian operation under a United Task Force ( UNITAF ) Command

No doogie, you worshipped them and the Airborne....best soldiers that you idolized when you ere a chil (as you said)  etc etc.

doogie, i recommend you leave this go. You will lose.

And back to Young People Jobless. There are jobs and blaming immigrants or foreign workers for taking those jobs, well, that is the problem of the job seekers themselves. Why are the immigrants and foreign folks getting those jobs?? The salaries are being offered to everyone applying. Maybe out young people believe the work is beneath them?.

Edited August 21, 2024 by ExFlyer

[I am Groot]

On 8/20/2024 at 1:53 PM, ExFlyer said:

I do, that is why I asked you the questions. ...several times. Making statements mean nothing so:

Again, you need to read what I wrote. I don't mean read things into it, but simply what I stated.

Edited August 22, 2024 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

On 8/20/2024 at 1:06 PM, Perspektiv said:

Or just look elsewhere (foreign workers, students with work visas, etc), and stabilize the rate you pay them to reasonable levels.

Yeah, I would make that illegal. So would most Canadians. We don't want employers being able to bring in labour from outside Canada except in exceptional and limited circumstances. Nor do we need them.

 

On 8/20/2024 at 1:06 PM, Perspektiv said:

Not sure what the incentive would be to go back.

I don't expect to convince employers to want to hire Canadians over cheap, biddable foreign labour. I expect the government which represents Canadians to simply forbid it as being not in the nation's interests. 

On 8/20/2024 at 1:06 PM, Perspektiv said:

Many didn't, because they pivoted rapidly. 

Is that what you call it? I'm sorry, but i disagree. Figuring out how to get more out of fewer people, using better methodologies, more technology, that is the way you expand production. Not hiring foreign migrants.

You have to understand that nothing you do is important to this country and its economy. The only use your entire industry serves is in employing Canadians. If you're not going to do that then you serve no purpose whatsoever. 

 

Edited August 21, 2024 by I am Groot

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

If you're not going to do that then you serve no purpose whatsoever. 

Other than serving Canadians. Providing to the community, charitable causes, as do many other businesses. 

Most my suppliers are Canadians, and many small businesses buy local. 

If the right skillset isn't available, then you source it from where it is.

If I hire you at 25 an hour, and get apathetic and lazy performance, and can hire a newcomer for the same rate, and get a high standard and someone happy to go the extra mile. 

Again, I am serving my community. Why would I want to damage my business' reputation by hiring people unfit to do the job.

Makes no sense.

The demand was created by people, but now employers found alternatives and they are crying foul?

I told a lot of clients back then, whe  the market stabilized, all those who milked the system during covid would be kicking themselves.

Imagine, I has dozens ghost me, reapply when I made the salary well above the market top end. Like I don't have a database or use metrics to see all the jobs you applied for, before.

I feel zero sympathy. 

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On 8/20/2024 at 5:03 PM, taxme said:

As the old saying goes? It's immigration, stupid. 😇

You can say that again, taxme.

When the Canadian economy grows 1.7% a year, but our population increases by  4.1% that is a NET LOSS of 2.4% in terms of employment. I am sick and tired of the Liberal spin machine, stating this is helping our economy out.

 

It's not.

[NAME REMOVED]

On 8/20/2024 at 5:32 PM, ExFlyer said:

 

And back to Young People Jobless. There are jobs and blaming immigrants or foreign workers for taking those jobs, well, that is the problem of the job seekers themselves. Why are the immigrants and foreign folks getting those jobs?? The salaries are being offered to everyone applying. Maybe out young people believe the work is beneath them?.

It's not the fault of immigrants. They only want a better life for themselves. It's the Government's fault, knowing full well that these new Canadians are used to working for pennies a day, and minimum wage is a dream come true, compared to their respective countries wages.

So not knowing anything about Canadian labour laws or rights, they work like slaves, work when sick, do not stick up for themselves, and are so grateful for their job that they would get a McDonald's tattoo on their back, if asked.

And left wing fools like @ExFlyer expect native Canadians to be able to compete with this? 

Edited August 22, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

When the Canadian economy grows 1.7% a year, but our population increases by  4.1% that is a NET LOSS of 2.4% in terms of employment.

Well.... no, that doesn't automatically follow.  Some will be children not of working age, some will be old and past working age, and many come with the funds to start a business and actually add to employment right away (that was a huge program in richmond bc in the late 90's - bring 500 grand and start a business and get pushed to the front of the immigration line). 

Also their presence does create jobs, someone's got to provide goods and services to them. 

But - while you may be wrong on the math, you're not wrong on the sentiment.  In a slowing economy specifically as we have now, excess immigration produces higher unemployment especially in the lower earning sectors.