Biden Trumps Trump

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But we KNOW that Vladim was a murderer who killed people for the gov't.

I honestly never heard of the guy, I haven't followed the story that closely, but it doesn't surprise me that the Dems let a guy like that out if he just promised to attend the next set of BLM riots.

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We know that most of the others committed real crimes, many serious. 

How many people did they let out for 3 Americans? Was it more than just 3?

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I'm just not sure that sending the message "hey if you go commit murder on behalf of our gov't and get caught we'll just corral some innocent people and do  a swap" is the message we want to be sending. 

Agreed.

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I preferred our 'no negotiation with terrorists' attitude. 

I know that Trump wouldn't have signed a deal with his pants down around his ankles like that. 

Edited August 4, 2024 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I honestly never heard of the guy, I haven't followed the story that closely, but it doesn't surprise me that the Dems let a guy like that out if he just promised to attend the next set of BLM riots.. 

 

 

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How many people did they let out for 3 Americans? Was it more than just 3?

Yes - technically the us got back 3 and released 8, but other countries also got some back and released some so it gets a little complex.

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Agreed.

I mean it's not like this is the first deal of it's kind, and maybe it's necessary for some reasons but i just think it's really questionable to call it a 'victory'. 

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I know that Trump wouldn't have signed a deal with his pants down around his ankles like that

Well he did do a sort of similar deal back in his day and it wasn't nearly so one sided as near as i can see 

 

I did love that when they asked biden "what do you say to trump when he said he could do it better", he replied "then why didn't he when he was president?"  BECAUSE THOSE PEOPEL WERENT" ARRESTED WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT! Ya twit! 

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WEREN'T ARRESTED YET WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT! Ya twit! 

🤣 

Talk about putting the cart before the horse... "He should got them out before they went to jail! Then they wouldn't 'a needed to go there!"  

[Deluge]

On 8/2/2024 at 3:32 PM, herbie said:

Stole his thunder with the prisoner exchange that The Don Old claimed he would do before even being elected.
Biden did it, not him.

Don Old must be stewing in his own shit over that.

I don't know why you dipsh*ts keep making those stupid assed old guy jokes; Trump's a 40 year old compared to ol' grampa pedophile. lol

 

Edited August 5, 2024 by Deluge

[herbie]

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

compared to ol' grampa pedophile. lol

DonOld's the textbook Grampa pedo, check Epstien's flight lists. The hooker hiring, cheat on the wife, **** grabbing rapist, convicted criminal fraud by fact.

Not that your dumber than pig shit opinion isn't shared by millions of demented cultists.,

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, herbie said:

DonOld's the textbook Grampa pedo, check Epstien's flight lists. The hooker hiring, cheat on the wife, **** grabbing rapist, convicted criminal fraud by fact.

Not that your dumber than pig shit opinion isn't shared by millions of demented cultists.,

You misspelled "biden".  Btw - that guy you said was perfectly sane? He's just told reporters when asked what he wants his legacy to be to gen-z that he wants his legacy to be "that he cured the economy. and the environment, and a few other small things".   This was a day or two before the stock market collapsing to signal a recession.  

Biden said he 'cured the economy' days before recession fears spark market selloff (msn.com)

This is the guy YOU felt was NOT too old and was perfectly fine to run the show.  He's still running the show btw. 

Also snifs children and showers inappropriately with his daughter. 

SO you've kind have set that bar WAAAAAY to high.   

[Deluge]

51 minutes ago, herbie said:

DonOld's the textbook Grampa pedo, check Epstien's flight lists. The hooker hiring, cheat on the wife, **** grabbing rapist, convicted criminal fraud by fact.

Not that your dumber than pig shit opinion isn't shared by millions of demented cultists.,

Link your sources, goat worship, or it never happened.

Of course, we all know you cultists are full of diaper shit, but you may as well link up anyways so that we all can have a good laugh at you and your sources.  

 

[herbie]

No I won't link my sources or we'd use the entire site's bandwidth allotment.
YOU pick up a newspaper or turn on a TV or radio for something other than Fox News.

Or inject some Braino and clear that blockage. Rub Exlax directly on the forehead.

[CdnFox]

54 minutes ago, herbie said:

No I won't link my sources or we'd use the entire site's bandwidth allotment.

Don't tell me you're directly connected to the democrat;s bullshit generation machine?

[Rebound]

On 8/2/2024 at 10:40 PM, WestCanMan said:

Isn't it pathetic that the only reason this got done was because Trump put the heat on?

The BC gov't just did the same thing. This week they finally lifted the pandemic restrictions on hospital employees, allowing unvaccinated health care workers to come back to work, and that only happened now because their opponents in the October election vowed to do that exact thing.

Well then why didn’t Trump get Whelan and others released while he was President?  Whelan was imprisoned back when Fat Orange Fartface was President.  

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Well then why didn’t Trump get Whelan and others released while he was President?

Because they weren't in jail yet - or had just been sentenced.  There was no time 

Whelan didn't get sentenced till 2020 so there was no chance to even discuss his release prior to that 

Even and gershu weren't even arrested till 2023 and 2022 respectively 

So your question would seem to be "Why didn't trump get them out of jail before they went to jail".

Well...  it's like this, see....... 

[User]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Well then why didn’t Trump get Whelan and others released while he was President?  Whelan was imprisoned back when Fat Orange Fartface was President.  

It is incredible how disingenuous you are. 

Trump was working to free him but it ran into his election and at the time the thought was Russia was not going to just give Trump a big win (so much for Putin loves Trump) that close to an election and Russia was demanding very high level trades for him. 

To Trumps credit, he didn't just give Russia everything they wanted like Biden did, just before an election... 

 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Well then why didn’t Trump get Whelan and others released while he was President?  Whelan was imprisoned back when Fat Orange Fartface was President.  

Whelan was imprisoned in Dec 2018, so basically the start of 2019. 

He "loaned" a member of Russia's Federal Security Service $1,100 and claimed it was for his brother's wedding.

It would be a little much to think that he could get out of jail right after he went in, and Trump was only president for two years after that. 

Do you think that Russians who end up in US prisons can be let out right away? 

[CdnFox]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Whelan was imprisoned in Dec 2018, so basically the start of 2019. 

He "loaned" a member of Russia's Federal Security Service $1,100 and claimed it was for his brother's wedding.

It would be a little much to think that he could get out of jail right after he went in, and Trump was only president for two years after that. 

Do you think that Russians who end up in US prisons can be let out right away? 

Well for sure - first off he might have committed a serious crime for all the us knew. It wasn't till 2020 that he was covicted after a trial and the us authorities determined that he was being held unjustly and the trial was a sham. 

So right up till that point they wouldn't have tried to get him back. They don't just automatically ask for anyone accused of a crime. 

There was no way trump could have done anything.  And the other two hadn't even been arrested by the time he left office 

Kind of odd they'd even ask the question. 

[Rebound]

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Whelan was imprisoned in Dec 2018, so basically the start of 2019. 

He "loaned" a member of Russia's Federal Security Service $1,100 and claimed it was for his brother's wedding.

It would be a little much to think that he could get out of jail right after he went in, and Trump was only president for two years after that. 

Do you think that Russians who end up in US prisons can be let out right away? 

“Only two years.”

FDR won WW II in under four years, start to surrender.  Trump couldn’t get one guy out of jail in two years.  Tell me how competent he isn’t. 

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, Rebound said:

“Only two years.”

 

Don't be a doof..  Biden took four years himself. 

And he coudln't start till the guy was convicted. Russians arrest lots of ACTUAL criminals, you have to see the trial and evidence before you can say whether the person was wrongfully convicted or not  And that didnt happen til 2020. 

IF you're saying 2 years is wayyyy too long, why did it take biden 4?

[Rebound]

52 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Don't be a doof..  Biden took four years himself. 

And he coudln't start till the guy was convicted. Russians arrest lots of ACTUAL criminals, you have to see the trial and evidence before you can say whether the person was wrongfully convicted or not  And that didnt happen til 2020. 

IF you're saying 2 years is wayyyy too long, why did it take biden 4?

No no no…. It was a BIG DEAL to Trump!  It was SO IMPORTANT!  Trump said so. 
 

But it was Biden who got it done. Trump didn’t get shlt done.  The Dow was 20,000 under Trump and hit 42,000 under Biden. Every time the stock market went up, Trump took credit for it. Every time. So doubling under Biden is because of Biden.  That’s the Trump Rule. So America isn’t destroyed at all under Biden, it’s doing twice as well. 
 

Edited August 6, 2024 by Rebound

[User]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

“Only two years.”

FDR won WW II in under four years, start to surrender.  Trump couldn’t get one guy out of jail in two years.  Tell me how competent he isn’t. 

Are you cowardly hiding from me too?

 

[eyeball]

On 8/3/2024 at 10:50 AM, User said:

Oh yeah, great. Good to have them back, but at what cost?

Russia takes innocent people on trumped-up charges, and we give them $$$, murderers, spies, and criminals in return. 

Because the US lacks the courage of its convictions and won't retaliate more aggressively. How can it help but cave to dictators when its created, supported and nurtured so many of them around the world?

70% of humanity are under the thumbs of these bastards now.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

No no no…. It was a BIG DEAL to Trump!  It was SO IMPORTANT!  Trump said so. 
 

I'm sure it was but he wasn't the president when it all went down.  ONE of them was convicted a few months before trump was out of power, and the others weren't even arrested till biden was in charge. 

"C'mon dude - nobody's saying you're in any danger of winning a nobel prize for science but even YOU have to realize that it's not possible for trump to negotiate the release of people arrested AFTER he was president  

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But it was Biden who got it done

Sure.  He was president while it was happening.  Again - two of them weren't even arrested until 2 years AFTER trump left office, never mind convicted. And the third was convicted a month or so before he left office. 

Seriously - i'm sure if you try hard you can find enough LEGITIMATE things to try to say about trump without resorting to such fakery as demanding he should have secured the release of people who hadn't even been arrested yet while he was president    Give your head a shake. 

[CouchPotato]

37 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He was president while it was happening.  Again - two of them weren't even arrested until 2 years AFTER trump left office, never mind convicted. And the third was convicted a month or so before he left office. 

Ummm ok.. you keep saying that, but why didn't Trump get them out when he was president? 🤪

Edited August 6, 2024 by CouchPotato

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

Ummm ok.. you keep saying that, but why didn't Trump get them out when he was president? 🤪

Urge....to....murder.... rising......

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, Rebound said:

No no no…. It was a BIG DEAL to Trump!  It was SO IMPORTANT!  Trump said so. 

After the trial, stupid.

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The Dow was 20,000 under Trump and hit 42,000 under Biden. Every time the stock market went up, Trump took credit for it. Every time. So doubling under Biden is because of Biden.  That’s the Trump Rule. So America isn’t destroyed at all under Biden, it’s doing twice as well. 

From Oct 2014 to Nov 2016 the Dow was stuck, hovering in the 17,000-18,000 range.

In the next two years it went up to 26.8. That's basically 50% higher than ever before, in just two years.

Despite the fact that the US was in the middle of a pandemic, which had dropped it by over 10,000 points briefly, Trump still turned the Dow over to Biden at 30,391 you m0r0nic liar, not 20k. Also, the Dow never hit 42K. All you do is lie.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart

 

Edited August 6, 2024 by WestCanMan