The Democrat Party has become a lie machine. What a degradation!

[Reg Volk]

15 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

It was poorly articulated. The point is he isn't just paying for it. He makes money. He is not supporting a certain cause. And he is not running for office--- presumably??

I mean you can argue about Harris' views on bail reform. I don't think that has any relationship as to why she donated to the Minnesota non-profit. What she did here was to support a fund bailing out a left wing group of protestors. She has every right to. Maybe you even think it is a good thing. A lot of people might not.

If Pierre Poilievre were to, let's say, provide some sort of financial support to the legal benefit of people from the freedom convoy, this would become a Liberal talking point overnight.

what you have to understand though is that in the "minds" of these left-leaning people, BLM is still "good", and convoy people "bad".  This after the founders of Burn Loot Murder stole all the money donated to their cause, mostly from gullible white liberals, and bought themselves giant mansions.  But that didn't stop politicians from making complete arses of themselves in 2020, like this complete clown:

[herbie]

1 hour ago, Reg Volk said:

what you have to understand though is that in the "minds" of these SANE people, BLM is still "good", and convoy people "bad".  This after the founders of Burn Loot Murder stole all the money donated to their cause, mostly from gullible white liberals

FTFY
Obviously you "heard" that Black Lives Matter means yours doesn't from those who think it has a Board of Directors and charitable status too.
And maple leafed Jan 6'ers who haven't a clue how govt works let alone gain public support protesting they couldn't get back from a place they couldn't get into are the "wise ones".

Yeah, sane people are all lefties.

[Reg Volk]

10 minutes ago, herbie said:

FTFY
Obviously you "heard" that Black Lives Matter means yours doesn't from those who think it has a Board of Directors and charitable status too.
And maple leafed Jan 6'ers who haven't a clue how govt works let alone gain public support protesting they couldn't get back from a place they couldn't get into are the "wise ones".

Yeah, sane people are all lefties.

LOL - nope, you're not sane at all.  You're a bunch of gullible dupes, who can be relied upon to fall for the dumbest crap, no matter what it is.  The fact you were all so easily suckered by the big lie and cover up about Biden's dementia is one thing, but also how reliable you all are to fall for anything that can be spun to the negative about Trump.  You believe it, unquestioningly.  Just total NPC's who "repeat after me" on everything they are told by the MSM, the Liberals, and the Democrats.

Kamala has to wear the shame of supporting Burn Loot Murder in 2020 and for helping expedite the release of dangerous criminals in Minnesota, many of whom went out and almost immediately re-offended.  Soft on crime, soft in the head, Kamala is awful.

[Hodad]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

An illegal alien should not be out on bail...any of these illegals wind up on court, need to be deported. That falls to the FA and the judge.

I suspect you know that too and thus try to redirect responsibility to a simple bail bondsman.

Lame...

 

Why are you even talking about illegal aliens? Nothing to do with any of this. 

And, FFS, I'm not the one trying to blame the bondsman. That's what YOU are doing when you want to slag Harris for this.

The courts determine eligibility for bail. If a person commits a crime while on bail it's not the bondsman's fault. It's not the bail fund's fault. And it certainly isn't Kamala Harris' fault for tweeting support of the bail fund once. 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Why are you even talking about illegal aliens? Nothing to do with any of this. 

And, FFS, I'm not the one trying to blame the bondsman. That's what YOU are doing when you want to slag Harris for this.

The courts determine eligibility for bail. If a person commits a crime while on bail it's not the bondsman's fault. It's not the bail fund's fault. And it certainly isn't Kamala Harris' fault for tweeting support of the bail fund once. 

If you put money up for someone's bail, and they get out and committ a crime - then yes you absolutely do wear that.  It doesnt' make you responsible for the crime but it does make you responsible for putting the person in the position to commit one. 

You may not like that  but that's a simple truth. 

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Hodad said:

As always, you are dishonest. It was not a "bail fund to get rioters back on the streets." It's just a bail fund. People accused of all kinds of things, large and small, can receive bail. It exists to protest the preposterous notion that a cash bail system represents any kind of justice. And in Harris's case, she explicitly promoted the fund to support protestors, not "rioters." 

As always, you are being dishonest and accusing someone else of it.

• We all know that the Senator from CALIFORNIA wasn't just randomly advocating for a MINNESOTA BAIL FUND just to get run-of-the-mill violent criminals back on the streets of Minnesota. 
• The senator from California was trying to get violent rioters back on the streets of Minnesota.

You can decide for yourself whether or not it was a bonus that the money she helped raise went towards bailing out random rapists and murderers as well. I don't really understand all of the various malfunctions of the leftard "brain" yet.

Can you imagine if a Texas senator just randomly started advocating for a bail fund to get criminals back on the street in California? 

 

Is your final answer really gonna be: "THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA WAS SOLICITING (again?) DONATIONS FOR A MINNESOTA BAIL FUND TO GET RANDOM VIOLENT CRIMINALS BACK ON THE STREETS IN MINNESOTA"?

Can you type that out in your own words Hodad? I wanna see you write that stupid shit down all by yourself, I don't wanna just explain to you what your own stupid words mean. 

Edited August 2, 2024 by WestCanMan

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

It was poorly articulated. The point is he isn't just paying for it. He makes money. He is not supporting a certain cause. And he is not running for office--- presumably??

I mean you can argue about Harris' views on bail reform. I don't think that has any relationship as to why she donated to the Minnesota non-profit. What she did here was to support a fund bailing out a left wing group of protestors. She has every right to. Maybe you even think it is a good thing. A lot of people might not.

If Pierre Poilievre were to, let's say, provide some sort of financial support to the legal benefit of people from the freedom convoy, this would become a Liberal talking point overnight.

Yep, if you were lucky enough to get bail through a bail fund, you wouldn't have to pay the service fee. That's the sole difference. The money, when returned by the state, goes right back into the fund. No one is "paying for it." It's sort of held in escrow until the court case is over. 

And people are totally welcome to debate the bail system or disagree with Harris about the bail system. Where you guys (lead by Trump, of course) is the implication that Harris tweeting in support of protestors and the bail fund resulted in a murder. He's trying to tie those events together in a bogus Willie Horton style.

But that's exactly as stupid as blaming a bail bondsman if a person granted bail commits a crime. The party putting up the bond (for-profit org, non-profit org or private) didn't have anything to do with eligibility for bail, nor with the subsequent crime. 

[Hodad]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

As always, you are being dishonest and accusing someone else of it.

• We all know that the Senator from CALIFORNIA wasn't just randomly advocating for a MINNESOTA BAIL FUND just to get run-of-the-mill violent criminals back on the streets of Minnesota. 
• The senator from California was trying to get violent rioters back on the streets of Minnesota.

You can decide for yourself whether or not it was a bonus that the money she helped raise went towards bailing out random rapists and murderers as well. I don't really understand all of the various malfunctions of the leftard "brain" yet.

Can you imagine if a Texas senator just randomly started advocating for a bail fund to get criminals back on the street in California? 

 

Is your final answer really gonna be: "THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA WAS SOLICITING (again?) DONATIONS FOR A MINNESOTA BAIL FUND TO GET RANDOM VIOLENT CRIMINALS BACK ON THE STREETS IN MINNESOTA"?

Can you type that out in your own words Hodad? I wanna see you write that stupid shit down all by yourself, I don't wanna just explain to you what your own stupid words mean. 

Holy crap. You are responding to a post that is crystal clear. Just read it. Or, failing that, find a 5th grader and ask them to explain it to you. 

Edited August 2, 2024 by Hodad

[CouchPotato]

48 minutes ago, Hodad said:

But that's exactly as stupid as blaming a bail bondsman if a person granted bail commits a crime. The party putting up the bond (for-profit org, non-profit org or private) didn't have anything to do with eligibility for bail, nor with the subsequent crime. 

No, I think comparing a politician to a bail bondsman is not appropriate. One is a businessman. The other is someone who campaigning is to be a public servant. You would hold the latter to a higher standard.

You don't even need a subsequent crime to make this an area of concern for people. It has nothing to do with her views on bail reform. She was not supporting just any poor random fools who could not afford bail. She was supporting a group that was bailing out people from a left wing protest.

If Poilievre were to have done something similar with the freedom convoy, this would become an immediate talking point from the Liberal party.

In one sense, it may be dumb to blame her for the subsequent crime, but politicians have to wear this sort of thing all the time. You don't think a Republican would have to wear something like this?

Edited August 3, 2024 by CouchPotato

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

FTFY
Obviously you "heard" that Black Lives Matter means yours doesn't from those who think it has a Board of Directors and charitable status too.
And maple leafed Jan 6'ers who haven't a clue how govt works let alone gain public support protesting they couldn't get back from a place they couldn't get into are the "wise ones".

Yeah, sane people are all lefties.

Don't try to pigeon-hole every conservative into having all of the exact same opinions about BLM. We're not like leftards who get all of our marching orders from DNC central and instantly adopt them as our new beliefs. 

FYI BLM had actual leaders ("trained Marxists", no less) who carefully edited videos to incite riots, and everything that they said really mattered to the leftard cultist dolts. What they said was gospel truth to you for half of 2014, all of 2015, all of 2016, the early part of 2017 and summer 2020.

FFS herbie, you should read up on the people who you're taking orders from in the future, little dummy. 

[herbie]

Trained Marxists were they? Degrees from Lenin University deep in the heart of your sick mind I suppose.

BTW my 11 yr old nephew "edits movies", you can do that with computers that cost more than $399 if you're elitist enough to know how.

So after multiple posts of deflection, you still haven't given incidence of a Democrat lie.

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, herbie said:

Trained Marxists were they?

That actually is what they say. In an interview one of the two girls who started it stated that they were trained marxists. Her words.

You should give her a call and tell her how funny you found it

Edited August 3, 2024 by CdnFox

[WestCanMan]

50 minutes ago, herbie said:

Trained Marxists were they?

They're the ones who said it, I'm just quoting them, dummy. 

Like I said, you should get to know your owners a bit better.

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Degrees from Lenin University deep in the heart of your sick mind I suppose.

You're the one who has to believe it, not me. Again, I'm just quoting their website.

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BTW my 11 yr old nephew "edits movies", you can do that with computers that cost more than $399 if you're elitist enough to know how.

And no doubt he does it well enough to control the leftard cult. 

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So after multiple posts of deflection, you still haven't given incidence of a Democrat lie.

I've given dozens, but they're not listed as 'lies' in your cultist handbook, so to you they remain gospel. 

[WestCanMan]

49 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That actually is what they say. In an interview one of the two girls who started it stated that they were trained marxists. Her words.

You should give her a call and tell her how funny you found it

The little dummy just told me that I haven't cited a Dmi lie yet.

I'll take that to mean that he still believes in 'gentle giants', mostly peaceful protests, California senator Kamala Harris didn't pimp a Minnesota bail fund to get rioters back on the streets, Trayvon was just out getting Skittles when he got shot, Jussie was almost lynched, Russian collusion is about to be proven any minute, Trump referred to immigrants as animals, the jabs are safe and effective, there was a 'pandemic of the unvaccinated', inflation was at zero in July 2022, inflation is caused by 'price gouging', Trump never tried to stop the almost entirely peaceful & joyous celebration of democracy on J6th, Cuomo was a covid hero, the Afghan withdrawal was a success, Benghazi just started because of a video, the GOP are election cheaters and the dems aren't, etc...

I mean, it's possible that he's stupid enough to believe all that, it's just sad. 

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

In December 2015 Black Lives Matter sent a delegation...

You know way too much about those commie rejects. Give your brain a rest, they're not worth it.

[CouchPotato]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

You know way too much about those commie rejects. Give your brain a rest, they're not worth it.

That was a snippet from an article. Not me. I should have put it in quotes.

[CouchPotato]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Trained Marxists were they? Degrees from Lenin University deep in the heart of your sick mind I suppose.

As WestCanMan and CdnFox have pointed out one of their founders openly claimed they were Marxists. Also....

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In December 2015 Black Lives Matter sent a delegation, headed by the organization’s co-founder, Opal Tometi, to act as observers during the Venezuelan Parliamentary elections of that year. The Maduro regime did not allow accreditation for observers from the Organization of American States, the UN, or the EU. The only accredited observers where from regimes and organizations friendly to the “revolutionary cause.”

Later that same month Tometi penned an article where she espouses, word for word, the regime’s standard text for international propaganda. “In these last 17 years, we have witnessed the Bolivarian Revolution champion participatory democracy and construct a fair, transparent election system recognized as among the best in the world ,” wrote Tometi about one of the world’s most corrupt voting systems in history.

Earlier in 2015 Maduro was given an award at the “Afro-descendants Summit” held in Harlem. Maduro was invited at the behest of the Black Lives Matter leadership.

https://en.panampost.com/panam-staff/2020/06/23/the-links-between-black-lives-matter-and-nicolas-maduro-revealed/

Black Lives Matter is a radical organization. There is more to BLM than a nice name which is designed to make you feel obligated to agree with them.

Edited August 3, 2024 by CouchPotato

[herbie]

So they said. As they "claim" to be BLM Inc.

And as per usual, deflect to something that has sweet f*ck all with Democrats being liars.

Make you a deal, I'll stop calling MAGAs stupid. They seem to take it as a challenge.

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

So they said. As they "claim" to be BLM Inc.

They are "BLM inc" you f'ing m0r0n. Their website was the one editing the videos to start all the rioting. 

Again, get to know your owners. 

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And as per usual, deflect to something that has sweet f*ck all with Democrats being liars.

This does: 'gentle giants', mostly peaceful protests, California senator Kamala Harris didn't pimp a Minnesota bail fund to get rioters back on the streets, Trayvon was just out getting Skittles when he got shot, Jussie was almost lynched, Russian collusion is about to be proven any minute, Trump referred to immigrants as animals, the jabs are safe and effective, there was a 'pandemic of the unvaccinated', inflation was at zero in July 2022, inflation is caused by 'price gouging', Trump never tried to stop the almost entirely peaceful & joyous celebration of democracy on J6th, Cuomo was a covid hero, the Afghan withdrawal was a success, Benghazi just started because of a video, the GOP are election cheaters and the dems aren't, etc...

Do you still think that all the things they said about ^that^ stuff was true? 🤣

Honestly, I'll believe you if you say "yes", because that's how little I think of you. 

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Make you a deal, I'll stop calling MAGAs stupid. 

When you call other people stupid you're doing them a favour. Please don't stop. 

(I'll explain what I mean by that to you, because you'd never figure it out by yourself: it means that when a blatant low-IQ skid like you denigrates someone else, you're actually proving the opposite of what you say)

[CouchPotato]

16 minutes ago, herbie said:

And as per usual, deflect to something that has sweet f*ck all with Democrats being liars.

The thread itself had veered in that direction because of the little tangents we tend to go off on in these threads. You participated in this tangent yourself.

As for lies, I think over the past few years we have witnessed one of the most surreal lies I have ever seen. It was plainly obvious for a few years that Joe Biden was suffering some type of dementia. People have been calling it out, but media outlets like CNN, MSNBC, CBC, etc ignored the big elephant in the room. The people around Biden all denied it.

Here is a video from 3 years ago.

[herbie]

You think not publicizing what you want to be real is a lie? Ignoring the while the ravings of a true madman that speaks nothing but lies?

Keep it up defending a pervert criminal liar. Tape a maxipad over your ear. c'mon show us you're a True Believer.

[CouchPotato]

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

You think not publicizing what you want to be real is a lie? Ignoring the while the ravings of a true madman that speaks nothing but lies?

Keep it up defending a pervert criminal liar. Tape a maxipad over your ear. c'mon show us you're a True Believer.

Were Democrats lying when they said Joe was fine for years or just stupid, herbie? Which is it?

Edited August 3, 2024 by CouchPotato

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

Why are you even talking about illegal aliens? Nothing to do with any of this. 

And, FFS, I'm not the one trying to blame the bondsman. That's what YOU are doing when you want to slag Harris for this.

The courts determine eligibility for bail. If a person commits a crime while on bail it's not the bondsman's fault. It's not the bail fund's fault. And it certainly isn't Kamala Harris' fault for tweeting support of the bail fund once. 

Nice try tweenkle-toes but you can't warp this with me.

Libbie DAs and judges are responsible for the mess and Kamala supports the crap.!

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The little dummy just told me that I haven't cited a Dmi lie yet.

I'll take that to mean that he still believes in 'gentle giants', mostly peaceful protests, California senator Kamala Harris didn't pimp a Minnesota bail fund to get rioters back on the streets, Trayvon was just out getting Skittles when he got shot, Jussie was almost lynched, Russian collusion is about to be proven any minute, Trump referred to immigrants as animals, the jabs are safe and effective, there was a 'pandemic of the unvaccinated', inflation was at zero in July 2022, inflation is caused by 'price gouging', Trump never tried to stop the almost entirely peaceful & joyous celebration of democracy on J6th, Cuomo was a covid hero, the Afghan withdrawal was a success, Benghazi just started because of a video, the GOP are election cheaters and the dems aren't, etc...

I mean, it's possible that he's stupid enough to believe all that, it's just sad. 

But what about the tooth fairy? The tooth fairy is real tho right? They didn't lie to me about that right?     

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

But what about the tooth fairy? The tooth fairy is real tho right? They didn't lie to me about that right?     

The tooth fairy isn't giving any money for his meth-strangled teeth.