Its official - the shooter was a democrat.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

Projecting again, huh. Comes as easy to you as lying.

That wasn't your argument before. Your argument was, and I quote, "if they're not affliated [sic] with a nazi party they're not a nazi."  End of.

And that's a shitty strawman argument. I didn't call anyone a Nazi just because I don't like them. I called them nazis because they believe the same or similar things as the Nazis, a view you were against before you were for it.

Yeah because it's a retarded argument from a retarded individual.

Again, your argument was that it does not matter if someone is in favour of  the same policies as the Nazis or approves of what they did. Indeed, you explicitly rejected the idea of sharing Nazi ideology being sufficient to label someone a Nazi.

"if they're not affliated [sic] with a nazi party they're not a nazi." 

The backpedalling here is really something, you busted b!tch.

LOL - still melting down are ya   well, guess i'd be butt hurt too if i looked that dumb  

And as you can see above several posts ago i specifically at his request stopped referring to him as a nazi and corrected it to a nsdap supporter after the fact acknowledging that the party no longer exists and that he only WOULD have supported them or supports them in emeritus so to speak. 

So .... you kinda kept right on arguing after i'd already correctd that.   You're just dumb as a stump aren't ya  

And no straw man. You called people nazis because you don't like them. (btw  that's not what a 'straw man' argument is)

And no, my argument was that just because someone may share a couple of beliefs that generally align with what the nazis believed doesn't make them nazis.  But saying  you support the actions and beliefs of the Nazis (sorry, nsdap) does in fact make you an nsdap supporter.  That's kind of how it works. 

The ndp supporters would agree with the liberals on SOME issues but that doesnt' mean an ndp voter is a liberal voter. You see how that works? Everyone else gets that. 

If you're going to claim someone is a nazi then they have to specifically allign themselves with the nazis. This kid does (Sorry  nsdap ) although he notes that he cannot actively support them now because they're all dead and gone and the party is history.  So  calling him an nsdap supporter has a lot more validity  

 

LOL  it' s not often you fail so hard on a subject  the first time and come back to fail again a second time  

[Five of swords]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You're obviously care a great deal. You post me about it quite a bit, you post to others about it quite a bit, you post to the point of being absolutely ridiculous and making statements that are disproved in 5 seconds because of your feelings about it.

And while posts like that may seem like a lot of work to you they only take me a couple of moments. So no biggie  

BTW  - pro tip, if you really don't care about someone's opinion on something don't take the time to write them and tell them how you don't care.  It's a giveaway that you care   

I enjoy seeing the retarded things you say, so I like responding. But don't get the impression I'm ever going to discuss politics with you lol...you are just incapable of that

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

I enjoy seeing the retarded things you say, so I like responding.

You've been crying like a baby every time you get your ass handed to you   But if pretending makes you feel better you go right ahead  It's just like you learned in playschool!

[Black Dog]

Just now, CdnFox said:

LOL - still melting down are ya   well, guess i'd be butt hurt too if i looked that dumb  

See you have to pretend this beatdown is a meltdown becaus eyou have no self awareness.

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And as you can see above several posts ago i specifically at his request stopped referring to him as a nazi and corrected it to a nsdap supporter after the fact acknowledging that the party no longer exists and that he only WOULD have supported them or supports them in emeritus so to speak. 

So .... you kinda kept right on arguing after i'd already correctd that.   You're just dumb as a stump aren't ya  

"Hah I'm not backpedalling now, I already backpedalled earlier!" is a heckuva defence.

Anywhoo, your pedantic semantic autistic f*ckery is irrelevant: the NSDAP and "Nazis" are interchangeable terms, the NSDAP does not exist, therefore, by your own arguments, you can't call him a Nazi or a NSDAP supporter.

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And no straw man. You called people nazis because you don't like them. (btw  that's not what a 'straw man' argument is)

No, I specifically didn't but you lie as easy as breathing.

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And no, my argument was that just because someone may share a couple of beliefs that generally align with what the nazis believed doesn't make them nazis.  But saying  you support the actions and beliefs of the Nazis (sorry, nsdap) does in fact make you an nsdap supporter.  That's kind of how it works. 

Again, that was not what you said in the other thread. It get it sucks to be caught in a trap of your own making, but doubling down and flailing like this is just undignified.

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The ndp supporters would agree with the liberals on SOME issues but that doesnt' mean an ndp voter is a liberal voter. You see how that works? Everyone else gets that. 

If you're going to claim someone is a nazi then they have to specifically allign themselves with the nazis. T

Well, dipshit this is not the bar you set, but I'm glad you've tacitly decided that I was right after the entire time you were "reeeeeeeeeee"-ing about ""if they're not affliated [sic] with a nazi party they're not a nazi." 

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This kid does (Sorry  nsdap ) although he notes that he cannot actively support them now because they're all dead and gone and the party is history.  So  calling him an nsdap supporter has a lot more validity  

He specifically said he can't support a party that does not exist. He thus does not identify as a NSDAP supporter and cannot therefore be called one. Again, your stupid rules.

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LOL  it' s not often you fail so hard on a subject  the first time and come back to fail again a second time  

And you do it it time and again most recently with the "Confederates were socialists/I never said they were socialists" and now with "you can't call someone who shares Nazi beliefs a Nazi, oh wait you can, or maybe not?"

[Five of swords]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You've been crying like a baby every time you get your ass handed to you   But if pretending makes you feel better you go right ahead  It's just like you learned in playschool!

Lol whatever you say

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

See you have to pretend this beatdown is a meltdown becaus eyou have no self awareness.

"Hah I'm not backpedalling now, I already backpedalled earlier!" is a heckuva defence.

Anywhoo, your pedantic semantic autistic f*ckery is irrelevant: the NSDAP and "Nazis" are interchangeable terms, the NSDAP does not exist, therefore, by your own arguments, you can't call him a Nazi or a NSDAP supporter.

No, I specifically didn't but you lie as easy as breathing.

Again, that was not what you said in the other thread. It get it sucks to be caught in a trap of your own making, but doubling down and flailing like this is just undignified.

Well, dipshit this is not the bar you set, but I'm glad you've tacitly decided that I was right after the entire time you were "reeeeeeeeeee"-ing about ""if they're not affliated [sic] with a nazi party they're not a nazi." 

He specifically said he can't support a party that does not exist. He thus does not identify as a NSDAP supporter and cannot therefore be called one. Again, your stupid rules.

And you do it it time and again most recently with the "Confederates were socialists/I never said they were socialists" and now with "you can't call someone who shares Nazi beliefs a Nazi, oh wait you can, or maybe not?"

I see you have to pretend this meltdown is a beat down

Kid, it's plain you realize your current point is as pointless as the point i previously pointed out was pointless.  Which makes you pretty pointless at this point  

As to whether nazi and nsdap is synonymous, you'll have to take it up with the other kid. 

and yes you did, you called people nazis because you don't like them. You desperately wanted them all to be 'Nazis" specifically and they weren't and you cried. 

And yes  i was very clear in the other thread  that if you consider yourself a nazi or allign with nazi's then you're a nazi and if you don't you aren't. That was the point.  

Sorry kiddo - but that's yet another fail on your part

[Black Dog]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I see you have to pretend this meltdown is a beat down

Kid, it's plain you realize your current point is as pointless as the point i previously pointed out was pointless.  Which makes you pretty pointless at this point  

As to whether nazi and nsdap is synonymous, you'll have to take it up with the other kid. 

LOl you got nothing but panic emojis, hilarious.

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and yes you did, you called people nazis because you don't like them. You desperately wanted them all to be 'Nazis" specifically and they weren't and you cried. 

No cite, no facts, nothing, as usual.

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And yes  i was very clear in the other thread  that if you consider yourself a nazi or allign with nazi's then you're a nazi and if you don't you aren't. That was the point.  

Sorry kiddo - but that's yet another fail on your part

 

Nope, this is a lie, a truly pathetic packpedal when it's all there in black and white: "if they're not affliated [sic] with a nazi party they're not a nazi."  

You also said, that to call someone a Nazi (and again, this is a direct quote,)  "you'd have to be the one to show there's a nazi party AND they belonged to it. Otherwise they're not nazis."

Not self-id, not "allign [sic] with", not sharing the beliefs; an actual member of a Nazi political party.

Like, man the entire argument was me saying it's ok to cll someone who share Nazi beliefs a Nazi and you reeeeing out in disagreement. Now here you are, adopting my arguments wholesale while pretending you're not, which I suppose is the closest I'll get to you admitting defeat and showing your belly, but I'll take it. Case closed. You lose, kill yourself.

 

 

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[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

LOl you got nothing but panic emojis, hilarious.

No cite, no facts, nothing, as usual.

It's hilarious that you have convinced yourself that people laughing at you are doing so out of "Panic"   ;

And the cite would be your own words. If you can't remember your words on your own that's your problem. 

And affiliated with a party means that you are connected to them in some way. For example a supporter is affiliated a person who says I am a part of that party or I support that party is affiliated. They are in some way attached to or connected with that party by declaration or membership etc. 

That's what affiliated means.

You're growing more and more desperate and it becomes more and more obvious. You hate the people who protested at Charlottesville and you want desperately for them all to be Nazis. They weren't all Nazis. It's that simple.

And that is why you're having an emotional hissy fit of the first magnitude now trying desperately to claim that affiliated somehow doesn't mean affiliated, and that it's crazy to say that people who are Nazis are Nazis and people who are not are not.

Sorry kiddo. I guess it isn't just math that's hard for you, it's also English. But I always appreciate the laughs  

[Black Dog]

23 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's hilarious that you have convinced yourself that people laughing at you are doing so out of "Panic"   ;

I don't see any people laughing at me, just a bunch of mentally ill freaks.

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And the cite would be your own words. If you can't remember your words on your own that's your problem. 

Lol you don't know what a "cite" is, this is good stuff.

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And affiliated with a party means that you are connected to them in some way. For example a supporter is affiliated a person who says I am a part of that party or I support that party is affiliated. They are in some way attached to or connected with that party by declaration or membership etc. 

That's what affiliated means.

 

Yeah exactly dumbass, not shared beliefs or "allign [sic] with", do you not see this is reinforcing my points?

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You're growing more and more desperate and it becomes more and more obvious. You hate the people who protested at Charlottesville and you want desperately for them all to be Nazis. They weren't all Nazis. It's that simple.

And now you've flipped back to your original position and will proceed to pretend you didn't flip in the first place because either you can't keep your own views straight in your tiny brain or your a dishonest dipshit.

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And that is why you're having an emotional hissy fit of the first magnitude now trying desperately to claim that affiliated somehow doesn't mean affiliated, and that it's crazy to say that people who are Nazis are Nazis and people who are not are not.

Sorry kiddo. I guess it isn't just math that's hard for you, it's also English. But I always appreciate the laughs  

 

It's over, you're cooked, do the Honourable Thing.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

I don't see any people laughing at me, just a bunch of mentally ill freaks.

 

 

I didn't realize your family was visiting  

 

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Lol you don't know what a "cite" is, this is good stuff.

You don't think it's possible for me to cite you? LOL sure go with that.  It's not like anyone respects your research skills already or anything   

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Yeah exactly dumbass, not shared beliefs or "allign [sic] with", do you not see this is reinforcing my points?

You don't know what being aligned means do you

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And now you've flipped back to your original position and will proceed to pretend you didn't flip in the first place because either you can't keep your own views straight in your tiny brain or your a dishonest dipshit.

No, you just have poor comprehension skills    My position has been consistent throughout. If someone sees themselves as a nazi they're a nazi. If someone belongs to the nazi movement they're a nazi. If someone does not belong to the nazis then they're not a nazi just because you don't like them. It's pretty simple 

 

Lol you don't know what a "cite" is, this is good stuff.

Yeah exactly dumbass, not shared beliefs or "allign [sic] with", do you not see this is reinforcing my points?

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It's over, you're cooked, do the Honourable Thing.

 

Awwww - look at you, begging me to stop beating you up and making you cry   Always makes me laugh watching you beg  

 

 

[Black Dog]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You don't think it's possible for me to cite you? LOL sure go with that.  It's not like anyone respects your research skills already or anything   

If you did, you would do it, but you don't because you're a lying pu$$y.

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No, you just have poor comprehension skills    My position has been consistent throughout. If someone sees themselves as a nazi they're a nazi. If someone belongs to the nazi movement they're a nazi. If someone does not belong to the nazis then they're not a nazi just because you don't like them. It's pretty simple 

Sure, except for when you were calling another poster a Nazi in this very thread despite not having any evidence that they belong to the Nazi party or movement or self-identifies as such. That's the whole point of this: your glaring hypocrisy/stupidity. But recognizing that requires a degree of self-awareness you simply do not possess. It would be almost sad if you weren't such an awful person. 

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Lol you don't know what a "cite" is, this is good stuff.

Yeah exactly dumbass, not shared beliefs or "allign [sic] with", do you not see this is reinforcing my points?

lol you're so shook you're pasting random things in here lol.

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Awwww - look at you, begging me to stop beating you up and making you cry   Always makes me laugh watching you beg  

I'm only begging you to stop inflicting secondhand embarrassment on everyone with this cringe tough guy routine. Go to therapy, kill yourself, anything is better than this for you.

[CdnFox]

Just now, Black Dog said:

If you did, you would do it, but you don't because you're a lying pu$$y.

 

 

So i do, then you say that's not what cites are, then you say i can but didn't....    I guess you can get pretty dizzy spinning yourself around like that  

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Sure, except for when you were calling another poster a Nazi in this very thread despite not having any evidence that they belong to the Nazi party or movement or self-identifies as such.

There was tonnes that he self identifies as such.  And he's clarified that while there is no party today he could commit to that he does support 1938's nazis. 

So here's a guy who is a supporter of the nazi's during hitler's time. SO there you go. That's what 'Self identifies' means. (well he demands they be called another name but whatever). 

Pretty simple. 

5 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

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Lol you don't know what a "cite" is, this is good stuff.

Yeah exactly dumbass, not shared beliefs or "allign [sic] with", do you not see this is reinforcing my points?

lol you're so shook you're pasting random things in here lol.

 

Ummmm....   that was your quote.  You quoted yourself and then claimed that YOUR quote means you're so shook up you're posting random things? 

Did you mean to talk to yourself? Or did you quote yourself thinking you were quoting me and didn't realize it? Just thought it sounded stupid and critisized it without realizing you said it?

 ROFLMAO -  i can't decide if that's hilarious or sad   

 

I appreciate that the Olympics are on right now and you're probably hoping to compete in the mental gymnastics division, but you're spinning your wheels as usual. People who think that they are Nazis are Nazis who don't think that they are Nazis are not Nazis. It's really that simple

[Black Dog]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So i do, then you say that's not what cites are, then you say i can but didn't....    I guess you can get pretty dizzy spinning yourself around like that  

You haven't quoted me once saying "anyone I don't like is a Nazi", f*cknuts.

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There was tonnes that he self identifies as such.  And he's clarified that while there is no party today he could commit to that he does support 1938's nazis. 
So here's a guy who is a supporter of the nazi's during hitler's time. SO there you go. That's what 'Self identifies' means. (well he demands they be called another name but whatever). 

This is another lie, I'm literally losing count.

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Ummmm....   that was your quote.  You quoted yourself and then claimed that YOUR quote means you're so shook up you're posting random things? 

I didn't quote myself, I was wondering why you were pasting random things I'd written without quote marks or commentary, I guess your hands are shaking so bad you posted early and now you're scrambling again. Like I said: shook.

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I appreciate that the Olympics are on right now and you're probably hoping to compete in the mental gymnastics division, but you're spinning your wheels as usual. People who think that they are Nazis are Nazis who don't think that they are Nazis are not Nazis. It's really that simple

Nope, we've been through this: you think Nazi is a label that can only be applied to someone who is a member of a Nazi party. at least that's what you said before you changed you m ind and called this other guy a Nazi and now maybe your changing your mind again? Who know s what's going on in that pigsty you call a brain these days.

[impartialobserver]

hence why you should wait to derive strong opinions about a topic. More information is better. 

[CdnFox]

42 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You haven't quoted me once saying "anyone I don't like is a Nazi", f*cknuts.

This is another lie, I'm literally losing count.

I didn't quote myself, I was wondering why you were pasting random things I'd written without quote marks or commentary, I guess your hands are shaking so bad you posted early and now you're scrambling again. Like I said: shook.

Nope, we've been through this: you think Nazi is a label that can only be applied to someone who is a member of a Nazi party. at least that's what you said before you changed you m ind and called this other guy a Nazi and now maybe your changing your mind again? Who know s what's going on in that pigsty you call a brain these days.

Oh dear - and the meltdown continues apace. 

Sorry kiddo, you can't lie your way out of this and freaking out and crying doesn't help. 

You thought the people who weren't nazis were nazis because you didn't like them. 

You did quote yourself, you're an 1diot.  Go back and check. 

If someone claims to be a nazi, they're a nazi.  If they don't claim to be a nazi and aren't affiliated with the nazis then  they're not a nazi.  That is common sense. I know you desperately want "but i don't like them" to mean someone's a nazi, it does not work that way. 

And the fact you can't just brand anyone you don't like as a nazi has got you so upset and mentally messed up that you can't comprehend the simple concept that if someone ISN"T actually a nazi, they're not a nazi even if you want them to be

At least you've stopped begging me to go easy on you, that's an improvement. 

[impartialobserver]

And another tidbit.. the shooter acted alone as far as can be discerned. No grand conspiracy.. nothing all that interesting. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

And another tidbit.. the shooter acted alone as far as can be discerned. No grand conspiracy.. nothing all that interesting. 

That makes it more interesting.  I mean, i get how as  a left leaning biden harris supporter you'd prefer it downplayed but if anything it raises more questions. 

If it were some sort of 'larger plan' like iran or something that would be expected.  But now we have to ask how does a kid with no real history of radicalization and no outside influence come to the decision to kill donald trump?

How much of a role did the constant democrat insistence that trump was hitler and would end democracy play in driving this kid over the edge?

 Will we see more left leaning shooters if this rhetoric keeps up?

 

[Black Dog]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Oh dear - and the meltdown continues apace. 

Sorry kiddo, you can't lie your way out of this and freaking out and crying doesn't help. 

You thought the people who weren't nazis were nazis because you didn't like them. 

And yet you can't actually quote me saying anything to that effect, its almost as if you're a lying c)nt and everyone knows it.

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You did quote yourself, you're an 1diot.  Go back and check. 

No dummy: I quoted you quoting me because you dropped some random lines of mine into your post with no context or comment because you were panicking so bad you forgot how to work your computer lol.

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If someone claims to be a nazi, they're a nazi.  If they don't claim to be a nazi and aren't affiliated with the nazis then  they're not a nazi.  That is common sense. I know you desperately want "but i don't like them" to mean someone's a nazi, it does not work that way. 

This is actually not common sense at all because it precludes the most essential characteristic of being a Nazi, which is believing Nazi shit. By your moronic criteria someone could share 100% of their beliefs with Adolph Hitler but if they don't call themselves a Nazi or belong to a political party with Nazi in the name, they're not a Nazi. And it's pretty clear even you don't believe this yourself because:

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And the fact you can't just brand anyone you don't like as a nazi has got you so upset and mentally messed up that you can't comprehend the simple concept that if someone ISN"T actually a nazi, they're not a nazi even if you want them to be. 

Sigh. You keep saying this  retarded argument while ignoring the fact that you called a guy a Nazi who doesn't fit your own definition of Nazi, which is the whole point of me rubbing your face in your shit here. Your definition of nazi is someone who is "in some way attached to or connected with that party by declaration or membership etc." 

The kid you called a Nazi here hasn't declared themselves a Nazi and denies being a member of the Nazi party (or NSDAP if one wants to get technical) which means you called him a Nazi just because you don't like him. Damn, that's some abject hypocrisy.

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At least you've stopped begging me to go easy on you, that's an improvement. 

It's funny that you're such a habitual and compulsive liar you even lie to yourself. 

 

[WestCanMan]

It's like @Black Dog really thinks he's telling the truth for once. So convincing.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

And yet you can't actually quote me saying anything to that effect, its almost as if you're a lying c)nt and everyone knows it.

No dummy: I quoted you quoting me because you dropped some random lines of mine into your post with no context or comment because you were panicking so bad you forgot how to work your computer lol.

This is actually not common sense at all because it precludes the most essential characteristic of being a Nazi, which is believing Nazi shit. By your moronic criteria someone could share 100% of their beliefs with Adolph Hitler but if they don't call themselves a Nazi or belong to a political party with Nazi in the name, they're not a Nazi. And it's pretty clear even you don't believe this yourself because:

Sigh. You keep saying this  retarded argument while ignoring the fact that you called a guy a Nazi who doesn't fit your own definition of Nazi, which is the whole point of me rubbing your face in your shit here. Your definition of nazi is someone who is "in some way attached to or connected with that party by declaration or membership etc." 

The kid you called a Nazi here hasn't declared themselves a Nazi and denies being a member of the Nazi party (or NSDAP if one wants to get technical) which means you called him a Nazi just because you don't like him. Damn, that's some abject hypocrisy.

It's funny that you're such a habitual and compulsive liar you even lie to yourself. 

 

Kid if i have to play back your own words to you over and over again then it's obvious you're just playing games 

The reason those people are nazis in your mind is you don't like them. They don't claim to be nazis, they're not associated with nazis, they don't carry nazi flags, they don't do anything nazi but they're racist and in your mind anyone racist must be a nazi, and that's not how the world works. 

Yes stupid - you quoted yourself.  NOW you realize it so you're trying to pretend you were quoting me but no those were YOUR words that you found weird   No wonder you're trying to backpeddal  

it is 100 percent common sense for 99 percent of the public out there that people who claim to be a thing are a thing, and people who aren't that thing aren't that thing. 

If one group says I"m a nazi  and another group says "we're something else", then they are not all nazis.  You're dumber than a brick. 

ANd yes - i keep repeating simple logical truths.  They don't change. They're true yesterday, they're true today, they're true tomorrow. 

And i already dealt with the issue with the kid. In detail, with him AND you 

 

You can't stomp your foot and have a hissy fit hard enough to magically change  the truth.  I know you lefties think that as long as you freak out loud and hard enough the truth will change but it doesn't. 

[Black Dog]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Kid if i have to play back your own words to you over and over again then it's obvious you're just playing games 

LMAO so you don't have any evidence of me saying I thought the people who weren't nazis were nazis because I didn't like them? Even though you said I said that? So you're lying again? lol you pu$$y loser.

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The reason those people are nazis in your mind is you don't like them. They don't claim to be nazis, they're not associated with nazis, they don't carry nazi flags, they don't do anything nazi but they're racist and in your mind anyone racist must be a nazi, and that's not how the world works. 

No it's because they believe Nazi shit, as I've stated repeatedly but you're too dumb to actually argue against that point so you argue the strawman that I just don't like them for nebulous reasons. Pathetic.

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Yes stupid - you quoted yourself.  NOW you realize it so you're trying to pretend you were quoting me but no those were YOUR words that you found weird  No wonder you're trying to backpeddal

Again: what was weird was you dropping my words into your post without quote marks, attribution, or comment. And now you're pathetically trying to deflect from what was an obvious posting error because you have to argue every littl epoint because you're a pedantic autistic freakshow. 

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it is 100 percent common sense for 99 percent of the public out there that people who claim to be a thing are a thing, and people who aren't that thing aren't that thing. 

It's the opposite, actually. If you had a guy who said "I'm not a nazi, but I think blacks are inferior, Jews run the world and should be eliminated, and Aryans are the master race" 99 per cent of normal people would (rightly) call that guy a Nazi no matter how he chooses to identify himself. You would know this if you had any actual real world friends, but it's abundantly clear you do not. Which brings us to this part:

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And i already dealt with the issue with the kid. In detail, with him AND you 

Yeah about that. You said this:

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There was tonnes [sic] that he self identifies as such.  And he's clarified that while there is no party today he could commit to that he does support 1938's nazis. 

So here's a guy who is a supporter of the nazi's during hitler's time. SO there you go. That's what 'Self identifies' means. (well he demands they be called another name but whatever). 

None of this is true. He's never stated that he identifies as a supporter of the Nazis/NSDAP, did not say he would have supported them in the '30s or if they existed today. In fact he specifically says "Nobody is a nazi. That is just a pejorative slang that anglos used for national socialists." 

Now, it's clear he's a fascist, a Holocaust denier, a Hitler stan, a white supremacist and an antisemite of the highest order. To me, and 99% of people,  that makes him a Nazi. But by your criteria, he is not (again, doesn't claim to be one, does not claim to be a member of a Nazi political party). But that didn't stop you from slipping and calling him one because you know, deep down in the turd-filled to sewer you call a brain that it's ideology not official political affiliation that makes a Nazi a Nazi in our common parlance.

Now cue your next round of autistic screeching...

[CouchPotato]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Now, it's clear he's a fascist, a Holocaust denier, a Hitler stan, a white supremacist and an antisemite of the highest order. To me, and 99% of people,  that makes him a Nazi. But by your criteria, he is not (again, doesn't claim to be one, does not claim to be a member of a Nazi political party). But that didn't stop you from slipping and calling him one because you know, deep down in the turd-filled to sewer you call a brain that it's ideology not official political affiliation that makes a Nazi a Nazi in our common parlance.

Now cue your next round of autistic screeching...

This argument is going to go on for 20 years.

Black Dog. In one thread you were arguing that you could conclusively label everyone in a large group as a Nazi. CdnFox is arguing that one guy is a Nazi. That in itself is a more realistic charge to make. On top of that, CdnFox has more evidence about this one guy than you do about everyone in that group. He has statements from the guy. Holocaust denial, etc. You do not know what everyone in that group thought or believed. 

 

[Black Dog]

7 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

This argument is going to go on for 20 years.

Black Dog. In one thread you were arguing that you could conclusively label everyone in a large group as a Nazi. CdnFox is arguing that one guy is a Nazi. That in itself is a more realistic charge to make. On top of that, CdnFox has more evidence about this one guy than you do about everyone in that group. He has statements from the guy. Holocaust denial, etc. You do not know what everyone in that group thought or believed. 

According to CdnFux, that doesn't matter. he's only a Nazi if he calls himself a Nazi. If he doesn't, he's not. And he doesn't.

My argument is that the minute differences that may exist between neo-Nazis, the KKK, white nationalists, alt-righters and the rest of the fascist scumbags gathered at Unite the Right are less important than their ideological similarities and thus the term Nazi is fit for purpose.

Now you seem like a relatively sane and reasonable chap despite being a conservative so I'll ask you this: why is it so important to you guys that these distinctions be made? Is it simply a tribal thing? Trump said they were fine people there so you have to accept that instead of saying that gee maybe the rally planned and organized by a notorious neo-Nazi/white supremacist, featuring the aforementioned fascist scumbags to defend the statue of a slavery-defending traitor is not the best hill to die on? 

[CouchPotato]

15 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

According to CdnFux, that doesn't matter. he's only a Nazi if he calls himself a Nazi. If he doesn't, he's not. And he doesn't.

My argument is that the minute differences that may exist between neo-Nazis, the KKK, white nationalists, alt-righters and the rest of the fascist scumbags gathered at Unite the Right are less important than their ideological similarities and thus the term Nazi is fit for purpose.

Now you seem like a relatively sane and reasonable chap despite being a conservative so I'll ask you this: why is it so important to you guys that these distinctions be made? Is it simply a tribal thing? Trump said they were fine people there so you have to accept that instead of saying that gee maybe the rally planned and organized by a notorious neo-Nazi/white supremacist, featuring the aforementioned fascist scumbags to defend the statue of a slavery-defending traitor is not the best hill to die on? 

See, now I look at your argument, and I see you willing to die on an even worse hill. You do it constantly as long as you can get someone to make a one argument that is not well thought out, and then you focus on that and hammer them with it. You are quite good at it, too.

Maybe CdnFox did not phrase his argument well in that other thread. But nonetheless his standard for labeling someone as a Nazi was much higher than yours. You don't know the personal thoughts of people in a large crowd. He is providing statements made by the guy. And now you have dug yourself into the pit of arguing he is not one simply out of spite for CdnFox. You care about you being right. Not about Nazis.

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[CdnFox]

38 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

LMAO so you don't have any evidence of me saying I thought the people who weren't nazis were nazis because I didn't like them? Even though you said I said that? So you're lying again? lol you pu$$y loser.

No it's because they believe Nazi shit, as I've stated repeatedly but you're too dumb to actually argue against that point so you argue the strawman that I just don't like them for nebulous reasons. Pathetic.

Again: what was weird was you dropping my words into your post without quote marks, attribution, or comment. And now you're pathetically trying to deflect from what was an obvious posting error because you have to argue every littl epoint because you're a pedantic autistic freakshow. 

It's the opposite, actually. If you had a guy who said "I'm not a nazi, but I think blacks are inferior, Jews run the world and should be eliminated, and Aryans are the master race" 99 per cent of normal people would (rightly) call that guy a Nazi no matter how he chooses to identify himself. You would know this if you had any actual real world friends, but it's abundantly clear you do not. Which brings us to this part:

Yeah about that. You said this:

None of this is true. He's never stated that he identifies as a supporter of the Nazis/NSDAP, did not say he would have supported them in the '30s or if they existed today. In fact he specifically says "Nobody is a nazi. That is just a pejorative slang that anglos used for national socialists." 

Now, it's clear he's a fascist, a Holocaust denier, a Hitler stan, a white supremacist and an antisemite of the highest order. To me, and 99% of people,  that makes him a Nazi. But by your criteria, he is not (again, doesn't claim to be one, does not claim to be a member of a Nazi political party). But that didn't stop you from slipping and calling him one because you know, deep down in the turd-filled to sewer you call a brain that it's ideology not official political affiliation that makes a Nazi a Nazi in our common parlance.

Now cue your next round of autistic screeching...

We have all kinds of evidence - but you deny anyway. 

As we've established these people dont' believe 'nazi shit' at all.  But in your mind if you don't like someone they're a nazi.  

And again - the fact you find your own words weird is ... . well... weird.  But you do you. 

And if i had a guy who  said "I'm not a nazi, but I think blacks are inferior, Jews run the world and should be eliminated, and Aryans are the master race"  i would assume there's a reason he thinks he's not a  nazi and ask what he was.  What if he was a communist? They believed the same things for a while there in russia.  What if he's a racist bigot but doesn't believe in a highly regulated market economy and thinks exapnsion by war is evil?

You see'? You've proven my point. You've taken a couple elements that the nazis agree with and because you don't like them you assume ANYONE who believes that is a nazi.  And i've explained  why that is stupid.  You not linking something is not grounds for someone else being a nazi. 

The conservatives in england believe in lower taxes and so do republicans in the us but that does not make the conservaties republicans!  The republicans in the states run massive deficits - so does the liberals under trudeau but that does  not make republicans libearls!

 

You've defeated your own argument here.  And the vast majority of people get that. Apples have a skin, oranges have a skin, but an apple isn't an orange! All cats have 4 legs, my dog has for legs but my dog is not a cat!!  

This is elementary logic 101.  How the hell is it you need this explained to you once never mind 10 times?