CdnFox Posted August 1 Author Report Share Posted August 1 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Black Dog said: According to CdnFux, that doesn't matter. he's only a Nazi if he calls himself a Nazi. If he doesn't, he's not. And he doesn't. He calls himself by that other name and notes he can only support them in retrospect and i've already said so several times now. but you're so emotionally damaged that people you don't like aren't necessarily nazis that you just can't even get past it 18 minutes ago, Black Dog said: My argument is that the minute differences that may exist between neo-Nazis, the KKK, white nationalists, alt-righters and the rest of the fascist scumbags gathered at Unite the Right are less important than their ideological similarities and thus the term Nazi is fit for purpose. There's nothing 'minute' about it. There are massive huge differences between the two. But you think anyone you don't like is a nazi. And you don't like those two groups. So you think they're both nazis. Nazis are nazis. People who are not Nazis are not nazis. It's that simple. And we know you know i'm right if you're down to trying to misspell my name as part of your argument Edited August 1 by CdnFox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 36 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: See, now I look at your argument, and I see you willing to die on an even worse hill. You do it constantly as long as you can get someone to make a one argument that is not well thought out, and then you focus on that and hammer them with it. You are quite good at it, too. Maybe CdnFox did not phrase his argument well in that other thread. But nonetheless his standard for labeling someone as a Nazi was much higher than yours. It's nonsensical, pedantic and would be absolutely alien to the majority of normal people who look at a crowd of people chanting "Jews will not replace us," throwing Hitler salutes and waving torches and various fascist symbols and think "jeez this looks like a bunch of Nazis" without much regard for the minute ideological differences between the various groups of fascist shitbags in attendance. Quote You don't know the personal thoughts of people in a large crowd. If you're going to really split hairs and argue that, well maybe one or two people who weren't fascist shitbags happened to wander by and join the rally because it looked like a good time or whatever and so therefore you can't call everyone a Nazi, I could honestly not give any less of a shit. Lie down with dogs, catch fleas, hang out with a bunch of Nazis, get tarred with the same brush. Quote He is providing statements made by the guy. And now you have dug yourself into the pit of arguing he is not one simply out of spite for CdnFox. You care about you being right. Not about Nazis. No I'm literally arguing that the guy is a Nazi by my definition, but not CdnFux's. As I said: Quote Now, it's clear he's a fascist, a Holocaust denier, a Hitler stan, a white supremacist and an antisemite of the highest order. To me, and 99% of people, that makes him a Nazi. But by your criteria, he is not (again, doesn't claim to be one, does not claim to be a member of a Nazi political party). Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 35 minutes ago, CdnFox said: We have all kinds of evidence - but you deny anyway. As we've established these people dont' believe 'nazi shit' at all. But in your mind if you don't like someone they're a nazi. No we haven't, you've pointed out a couple of minor differences of degree, but not kind. There's more similarities than differences. Quote And again - the fact you find your own words weird is ... . well... weird. But you do you. What's weird is you saying I said something, being asked for evidence, refusing to provide it and then acting like it's a me problem when you're just a lying chickenshit. Quote And if i had a guy who said "I'm not a nazi, but I think blacks are inferior, Jews run the world and should be eliminated, and Aryans are the master race" i would assume there's a reason he thinks he's not a nazi and ask what he was. What if he was a communist? They believed the same things for a while there in russia. What if he's a racist bigot but doesn't believe in a highly regulated market economy and thinks exapnsion by war is evil? And yet you went ahead an assumed a guy who denied the Holocaust and expressed admiration for Hitler was a Nazi despite him not self-identifying as such, seems you have a hard time living up to your stated convictions here, dipshit. Quote You see'? You've proven my point. You've taken a couple elements that the nazis agree with and because you don't like them you assume ANYONE who believes that is a nazi. And i've explained why that is stupid. You not linking something is not grounds for someone else being a nazi. "A couple of elements" that just so happen to be the defining traits of Nazism. Quote The conservatives in england believe in lower taxes and so do republicans in the us but that does not make the conservaties republicans! But they're all conservatives and share a conservative ideology. Your insistence that Nazism is not an ideology is extremely retarded. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 (edited) 45 minutes ago, CdnFox said: He calls himself by that other name and notes he can only support them in retrospect and i've already said so several times now. Prove it. Direct quotes where he says this. I've read the guy's entire posting history and he's quite careful not to say he is or would have been a Nazi or NSDAP member. Quote but you're so emotionally damaged that people you don't like aren't necessarily nazis that you just can't even get past it I genuinely don't know what you think you're getting out of this hyperfixation because all you're doing is coming off as a guy who wants to protect folks like the KKK, alt-right and white nationalists from being unfairly tarred with the pejorative term Nazi, which, again, is not normal. Quote There's nothing 'minute' about it. There are massive huge differences between the two. No one actually gives a shit except you for some reason (we know the reason). Quote And we know you know i'm right if you're down to trying to misspell my name as part of your argument Could be worse, I could accuse you of altering quotes or saying you said things and then refusing to provide direct citations, that would be the mark of a real chickenshit scumbag loser. Edited August 1 by Black Dog Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 1 Author Report Share Posted August 1 33 minutes ago, Black Dog said: No we haven't, you've pointed out a couple of minor differences of degree, but not kind. There's more similarities than differences. What's weird is you saying I said something, being asked for evidence, refusing to provide it and then acting like it's a me problem when you're just a lying chickenshit. And yet you went ahead an assumed a guy who denied the Holocaust and expressed admiration for Hitler was a Nazi despite him not self-identifying as such, seems you have a hard time living up to your stated convictions here, dipshit. "A couple of elements" that just so happen to be the defining traits of Nazism. But they're all conservatives and share a conservative ideology. Your insistence that Nazism is not an ideology is extremely retarded. Ther'es not more similarities than differences AND as noted two things can be similar and yet bet different. People who are not nazis are not nazis. And quoting yourself and saying it's weird is weird. The guy says he supports the nazis in that day (by his preferred title for them which i'm not going to look up) and i believe him. And no - racial issues are not the defining characteristic of nazis. They didn't launch ww2 over 'jews". They didn't invade poland because "aryans". They didn't get elected to power because 'blacks". In fact it's one of the least defining thing about them, other than perhaps the jews. What defined them was their stance about market socialsm vs state owned socialism, and even more so their belief that the purpose and duty of the state was to expand the state through military force, as well as a strict control over social issues right down to what kind of music people could or could not listen to. Has the kkk suggested what kind of music people must listen to? Or demanded the us expand it's borders through military force? Or demanded that the gov't exercise extreme control over the market? no? None of that? Hmmm. The only reason you call them nazis is you don't like them and you think calling them nazis makes it sound like theyr'e even worse than they are. kid - you couldn't think your way out of a paper bag (or a white hood). A nazi is a nazi - people who are not nazis are not nazis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 25 minutes ago, CdnFox said: People who are not nazis are not nazis. Except the guy you called a Nazi who said he wasn't a nazi. Funny how you keep forgetting that part. Quote The guy says he supports the nazis in that day (by his preferred title for them which i'm not going to look up) and i believe him. Again: prove it. Show me a direct quote, Quote And no - racial issues are not the defining characteristic of nazis. They didn't launch ww2 over 'jews". They didn't invade poland because "aryans". They didn't get elected to power because 'blacks". In fact it's one of the least defining thing about them, other than perhaps the jews. This would come as a huge surprise to Adolph Hitler, whose antisemitism and obsession with racial purity are the central themes of Mein Kampf. But why would he know more about what nazis stand for than some autistic desk jockey. Quote What defined them was their stance about market socialsm vs state owned socialism, and even more so their belief that the purpose and duty of the state was to expand the state through military force, Again, all this does is show how little actual human interaction you have. Ask 10 people what defined the Nazis 10 people would answer "the Holocaust/hating Jews" and not their economic policies. Quote as well as a strict control over social issues right down to what kind of music people could or could not listen to.= Hey quick question what kind of music/art did the Nazis not want people to consume and why? What a hilarious thing to mention to deflect from their central focus on race lol. Quote Has the kkk suggested what kind of music people must listen to? Or demanded the us expand it's borders through military force? Or demanded that the gov't exercise extreme control over the market? Again: no one cares about this shit. The Nazis hated Jews and communists and believed in white racial supremacy. So did the KKK. Both groups advocated for violence to return to a glorious and largely imagined) past. Oh and, most famously, Hitler modelled the Nuremberg Laws after the Jim Crow Laws that were a product of the same milieu that spawned the KKK in the first place. Quote kid - you couldn't think your way out of a paper bag (or a white hood). A nazi is a nazi - people who are not nazis are not nazis. Again, one has to wonder why protecting folks like the KKK, alt-right and white nationalists from being unfairly tarred with the pejorative term Nazi is so important to you. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 1 Author Report Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: Except the guy you called a Nazi who said he wasn't a nazi. Funny how you keep forgetting that part. Again: prove it. Show me a direct quote, This would come as a huge surprise to Adolph Hitler, whose antisemitism and obsession with racial purity are the central themes of Mein Kampf. But why would he know more about what nazis stand for than some autistic desk jockey. Again, all this does is show how little actual human interaction you have. Ask 10 people what defined the Nazis 10 people would answer "the Holocaust/hating Jews" and not their economic policies. Hey quick question what kind of music/art did the Nazis not want people to consume and why? What a hilarious thing to mention to deflect from their central focus on race lol. Again: no one cares about this shit. The Nazis hated Jews and communists and believed in white racial supremacy. So did the KKK. Both groups advocated for violence to return to a glorious and largely imagined) past. Oh and, most famously, Hitler modelled the Nuremberg Laws after the Jim Crow Laws that were a product of the same milieu that spawned the KKK in the first place. Again, one has to wonder why protecting folks like the KKK, alt-right and white nationalists from being unfairly tarred with the pejorative term Nazi is so important to you. LOL holy shit you're a crybaby Nothing is forgotton. He agrees that he supports the 1939 nazi party but prefers it be reffered to by it's german name. And as to the nazis and music - "Jazz". The devils music clearly. I thought everyone knew this. They said it was degenerate music of the blacks and the jews. They wanted people listening to more patriotic music . But they did make use of it themselves 'Swingtime for Hitler' explores the Nazis use of jazz as a propaganda tool : NPR While they didn't out and out pass a law forbidding it to be played, it was severely frowned upon and you could very quickly wind up in trouble playing any and radio stations were instructed not to. As to the rest - your usual drivel. All of that has been addressed. But you're such a butthurt crybaby you can't accept simple truths and keep desperately hoping that somehow things will change as long as you deny the truth hard enough. People are not nazis just because you don't like them. People who are nazis are nazis people who are not are not. Trump was perfectly correct to point out that with regards to the protests involving removing statues there were good people on both sides and it was important to de-escalate the tensions. Being a butt hurt crybaby won't change the fact that the above is true sorry . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 18 minutes ago, CdnFox said: LOL holy shit you're a crybaby Holy shit you're a loser, you're just absolutely flailing here. Quote Nothing is forgotton. He agrees that he supports the 1939 nazi party but prefers it be reffered to by it's german name. Again: prove it. Show me a direct quote. You can't can you? Quote And as to the nazis and music - "Jazz". The devils music clearly. I thought everyone knew this. LMAO, do you not understand that when I ask you a question it is always, always because I already know the answer or are you so very neurologically f*cked that you don't recognize that type of construction? Quote They said it was degenerate music of the blacks and the jews. Yeah I know which is why I'm laughing that you would use that as an example of how racial issues weren't a defining characteristic of nazis lol you are so dense. Quote All of that has been addressed. But you're such a butthurt crybaby you can't accept simple truths and keep desperately hoping that somehow things will change as long as you deny the truth hard enough. Keep filling that diaper buddy. Quote People are not nazis just because you don't like them. People who are nazis are nazis people who are not are not. Except when you decide they are even if they aren't by your own criteria. *shrug* Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Holy shit you're a loser, you're just absolutely flailing here. well that's your usual admission i'm right and you're stupid, so i guess there's nothing more to say You're at the full meltdown stage and you can't actually refute anything, you just blather like an !diot Next time use your brain more. OF COURSE someone who's not a nazi isn't a nazi just because you don't like them in your mind . Oh - and i loved this: Quote LMAO, do you not understand that when I ask you a question it is always, always because I already know the answer or are you so very neurologically f*cked that you don't recognize that type of construction? ROFLMAO!!!! But you DIDN"T know the answer!!! That's the hilarious bit!!! And now that i've answered it - all you can say is "Derp... err. i knew that honest!!!" BWAAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!!! You couldn't prove that you know i'm right and you're an 1diot more if you had it written down and notarized LOLOLOL!!! Good nite Junior, go get your juice and see if your mommy will let you play lego before you go to bed LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: well that's your usual admission i'm right and you're stupid, so i guess there's nothing more to say You're at the full meltdown stage and you can't actually refute anything, you just blather like an !diot Next time use your brain more. OF COURSE someone who's not a nazi isn't a nazi just because you don't like them in your mind . So: you can't quote me saying everyone I don't like is a Nazi and you can't quote the other guy saying he would support the NSDAP. You're a total f*cking fraud, nothing you say from here on out matters one bit. Quote Oh - and i loved this: ROFLMAO!!!! But you DIDN"T know the answer!!! That's the hilarious bit!!! Except for the part where i obviously did know the answer. To wit: Quote Hey quick question what kind of music/art did the Nazis not want people to consume and why? What a hilarious thing to mention to deflect from their central focus on race lol. Quote And now that i've answered it - all you can say is "Derp... err. i knew that honest!!!" BWAAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!!! You couldn't prove that you know i'm right and you're an 1diot more if you had it written down and notarized LOLOLOL!!! Good nite Junior, go get your juice and see if your mommy will let you play lego before you go to bed LOL!!! Change your diaper, you stink like shit. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: So: you can't quote me saying everyone I don't like is a Nazi and you can't quote the other guy saying he would support the NSDAP. You're a total f*cking fraud, nothing you say from here on out matters one bit. Except for the part where i obviously did know the answer. To wit: Change your diaper, you stink like shit. "Lie lie lie repeat lie repeat lie repeat lie ignore truth ignore truth". - blackdog All been covered before, sorry you're so butthurt by the truth you're struggling to cope like that Clearly having the facts shoved in your face has broken you as a person. And you obviously didn't know the answer. Unless you're claim now is that banning jazz music was the defining feature of the Nazis I don't think you could make yourself look more pathetic than that The defining characteristics of the nazi party were the very heavy regulation of a market based economy and of society for the purpose of achieving national goals along with a strong belief that the duty and purpose of a nation was to expand through military conquest and that industry and society should be guided to service that requirement. A secondary issue was the direct persecution of jews and gypsies specifically but as noted you could say that about a lot of people's and gov'ts at the time including the russians. Not "didn't like jazz' You're an !diot ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: "Lie lie lie repeat lie repeat lie repeat lie ignore truth ignore truth". - blackdog All been covered before, sorry you're so butthurt by the truth you're struggling to cope like that Clearly having the facts shoved in your face has broken you as a person. And you obviously didn't know the answer. Unless you're claim now is that banning jazz music was the defining feature of the Nazis I don't think you could make yourself look more pathetic than that The defining characteristics of the nazi party were the very heavy regulation of a market based economy and of society for the purpose of achieving national goals along with a strong belief that the duty and purpose of a nation was to expand through military conquest and that industry and society should be guided to service that requirement. A secondary issue was the direct persecution of jews and gypsies specifically but as noted you could say that about a lot of people's and gov'ts at the time including the russians. Not "didn't like jazz' You're an !diot ) I take it you didn't change your diaper but decided to add another load. The fact you can't provide relevant quotes to back up your claims proves your dishonesty, the fact you can't recognize a rhetorical question proves your stupidity and the fact you think the Nazis were more concerned with economic than racial issues proves your total ignorance of basic history. I'd be better off trying to have a intelligent conversation with any of the animals at the zoo than with you, they couldn't possibly embarrass themselves as badly as you have here. You're a loser, through and through. 1 Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 10 minutes ago, Black Dog said: I take it you didn't change your diaper but decided to add another load. Wah wah lie lie I'm so butthurt i can't walk - "blackdog". LOL - Sorry kiddo, you've reached peak stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Wah wah lie lie I'm so butthurt i can't walk - "blackdog". LOL - Sorry kiddo, you've reached peak stupid I told you to change your diaper, why are you walking around smelling like shit? Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 13 minutes ago, Black Dog said: I told you to change your diaper, why are you walking around smelling like shit? Yes - you're always fixated on asses and poop. We've all noticed Sorry being wrong has mentally crippled you. Maybe try a cookie and a nap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 13 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Yes - you're always fixated on asses and poop. We've all noticed I'm not the one walking around with a shit-filled diaper buddy. Get someone to hose you off, you've absolutely soiled yourself all over this thread. Quote Maybe try a cookie and a nap? Spoken like the pedophile you are. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, Black Dog said: I'm not the one walking around with a shit-filled diaper buddy. Get someone to hose you off, you've absolutely soiled yourself all over this thread. I think it's pretty obvious to everyone here who the Coprophiliac around here is Clearly thinking about poop gets you a little inappropriately excited. Quote Spoken like the pedophile you are. Oh yeah and you bring up children sexually a lot too. That explains why diapers get you so worked up. So... do you think is actually a good look for you? Asking for a friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 18 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So... do you think is actually a good look for you? Asking for a friend You don't have any friend dude. No one likes pedophiles. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, Black Dog said: You don't have any friend dude. No one likes pedophiles. LOL Awwww muffin It's no wonder you spend all your time talking about asses and poop, you're constantly in a state of being butthurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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