Canada should deport immigrants that illegally occupy, intimidate, and spout anti-Semitism

[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Calling it "real talk" doesn't make what you're saying less nonsensical.  

There are only 2M Palestinians in Gaza.  Blackbird is worried about half of them being relocated to Canada? 

What's the "proper amount of reverence" for jews?  

So...use some common sense. Israel is bombing all the hospitals in gaza, cutting off electricity and water and food delivery...bro, they want gaza to be unlivable. Arabs will be forced to leave, and yeah..the think tanks and politicians and media are already signaling that they should accept massive numbers of palestinians to live in their country. I don't think anyone is breaking down what exact number goes to what country...but a million to canada? Why not? Who would really bother to object to that?

 

That is the correct realpolitik strategy for Israel and if some random diaspora jews don't like it then oh well, they can always move to Israel.

 

The correct reverence for jews is basically summed up by that scene from the sopranos. 'Schlomo gets whatever he wants'. Cause they were victims of Hitler and/or because God chose them and/or they are so smart and funny. Pick your reason. Doesnt matter as long as jews get whatever they want and are shielded from 'antisemitism' (criticism of jews, especially politically motivated criticism).

[herbie]

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

It can be defined as a criminal act. Chanting 'free Palestine' aligns the speaker with Hamas, which should be illegal

So take someone to court over that.

And your idea that supporting Palestinian rights = supporting Hamas simply shows your mind is as closed as a nun's you know what

[Moonbox]

34 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

I don't think anyone is breaking down what exact number goes to what country...but a million to canada? Why not? Who would really bother to object to that?

Why would it be?  Aleppo had roughly the same population as Gaza back in 2015, and we've only taken in ~42,000 refugees from all of Syria since 2015.  

"real talk".  🙄

[Five of swords]

26 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Why would it be?  Aleppo had roughly the same population as Gaza back in 2015, and we've only taken in ~42,000 refugees from all of Syria since 2015.  

"real talk".  🙄

Why are you changing the subject toSyria? Lol...Assad managed to maintain control of that country despite the us efforts to assist isis in making Syria also uninhabitable. Israelaid was an ngo that was central to the project of relocating Syrians to europe..and for the most part it was done with excuses about them being good for business somehow. But Syria still has food and water and hospitals and electricity, making it quite different from gaza, of course. The only similarity it has is that Israel wanted to destroy the country, so it is interesting that you even brought it up.

 

We already know...and even Angela merkell herself admitted, that millions of the migrants to Europe during that mass immigration crisis were not even Syrian, despite pretending to be...and many were not even the age they pretended to be as the Swedish dentist pointed out (and was thrown in prison for). The reality is that Syrians did not all have to flee Syria, so they didn't. The excuses for mass immigration were simply wrong...so this is a silly comparison.

 

Unlike Syria, Israel actually could potentially empty out gaza (although they are kinda losing to hamas right now)...and all those people will be shipped to the west. Many to Canada? Sure, why not?

 

But it is funny how you are changing the subject from already changing the subject. What do you think of my analysis for the reason to make antisemitism illegal? That was the heart of the issue, remember?

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

Why are you changing the subject toSyria?

I'm not?  I'm referencing a very recent, but far larger, refugee crisis in the region where we Canada only took in ~42k, while you're drawing up scenarios were a million Gazans come to Canada. "real talk".    

 

[I am Groot]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

So take someone to court over that.

And your idea that supporting Palestinian rights = supporting Hamas simply shows your mind is as closed as a nun's you know what

I pointed out why it was dumb to try to separate Hamas from Palestinians. Do you think people were going around protesting for German rights in 1944 and demanding no more Germans be killed because really it's just the Nazi party at fault? The idea is ridiculous. 

[I am Groot]

5 hours ago, Five of swords said:

\So let me explain what is really happening here. Real talk. The truth is that Israel doesn't want palestinians to be in gaza anymore...because their proximity is a security risk.

Nobody wants Palestinians anymore. They've proven to be a security risk everywhere they've gone in numbers.

5 hours ago, Five of swords said:

So really, Israel would really love palestinians to be relocated to Canada. Canada is a convenient dumping ground for israel...just as they dumped all those Ethiopian 'jews' here.

I'm sure Israel would be happy if all the Palestinians relocated and vice versa but that's not going to happen. I believe over 150k Ethiopian Jews moved to Israel or were secretly flown there by Israel. I know nothing about Ethiopian Jews coming to Canada. How many were they and why?

 

5 hours ago, Five of swords said:

But this is a futile display because the fact of the matter is that the Palestinians will be coming here, regardless of what Canadians think about it. And they will be hating jews regardless of how legal it is to hate jews. 

I suppose given how absurd our refuge system is some will be coming here. But hopefully, not that many, and hopefully once the Conservative get in they'll do something drastic about our failed refugee system to stop further migrants.

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Nobody wants Palestinians anymore

Recall when no one wanted any Jewish refugees - the sentiment that started us down this twisted ironic road.

Is the irony lost on you or do you get it?

[I am Groot]

19 hours ago, eyeball said:

Recall when no one wanted any Jewish refugees - the sentiment that started us down this twisted ironic road.

Is the irony lost on you or do you get it?

Nobody wanted Jews because of religious hate. Nobody wants Palestinians, most especially their co-religionists, because of their behaviour in the countries where they settle in large numbers. They have been thrown out of Egypt, Kuwait, Jordan and Lebanon.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Nobody wanted Jews because of religious hate. Nobody wants Palestinians, most especially their co-religionists, because of their behaviour in the countries where they settle in large numbers. They have been thrown out of Egypt, Kuwait, Jordan and Lebanon.

They don't like them any more than we liked Jews when we turned them away. Why is neither here nor there, unlike the consequences of all this hate.

We have ourselves to thank for much of the mess our past attitude towards Jewish refugees helped cause and afaic that behooves us to take as many Palestinian refugees from Gaza as can make it here.

Blowback just is what it is.

 

[Five of swords]

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

They don't like them any more than we liked Jews when we turned them away. Why is neither here nor there, unlike the consequences of all this hate.

We have ourselves to thank for much of the mess our past attitude towards Jewish refugees helped cause and afaic that behooves us to take as many Palestinian refugees from Gaza as can make it here.

Blowback just is what it is.

 

Dude...if you are talking about the usa turning away the cruise ship with a bunch of jews from hitler's Germany, it is literally because the us suspected they were spies. It had nothing to do with antisemitism. Hitler had brought spies to the usa before under exactly the same cover.

 

But the reason the usa historically did not want jews, like why the 1927 immigration bill tried very much to avoid importing jews, it is because they tend to dominate trade and finance and many people were worried they would just wind up taking over the usa with their connections to banking money.

 

Antisemitism, I guess...but nothing to do with religion. 

Edited July 21, 2024 by Five of swords

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

Dude...if you are talking about the usa turning away the cruise ship with a bunch of jews from hitler's Germany, it is literally because the us suspected they were spies. It had nothing to do with antisemitism. Hitler had brought spies to the usa before under exactly the same cover.

Okay... you guys were pretty woke were you, the world's original SJW's?

But no, I'm talking about this dude. In Canada it was definitely about anti-Semitism.

Ivan Rand helped draft the 1946 blueprint on Palestine's future. Despite an antisemitic streak, by most accounts he 'tipped the scales' for Israel

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-unlikely-canadian-who-helped-create-the-state-of-israel

 

[PIK]

On 7/19/2024 at 3:08 PM, Five of swords said:

So...use some common sense. Israel is bombing all the hospitals in gaza, cutting off electricity and water and food delivery...bro, they want gaza to be unlivable. Arabs will be forced to leave, and yeah..the think tanks and politicians and media are already signaling that they should accept massive numbers of palestinians to live in their country. I don't think anyone is breaking down what exact number goes to what country...but a million to canada? Why not? Who would really bother to object to that?

 

That is the correct realpolitik strategy for Israel and if some random diaspora jews don't like it then oh well, they can always move to Israel.

 

The correct reverence for jews is basically summed up by that scene from the sopranos. 'Schlomo gets whatever he wants'. Cause they were victims of Hitler and/or because God chose them and/or they are so smart and funny. Pick your reason. Doesnt matter as long as jews get whatever they want and are shielded from 'antisemitism' (criticism of jews, especially politically motivated criticism).

Israel attacks military targets, with some mistakes. The problem is Hamas turned those Hosp and schools into military targets

12 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Dude...if you are talking about the usa turning away the cruise ship with a bunch of jews from hitler's Germany, it is literally because the us suspected they were spies. It had nothing to do with antisemitism. Hitler had brought spies to the usa before under exactly the same cover.

 

But the reason the usa historically did not want jews, like why the 1927 immigration bill tried very much to avoid importing jews, it is because they tend to dominate trade and finance and many people were worried they would just wind up taking over the usa with their connections to banking money.

 

Antisemitism, I guess...but nothing to do with religion. 

Canada turned jews away also.

[PIK]

On 7/19/2024 at 11:43 PM, eyeball said:

Recall when no one wanted any Jewish refugees - the sentiment that started us down this twisted ironic road.

Is the irony lost on you or do you get it?

The really sad part is their Arab brothers don't want them either. 

[Goddess]

Has anyone seen the videos of all  the damage left behind by these encampments?  It's disgusting. They dug trenches to take their p!ss and shit all over and apparently the whole place reeks of human waste.

Someone has to clean it all up.

[I am Groot]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

They don't like them any more than we liked Jews when we turned them away. Why is neither here nor there, unlike the consequences of all this hate.

We have ourselves to thank for much of the mess our past attitude towards Jewish refugees helped cause and afaic that behooves us to take as many Palestinian refugees from Gaza as can make it here.

Blowback just is what it is.

 

You're free to wallow in your white liberal guilt all you want. I don't ascribe every stupid thing done by a brown man somewhere in the world to white people. I think they have their own agency, make their own decisions based on their own hatred and ambition, all with little or no help from the evil white man.

[blackbird]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

Has anyone seen the videos of all  the damage left behind by these encampments?  It's disgusting. They dug trenches to take their p!ss and shit all over and apparently the whole place reeks of human waste.

Someone has to clean it all up.

There should be a plan for them to clean it up properly themselves or face jail time.

[herbie]

Prison! Punish! Divine Retribution!

our solution to everything.

Lock up the people that took so damn long to file injunctions too, eh?

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Prison! Punish! Divine Retribution!

our solution to everything.

No, but it's a solution to some things, like criminal behaviour. 

That's what you people over there on the far left just can't accept. It's why so many people in the Western world are turning away from you. 

If Trump wins, as seems likely, it will be due to the Democrats refusing to enforce the law in cities across the country, and refusing to enforce the law at their southern border. 

And when Trudeau and Singh get the boot the reasons will be almost exactly the same. Refusing to enforce the law, and refusing to block all the illegals flooding into the country.

Edited July 21, 2024 by I am Groot

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On 7/19/2024 at 3:20 PM, Five of swords said:

Unlike Syria, Israel actually could potentially empty out gaza (although they are kinda losing to hamas right now)...and all those people will be shipped to the west. Many to Canada? Sure, why not?

1. The only way Israel could potentially empty out Gaza, is by genocide. Right now, Israel is not even remotely close to emptying out Gaza. Egypt, Jordan, and other Arab nations are refusing to take them in.

2. How is Israel "losing" to Hamas?

3. Canada has only pledged to take in 5,000 Palestinian refugees.

 

so many questions...

 

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21 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Dude...if you are talking about the usa turning away the cruise ship with a bunch of jews from hitler's Germany, it is literally because the us suspected they were spies. It had nothing to do with antisemitism. Hitler had brought spies to the usa before under exactly the same cover.

The US refused to give refuge to Jews, considering it was the Great Depression, and most countires had tightened their immigration quotas, especially to Jews. It had literally nothing to do with being "spies" as the persecution of Jews was well known to the Western World.   

25 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

And when Trudeau and Singh get the boot the reasons will be almost exactly the same. Refusing to enforce the law, and refusing to block all the illegals flooding into the country.

Illegals are not "flooding" Canada. It's non-permanent residents that the Government has let in.

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On 7/19/2024 at 2:08 PM, Five of swords said:

So...use some common sense. Israel is bombing all the hospitals in gaza, cutting off electricity and water and food delivery...bro, they want gaza to be unlivable. Arabs will be forced to leave, and yeah..the think tanks and politicians and media are already signaling that they should accept massive numbers of palestinians to live in their country. I don't think anyone is breaking down what exact number goes to what country...but a million to canada? Why not? Who would really bother to object to that?

Actually, they have already published exact numbers. Canada has agreed to admit 5,000 Palestinian refugees, no more than that. No country is foolish to take in anywhere near 1,000,000 Palestinians.  99.9% of the Canadian population would be completely against a number over 50,000, and it would be political suicide to admit that many refugees, considering the backlash of admitting 2.3 million people to Canada since 2022.

Edited July 21, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[herbie]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

That's what you people over there on the far left just can't accept.

The people on the far left want to lock you up too, in re-education camps.
Those of us barely left of center know that's pointless. You're so far right you think that means 'correct'.

Trudeau the tool of corporate interests is far left cuz he occasionally stands up to them. And milquetoast Singh that occasionally stands up for the real left. Yuh gotcha.

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, PIK said:

The really sad part is their Arab brothers don't want them either. 

It's all really sad. Jews and Palestinians were both handed a shitty deal and it's up to those, including us, who had a hand in handing it to them to help fix it. Taking in refugees from the mess we helped create will be part of that.

Presumably we've progressed somewhat in the last 80 years or so since we last turned refugees away because we hated them -  especially now that we can see where the consequences can lead.

[PIK]

49 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's all really sad. Jews and Palestinians were both handed a shitty deal and it's up to those, including us, who had a hand in handing it to them to help fix it. Taking in refugees from the mess we helped create will be part of that.

Presumably we've progressed somewhat in the last 80 years or so since we last turned refugees away because we hated them -  especially now that we can see where the consequences can lead.

You and I and everyone else had nothing to do with it. It's been going on forever.