LILLEY: Democrats say words are violence, what about theirs?

[blackbird]

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After months of Donald Trump being described as a dictator and a threat to democracy that must be stopped, someone tried, not with a better campaign but a volley of bullets. America’s rage boiled over on Saturday, but not before political and business leaders opposed to Trump spent months raising the temperature.

“It’s time to put Trump in the bullseye,” Biden told donors in early July, according to New Times reporter Kenneth P. Vogel.

Just two weeks earlier, Biden told supporters that Trump was a threat to America’s existence.

“Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation. That is not hyperbole. He’s a threat to our freedom. He’s a threat to our democracy,” Biden said, adding that he wouldn’t let Trump destroy America just before the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

It’s not just Biden using over-the-top rhetoric about Trump; former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in an interview on MSNBC that Trump is an authoritarian autocrat and if he wins the election, he’s not someone that Democrats can cooperate with.

“This is something that is undermining our democracy, and he must be stopped. He cannot be president!” Pelosi said.

Meanwhile, MSNBC host Joy Reid called Trump Hitler in a video posted to social media and said that her goal was to “ keep Hitler out the White House .”

Reid isn’t alone with the Hitler comparison. The left-wing magazine, the New Republic , published their latest issue with a cover that transformed a Hitler campaign photo from 1932 into Trump’s face.

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LILLEY: Democrats say words are violence, what about theirs? (msn.com)

Edited July 15, 2024 by blackbird

[Five of swords]

Well this is why the democrats will always beat the gop. Democrats actually have the courage to fight their enemies. The gop are just cowards and none of them believe anything they themselves are saying.

 

The gop talks all the time about what a threat to democracy the democrats are. Always have. According to the gop, the democrats are Satan worshipping pedophiles and oh also Hitler. Alex Jones says stuff like that all the time.

 

But this never seems to result in assassination attempts on liberal politicians. Not by Republicans, at least. Maybe by jilted lovers or by the mafia or something.

 

This is because the gop are all cowards.

 

You can easily tell there is no literal Hitler in the usa right now because a literally Hitler would have taken this country over with very little effort.

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Well this is why the democrats will always beat the gop. Democrats actually have the courage to fight their enemies. The gop are just cowards and none of them believe anything they themselves are saying.

 

The gop talks all the time about what a threat to democracy the democrats are. Always have. According to the gop, the democrats are Satan worshipping pedophiles and oh also Hitler. Alex Jones says stuff like that all the time.

 

But this never seems to result in assassination attempts on liberal politicians. Not by Republicans, at least. Maybe by jilted lovers or by the mafia or something.

 

This is because the gop are all cowards.

 

You can easily tell there is no literal Hitler in the usa right now because a literally Hitler would have taken this country over with very little effort.

Hmmm...

[robosmith]

19 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Well this is why the democrats will always beat the gop. Democrats actually have the courage to fight their enemies. The gop are just cowards and none of them believe anything they themselves are saying.

 

The gop talks all the time about what a threat to democracy the democrats are. Always have. According to the gop, the democrats are Satan worshipping pedophiles and oh also Hitler. Alex Jones says stuff like that all the time.

 

But this never seems to result in assassination attempts on liberal politicians. Not by Republicans, at least. Maybe by jilted lovers or by the mafia or something.

 

This is because the gop are all cowards.

 

You can easily tell there is no literal Hitler in the usa right now because a literally Hitler would have taken this country over with very little effort.

Apparently you're unfamiliar with the story of JFK and Lee Harvey Oswald. Of course ALSO RFK, though his assassin was not a Republican. Then there was Harvey Milk. I'm sure there were more....

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

quote

After months of Donald Trump being described as a dictator and a threat to democracy that must be stopped, someone tried, not with a better campaign but a volley of bullets. America’s rage boiled over on Saturday, but not before political and business leaders opposed to Trump spent months raising the temperature.

“It’s time to put Trump in the bullseye,” Biden told donors in early July, according to New Times reporter Kenneth P. Vogel.

Just two weeks earlier, Biden told supporters that Trump was a threat to America’s existence.

“Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation. That is not hyperbole. He’s a threat to our freedom. He’s a threat to our democracy,” Biden said, adding that he wouldn’t let Trump destroy America just before the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

It’s not just Biden using over-the-top rhetoric about Trump; former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in an interview on MSNBC that Trump is an authoritarian autocrat and if he wins the election, he’s not someone that Democrats can cooperate with.

“This is something that is undermining our democracy, and he must be stopped. He cannot be president!” Pelosi said.

Meanwhile, MSNBC host Joy Reid called Trump Hitler in a video posted to social media and said that her goal was to “ keep Hitler out the White House .”

Reid isn’t alone with the Hitler comparison. The left-wing magazine, the New Republic , published their latest issue with a cover that transformed a Hitler campaign photo from 1932 into Trump’s face.

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LILLEY: Democrats say words are violence, what about theirs? (msn.com)

There is no comparison between any incitement to violence by any Democrats in comparison to the perpetual and prolific incitement by Trump and his MAGA GOONS.

Long list of MAGA GOONS responding to Trump's wishes by attacking people and even longer list of those getting death threats.

People call Trump Hitler because there are strong parallels between Trump and Hitler's rise to power AFTER he was jailed for an attempted insurrection.

Edited July 15, 2024 by robosmith

[User]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There is no comparison between any incitement to violence by any Democrats in comparison to the perpetual and prolific incitement by Trump and his MAGA GOONS.

The BLM summer of violence. More dead. More damage. More Police harmed and killed. 

All "incited" by Democrats and the political left. 

[Five of swords]

55 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Apparently you're unfamiliar with the story of JFK and Lee Harvey Oswald. Of course ALSO RFK, though his assassin was not a Republican. Then there was Harvey Milk. I'm sure there were more....

You missed my qualifier, I guess. "Not by republicans".

[Nationalist]

47 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There is no comparison between any incitement to violence by any Democrats in comparison to the perpetual and prolific incitement by Trump and his MAGA GOONS.

Long list of MAGA GOONS responding to Trump's wishes by attacking people and even longer list of those getting death threats.

People call Trump Hitler because there are strong parallels between Trump and Hitler's rise to power AFTER he was jailed for an attempted insurrection.

Well...you goofy little person, I've had a death threat. I save it to remind me just how sick you Tweenkies really are.

What comes around...goes around. 

Edited July 15, 2024 by Nationalist

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Well this is why the democrats will always beat the gop. Democrats actually have the courage to fight their enemies. The gop are just cowards and none of them believe anything they themselves are saying.

 

The GOP has been in about as often as the dems, and trump's about to win again.  the republicans don't 'always lose' at all. Two terms for bush two for obama one each for biden and trump this century ,and trump about to win again. What makes you think republicans 'always' lose to the dems?

[Five of swords]

58 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The GOP has been in about as often as the dems, and trump's about to win again.  the republicans don't 'always lose' at all. Two terms for bush two for obama one each for biden and trump this century ,and trump about to win again. What makes you think republicans 'always' lose to the dems?

A 'republican' is just a Democrat from 10 years ago. They all go the same direction, democrats just catch on faster

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

A 'republican' is just a Democrat from 10 years ago. They all go the same direction, democrats just catch on faster

So trump is the same as democrats were 10 years ago. 

Sigh. 

 

[Deluge]

12 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Well this is why the democrats will always beat the gop. Democrats actually have the courage to fight their enemies. The gop are just cowards and none of them believe anything they themselves are saying.

 

The gop talks all the time about what a threat to democracy the democrats are. Always have. According to the gop, the democrats are Satan worshipping pedophiles and oh also Hitler. Alex Jones says stuff like that all the time.

 

But this never seems to result in assassination attempts on liberal politicians. Not by Republicans, at least. Maybe by jilted lovers or by the mafia or something.

 

This is because the gop are all cowards.

 

You can easily tell there is no literal Hitler in the usa right now because a literally Hitler would have taken this country over with very little effort.

You're talking about the Republicants and I agree with you.

This is why we have MAGA; to get rid of the RINO's and to neutralize the woke democrat cultists. 

[ironstone]

I would rather not hear any nasty rhetoric from either side of the political spectrum but there is certainly more of it coming from the left. They all read from the same script.

We see it right here in this forum, over and over again. Comparisons to Hitler. Hitler was responsible for millions upon millions of deaths. He was responsible for the concentration camps, crematoriums running day and night. And people in here think Donald Trump is a modern day Adolph Hitler. People that are intellectually weak are vulnerable to this kind of propaganda and can become radicalized in their own right.

Perhaps it was the goal all along to get just one person riled up enough to want to grab that rifle.

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, ironstone said:

We see it right here in this forum, over and over again. Comparisons to Hitler....

...Perhaps it was the goal all along to get just one person riled up enough to want to grab that rifle.

If that's the case it's a wonder no one has shot Trudeau yet.

[ironstone]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

If that's the case it's a wonder no one has shot Trudeau yet.

There are a lot of people that dislike Trudeau and there are also nasty insults directed towards him. I don't like him either, but under no circumstances do I want him or any other politician to be the target of an assassination attempt. Some of his policies can be considered authoritarian in nature but he isn't Hitler.

This what comes up when Trump Hitler is put into a search engine:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+hitler+comparisons&atb=v404-1&ia=web

From Newsweek, Washington Post, ABC News, Vox, PBS....

What do they think is going to happen when they claim there is a present day Hitler running for president?

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, ironstone said:

What do they think is going to happen when they claim there is a present day Hitler running for president?

An assassination attempt by a disgruntled/dismayed Republican apparently.

Seriously though it's hard to imagine how such a young person could get so riled up enough to feel motivated to do this.

It'll be interesting to see what sort of influence he was under that pushed him over that edge.  I just hope it isn't some nascent form of virulent ageism manifesting itself.

Edited July 15, 2024 by eyeball

[Five of swords]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So trump is the same as democrats were 10 years ago. 

Sigh. 

 

For example, Obama was opposed to same sex marriage in 2008.

 

Bernie sanders was opposed to mass immigration in 2008.

Edited July 15, 2024 by Five of swords

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

If that's the case it's a wonder no one has shot Trudeau yet.

Trudeau is a leftwinger. Responsible gun owners are mostly conservatives.  Responsible gun owners in Canada don't shoot people. 

If he thought we would, he woudln't try to take their guns away. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Five of swords said:

For example, Obama was opposed to same sex marriage in 2008.

And you're instantly exactly the same as the democrats if you believe the same as one democrat did once upon a time?

Sounds more like 2008 obama was just like a republican rather than the other way around. 

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Bernie sanders was opposed to mass immigration in 2008.

There is no such thing as "Mass" immigration. It's a term uneducated people use because they've heard it and can't think for themselves.  How many immigrants do you need before it's  a 'Mass"?  Is 10 immigrants a 'mass'? Are we measuring the mass in Kg's?  Where do we go from just 'immigration'  to 'mass' immgration?

It's a meaningless childish phrase.  Obviously the intent is to mean something along the lines of 'excessive' immigration or the like but there's no definition, no frame of reference, Mad Max thought it sounded cool and used it once and people who don't care if their words mean anything use it now,

. Bernie sanders wasn't anti immigration.  And seeing as there's no definition for what a 'mass' of immigrants is he wasn't against that either. 

[Five of swords]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And you're instantly exactly the same as the democrats if you believe the same as one democrat did once upon a time?

Sounds more like 2008 obama was just like a republican rather than the other way around. 

There is no such thing as "Mass" immigration. It's a term uneducated people use because they've heard it and can't think for themselves.  How many immigrants do you need before it's  a 'Mass"?  Is 10 immigrants a 'mass'? Are we measuring the mass in Kg's?  Where do we go from just 'immigration'  to 'mass' immgration?

It's a meaningless childish phrase.  Obviously the intent is to mean something along the lines of 'excessive' immigration or the like but there's no definition, no frame of reference, Mad Max thought it sounded cool and used it once and people who don't care if their words mean anything use it now,

. Bernie sanders wasn't anti immigration.  And seeing as there's no definition for what a 'mass' of immigrants is he wasn't against that either. 

Bernie sanders was anti immigration https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/25/21143931/bernie-sanders-immigration-record-explained

 

Mass immigration is immigration at a rate that is deliberately designed to permanently alter the demographics of a country. It is basically a genocidal project.

Edited July 15, 2024 by Five of swords

[CdnFox]

47 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Bernie sanders was anti immigration https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/25/21143931/bernie-sanders-immigration-record-explained

No, he was anti foreign worker. 

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Mass immigration is immigration at a rate that is deliberately designed to permanently alter the demographics of a country. It is basically a genocidal project.

And where is that definition given? And ALL immigration alters the demographics of a nation. period.  As to the second part that it's immigration that leads to genocide - well then i guess it's never happened in the world so what's the problem? 

[Five of swords]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, he was anti foreign worker. 

And where is that definition given? And ALL immigration alters the demographics of a nation. period.  As to the second part that it's immigration that leads to genocide - well then i guess it's never happened in the world so what's the problem? 

Huh? Genocidal levels of immigration are quite ordinary and it is the norm throughout history. Maybe you don't know this but there weren't many white people in north America 1000 years ago.

Edited July 15, 2024 by Five of swords

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Huh? Ge ocidal levels of immigration are quite ordinary and it is thr norm throughout history.

Nope. 

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Maybe you don't know this but there weren't many white people in north America 1000 years ago.

Maybe you didn't know this but there's still first nations. So no genocide. 

Cultures evolve and assimilate but generally don't genocide. No culture on earth is the same as it was 300 years ago but that doesnt' mean there was a genocide. People come and go and things change, that's the case for all things. 

You're a very broken little individual aren't you. You've got a little hitler worship going on, you think immigration is genocidal, you think republicans are democrats...   Let me guess, a People's Party fan?

[Five of swords]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nope. 

Maybe you didn't know this but there's still first nations. So no genocide. 

Cultures evolve and assimilate but generally don't genocide. No culture on earth is the same as it was 300 years ago but that doesnt' mean there was a genocide. People come and go and things change, that's the case for all things. 

You're a very broken little individual aren't you. You've got a little hitler worship going on, you think immigration is genocidal, you think republicans are democrats...   Let me guess, a People's Party fan?

The only reason 'first nations' still exist is because a lot of Europeans felt kinda bad about the prospect of completing the genocide so they made reservations designed to preserve the few tribes remaining. Those aren't going to survive current mass immigration either.

 

The romans had no such reservations and no roman survived the waves of Gothic immigration.

 

Cultures change. Yeah. Especially after a genocide. That is why I said it is ordinary.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

The only reason 'first nations' still exist is because a lot of Europeans felt kinda bad about the prospect of completing the genocide so they made reservations designed to preserve the few tribes remaining.

So you're saying there was no genocide.  

Well there you go. 🙄