Climate Change, definitions and refutation of the fairy tale.

[Goddess]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98qp79gj4no

I guess we are allowed to talk about geo-engineering now that it's no longer a conspiracy theory, but is a $135 billion dollar industry.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98qp79gj4no

I guess we are allowed to talk about geo-engineering now that it's no longer a conspiracy theory, but is a $135 billion dollar industry.

That's racist. 

[reason10]

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You are just crying about the definition of a word. Okay well...earth is a place.

You are stupid. There is no such thing as a global climate. M0ron.

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You are just asserting that the climate isn't changing. Well, the definition of the word climate is unrelated to whether the average global temperature is increasing.

THIS is why you uneducated !diots are losing the argument. You are now admitting that the climate change scam is just another word for global warming, WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN.

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And it is quite possible to be able to predict the global temperature is increasing while not knowing if it will rain in Lagos in exactly 30 days...there is no contradiction. Maybe local and very temporary weather is more difficult to predict.

Again, you are too STUPID to understand the definition of CLIMATE. There is NO global climate so what does not exist will not change. The earth DID NOT WARM when Algore said it would. The state of Florida was NOT submerged. So you !diots lost the argument. The term climate change to you m0rons is just another name for global warming.

And you wonder why everybody says you people are brain dead.

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[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, reason10 said:

You are stupid. There is no such thing as a global climate. M0ron.

THIS is why you uneducated !diots are losing the argument. You are now admitting that the climate change scam is just another word for global warming, WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN.

Again, you are too STUPID to understand the definition of CLIMATE. There is NO global climate so what does not exist will not change. The earth DID NOT WARM when Algore said it would. The state of Florida was NOT submerged. So you !diots lost the argument. The term climate change to you m0rons is just another name for global warming.

And you wonder why everybody says you people are brain dead.

It seems like you just deny that it is possible for the earth's climate to change. If the sun exploded do you think it might have a chance in changing rhe climate?

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Five of swords said:

It seems like you just deny that it is possible for the earth's climate to change. If the sun exploded do you think it might have a chance in changing rhe climate?

Let me guess - you lefties think man is making the sun expode now   How much is THAT tax going to cost us?

[reason10]

19 hours ago, Five of swords said:

It seems like you just deny that it is possible for the earth's climate to change. If the sun exploded do you think it might have a chance in changing rhe climate?

I have SCIENCE on my side.

 

CLIMATE is defined as prevailing weather conditions in a specific area over a specific time. The climate of Alaska is completely different from the climate of Florida.

So a global climate is impossible. If there comes an ice age, human activity will have NOTHING to do with it, such humans take up less than half of the land surface of the earth and most of the earth's surface is water.

You need to grow a brain. You're too stupid for this discussion.

[Five of swords]

29 minutes ago, reason10 said:

I have SCIENCE on my side.

 

CLIMATE is defined as prevailing weather conditions in a specific area over a specific time. The climate of Alaska is completely different from the climate of Florida.

So a global climate is impossible. If there comes an ice age, human activity will have NOTHING to do with it, such humans take up less than half of the land surface of the earth and most of the earth's surface is water.

You need to grow a brain. You're too stupid for this discussion.

So what if someone wanted to speak of the atmospheric conditions of earth as opposed to say, venus. If they happen to use the word 'climate' to describe that then would the universe explode from some logical contradiction woven into the fabric of the space time continuum? Oops, did I just do that?

[Five of swords]

41 minutes ago, reason10 said:

I have SCIENCE on my side.

 

CLIMATE is defined as prevailing weather conditions in a specific area over a specific time. The climate of Alaska is completely different from the climate of Florida.

So a global climate is impossible. If there comes an ice age, human activity will have NOTHING to do with it, such humans take up less than half of the land surface of the earth and most of the earth's surface is water.

You need to grow a brain. You're too stupid for this discussion.

You are actually just trying to argue linguistics lol...and it isn't even an argument it is just you being butthurt that a certain word is used to describe a certain phenomenon.

 

You know how science works? It is empirical. You have to run experiments and stuff. How exactly would you propose to run an experiment demonstrating that there is no average temperature on planet earth if we use the word 'climate' to describe it? Would translations of the word climate into other languages also cause thermometers to shatter? Or does this only work in English? I would love to see you try your experiment.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

You know how science works? It is empirical. You have to run experiments and stuff.

This from the guy who said you can't 'quote' history you just have to know it 🙄

If you're going to go down this road, then why don't you present some sort of evidence that referring to climate in a global sense is relevant in this case and what those numbers point to? I mean if all you're going to say is that climate can refer to whatever bodies you want then we might as well talk about the average temperature on earth and venus combined. Which we could do if we were talking about the solar system climate I suppose, but it wouldn't be very relevant to a discussion about the effects of climate change on earth.

So, present some research papers or the like which shows why the global average is a relevant number and what paying attention to it tells us. Otherwise he's kind of got a point

[Five of swords]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

This from the guy who said you can't 'quote' history you just have to know it 🙄

If you're going to go down this road, then why don't you present some sort of evidence that referring to climate in a global sense is relevant in this case and what those numbers point to? I mean if all you're going to say is that climate can refer to whatever bodies you want then we might as well talk about the average temperature on earth and venus combined. Which we could do if we were talking about the solar system climate I suppose, but it wouldn't be very relevant to a discussion about the effects of climate change on earth.

So, present some research papers or the like which shows why the global average is a relevant number and what paying attention to it tells us. Otherwise he's kind of got a point

Dude...what I claimed was that you cannot find the truth about what happened in ww2 from a Google search. There just is no internet link that will tell you any truth about this topic. You would be forced to read books and stuff and indeed if you want any depth you have to read books never even translated to English (or some that were, but the bronze plates were destroyed following ww2). But you can't do good faith discussion so you can't avoid strawmanning. I get it.

 

The fact that scientists use the term 'climate change' to refer to a recent increase in global temperature is just well known. I'm just going to dismiss that. I guess I could just inform you what 'ipcc' stands for in the UN ipcc report, but if you don't know this stuff then you lack the education to have a conversation on this subject.

Edited July 22 by Five of swords

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Dude...what I claimed was that you cannot find the truth about what happened in ww2 from a Google search.

No, you didn't.  You could easily have quoted texts or other sources which I could have looked up and I asked you to do that and you couldn't. It's very obvious you're understanding of science history or other advanced topics is at approximately a grade 10 level. So your credentials along those lines are a joke. 

Now back to the point. 

13 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

The fact that scientists use the term 'climate change' to refer to a recent increase in global temperature is just well known.

Nobody asked if it was well known. I asked why it was relevant.

And yet again magically you can't provide any sources or any kind of information as to why it's relevant. Apparently according to you there's absolutely no documentation out there that would explain why it's relevant. Or show that science research actually focuses on that other than just casually mentioning it in an interview.

I guess in your world's climate change is yet again another one of those things you can't actually learn about, you just have to know it's real and believe. 🙄 

[Five of swords]

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, you didn't.  You could easily have quoted texts or other sources which I could have looked up and I asked you to do that and you couldn't. It's very obvious you're understanding of science history or other advanced topics is at approximately a grade 10 level. So your credentials along those lines are a joke. 

Now back to the point. 

Nobody asked if it was well known. I asked why it was relevant.

And yet again magically you can't provide any sources or any kind of information as to why it's relevant. Apparently according to you there's absolutely no documentation out there that would explain why it's relevant. Or show that science research actually focuses on that other than just casually mentioning it in an interview.

I guess in your world's climate change is yet again another one of those things you can't actually learn about, you just have to know it's real and believe. 🙄 

So you agree that what term is used is irrelevant. Glad that is settled.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Five of swords said:

So you agree that what term is used is irrelevant. Glad that is settled.

Ahh!! you're illiterate! I see - that explains why you've never read anything and can't cite any works! You should have said so from the get go, i'm sure everyone would have had more sympathy and less scorn for your previous posts!  I knew your logic and scolastic skills were about a grade 10 but i didn't realize your reading comprehension was still grade school. 

you about finished looking stupid or did you want to continue for a bit?   

 

[Rebound]

On 7/18/2024 at 3:38 PM, Nationalist said:

From the link @Rebound posted...

Twit.

Your whole schtick is to accuse someone of being wrong, without explaining why they’re wrong, then you insult them. 
 

Oil prices rise because we and Western Europe embargoed Russia for invading Ukraine, and then Saudi Arabia got OPEC to raise prices. So explain which Biden policy caused the oil prices to increase. 

[User]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Oil prices rise because we and Western Europe embargoed Russia for invading Ukraine, and then Saudi Arabia got OPEC to raise prices. So explain which Biden policy caused the oil prices to increase. 

Oh gee... what possibly could he have done? Lets review:

Keystone pipeline officially canceled after Biden revokes key permit

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/09/tc-energy-terminates-keystone-xl-pipeline-project.html#:~:text=Keystone pipeline officially canceled after Biden revokes key permit,-Published Wed%2C Jun&text=Keystone XL was halted by,of the 1%2C200-mile project.

Biden cancels last oil and gas leases in Alaska’s Arctic Refuge, overturns sales held by Trump

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-cancels-last-oil-and-gas-leases-in-alaskas-arctic-refuge-overturns-sales-held-by-trump

Biden administration bans drilling in nearly half of Alaska petroleum reserve in sweeping win for climate advocates

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/19/climate/alaska-drilling-ban-biden-climate/index.html

Offshore oil and gas permitting plummets to 2-decade low under Biden

Without stable permitting and leasing, producers may leave for 'regions with a more predictable regulatory environment,' industry group says

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/offshore-oil-gas-permitting-plummets-two-decade-low-under-biden

 

[impartialobserver]

Of course, there is a correlation between energy costs and inflation. Mathematically, if you add a variable to the model.. the R-squared goes up. Hence, there will always be some correlation. The devil is in the details though. How much of the price increase of $1.00 (for example) can be DIRECTLY attributed to energy prices? Answer.. usually about 4 to 7%.