Ideological Capture Destroying Capitalism and Opportunity in Canada

[Zeitgeist]

This is an excellent article about how stakeholder capitalism is destroying capitalism and opportunity in Canada:

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/corporate-canada-betrayed-capitalism-now-it-has-been-betrayed

[Goddess]

Freeland, being on the board of the WEF, is a huge proponent of "stakeholder capitalism".

And Trudeau, of course, the Schwab protege, of whom Schwab bragged about "penetrating more than half of the Canadian cabinet."

It's a WEF invention.

Because our top people in gov't are beholden firstly to the WEF, Canada is the testing ground for the WEF agenda.

We can see how it's going.....although this Liberal gov't insists Canada is doing super.

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

 

Because our top people in gov't are beholden firstly to the WEF, Canada is the testing ground for the WEF agenda.

 

WEF influence beyond what is visible in the public forum is a conspiracy theory, period.  You will have no way to assess how their influence changes when Poilievre is the PM....

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

WEF influence beyond what is visible in the public forum is a conspiracy theory, period. 

Cite?

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You will have no way to assess how their influence changes when Poilievre is the PM....

Then how do you know it's a conspiracy theory?

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

WEF influence beyond what is visible in the public forum is a conspiracy theory, period. 

No it's not.

You can easily see what they promote on their website and it's no secret that Freeland and Trudeau are well invested in the WEF.

They are promoting that agenda in Canada.

[Goddess]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Cite?

There have been lots of MSM articles denying the influence of WEF policies on Canadian politicians, but Freeland sits on the board and Trudeau is a Schwab darling.  WEF is huge promoter of stakeholder capitalism, which Freeland talks about all the time.

Those are facts.

Read Schwab's The Great Reset - it's a blueprint for what those two are doing in Canada.

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"The Party,” which “told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.”

When reality doesn’t conform to the Party’s interests, the Party revises reality to achieve its own ends.

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Then how do you know it's a conspiracy theory?

Because it's unfalsifiable.  Adherents just "know" that there's some shadowy group pulling the settings.  

It's part of a paranoid and naive mindset.

[Goddess]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Adherents just "know" that there's some shadowy group pulling the settings. 

I "know" stakeholder capitalism is part of the WEF agenda because they talk about it and it's on their website.

I "know" Freeland has spoken of it admiringly.

I "know" she's on the WEF board.

I "know" it's not working out - per the original OP and well......what I see with my own eyes.

I will go with what I see and know, over your discussion-stopping comments with zero cites.

It served me well during covid - everything I posted about that, has been proven true.

"The Party,” which “told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.”

When reality doesn’t conform to the Party’s interests, the Party revises reality to achieve its own ends.

[CdnFox]

50 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Because it's unfalsifiable.t.

Oooo look at you, getting your money's worth out of that word of the day calendar  

And of course that's not true.  Unfalsifiable doesn't mean it's hard to disprove or you don't have that data right now, it means something which is by it's nature unprovable.  And that's not the case here.  I've noticed the left throwing that term around lately but sorry - not what you think it means. 

It would be relatively easy to demonstrate that there's no connection between WEF and the current gov't if that was the case, or that WEF ideology or concepts were not showing up in the canadian political activity of the day.  So it would not be hard to reasonably disprove. 

For example PP isn't allowing any of his people to participate in wef just to make sure that is plain. Easy peasy. 

However - there ARE close connections to the current gov't.  And much of the WEF talking points DO show up in our political agendas of the day. 

So there is actually evidence that you're wrong. 

So - where's the evidence that you're right? IF you're saying you have none then your statement is just bullshit you pulled out of your ass to defend your liberal buddies yet again. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

The other thing to note here is the degree to which fossil fuel companies are able to control the agenda to extend the consciousness of climate change denial.

 

The conspiracy people folks will be long dead and hated of/when the impacts are being felt.  I think it's when not if.

[CdnFox]

47 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

The other thing to note here is the degree to which fossil fuel companies are able to control the agenda to extend the consciousness of climate change denial.

So you follow your inability to defend your accusation about conspiracy theories with a conspiracy theory. 

Wow. 

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The conspiracy people folks will be long dead and hated of/when the impacts are being felt.  I think it's when not if.

I suppose by your logic that would make it unfalsifiable if we were to use the word as you do.   

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

The conspiracy people folks will be long dead and hated of/when the impacts are being felt.  I think it's when not if.

Just curious - I've read quite a few places that plant life on earth dies when CO2 levels reach 0.02 and that CO2 levels have risen from 0.03 to 0.04 over quite a few years - which is still far below what levels were at previous times in earth's history when plant life flourished and the earth was more bountiful.

Exactly how low do we wanna go here?

 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

Exactly how low do we wanna go here?

 

Hey - radicalist limbo dancing!  You may be on to something there.  They're experts at lowering the bar for 'crisis'! 

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And of course that's not true.  Unfalsifiable doesn't mean it's hard to disprove or you don't have that data right now, it means something which is by it's nature unprovable.

You know what the definition of unfalsifiable means, but the logical implications are beyond you. That tracks.  You're one of the only people on this forum that demands cites for negative claims.  🤣

20 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Just curious - I've read quite a few places that plant life on earth dies when CO2 levels reach 0.02 and that CO2 levels have risen from 0.03 to 0.04 over quite a few years

First, plants consume CO2.  I'll assume you know that. 

Second, CO2 in the atmosphere is measured in PPM.  

You'll have to show us your "sources".  

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Just curious - I've read quite a few places that plant life on earth dies when CO2 levels reach 0.02 and that CO2 levels have risen from 0.03 to 0.04 over quite a few years - which is still far below what levels were at previous times in earth's history when plant life flourished and the earth was more bountiful.

Exactly how low do we wanna go here?

 

I don't want to talk about the science with you.

 

I'm wondering if you think that the WEF and the elites are trying to take money out of the hands of working people as their goal, or one of them?

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

This is an excellent article about how stakeholder capitalism is destroying capitalism and opportunity in Canada:

By comparing the culprits that sold Canada out to a venal self interested traitor?

Good job.

Meanwhile, the OP articles main complaint seemed to be about climate change which makes me ask again, why? Temperatures are up, emissions are up, Trudeau even built you a pipeline. You people have won and you're still crying like babies.

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

First, plants consume CO2.  I'll assume you know that. 

First, Captain Obvious - that would be why plants die when CO2 levels get too low.

 

10 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Second, CO2 in the atmosphere is measured in PPM.  

Second, 419.3 parts per million expressed as a percentage is 0.04% of the elements making up the atmosphere.

There are a myriad of "sources" out there that confirm the 0.04....it's the same number climate alarmists use to scare the shit outta all the children.

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't want to talk about the science with you.

Very well, then.

 

[Michael Hardner]

56 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Very well, then.

 

Do you want to answer my other question?

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

There are a myriad of "sources" out there that confirm the 0.04....it's the same number climate alarmists use to scare the shit outta all the children.

I'll have to take your word on that.  Nobody knows skience better than you.  🙄

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

You know what the definition of unfalsifiable means, but the logical implications are beyond you. That tracks.  You're one of the only people on this forum that demands cites for negative claims.  

ROFLMAO  - oh look who's following me around making dumb observations without contributing after being made to look stupid in a different thread yet again  

The logical implications are that something is unprovable. This is definitely provable. Ergo  the person here with the logic problem would be you.

And honestly i almost never demand cites for anything, and half the time when i do it's ironically,   I usually look up my own research. That is when YOU'RE not looking up things to prove me right before i get the chance'

But i get why you'd lie about it   

16 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I'll have to take your word on that.  Nobody knows skience better than you.  🙄

I'm sure if she gives you a few minutes you'll find some research that proves her right.   

But it may be difficult for you to understand given you struggled for a month with the idea that 100 -50 was 50 . 

[Zeitgeist]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

By comparing the culprits that sold Canada out to a venal self interested traitor?

Good job.

Meanwhile, the OP articles main complaint seemed to be about climate change which makes me ask again, why? Temperatures are up, emissions are up, Trudeau even built you a pipeline. You people have won and you're still crying like babies.

Who are these people you keep lumping me and others with when you say, “You people”?   Painting everyone you disagree with with the same brush and assuming that they all have the same views on every issue is ignorant.

[eyeball]

42 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Who are these people you keep lumping me and others with when you say, “You people”?

I've told you people many many times but you never pay attention - hard-boiled right-wing conservatives. 

I might as well be saying you people who never pay attention.

You're all the same.

The only time you do pay attention is when someone refers to you as you people. Why is that, simply because of Don Cherry, seriously?

Edited July 5 by eyeball

[Nefarious Banana]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I've told you people many many times but you never pay attention - hard-boiled right-wing conservatives. 

I might as well be saying you people who never pay attention.

You're all the same.

"You people. you people,  . . . . "

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

"You people. you people,  . . . . "

It really gets under your thin skin doesn't it - that says a lot more about you don't you think?