Trump's new claims would have been nothing short of apologizing Hitler's invasion that started WWII

[Nationalist]

On 7/17/2024 at 12:51 PM, CdnFox said:

What we know is you're a spammer and a loon. 

And desperate as Hell. 

[WestCanMan]

On 7/17/2024 at 11:26 AM, CdnFox said:

You ARE the brain dead crowd  But seeing as you actually asked a real question in real english i'll indulge you.

"threat" is in the perception of the beholder.  Of course in many respects nato is supposed to be  a 'threat',  that's the whole point.  "If you attack any of us the rest will jump on you and blow you to sh*t."   Nato is by it's nature a 'deterrent'  construct and you can't have deterrence without threat. And it is  a very significant military power.  So if you see it as a threat then i guess it's a threat from your perspective. 

I don't think nato would be used offensively but in truth there's no way to know over time. Things change.

So you're saying you literally think he's virtuous and a genuis?

You are one weird guy.

 

A mor0n like myata has never heard of the Monroe Doctrine, he has no idea how the US would respond to Russia and Co. stting up camp in the Americas. He hasn't even heard of the Cuban missile crisis. 

Debating something like this with him is like racing up the stairs with Biden: both are easy to beat, but both will claim victory just because they don't know what's actually going on. 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

A mor0n like myata has never heard of the Monroe Doctrine, he has no idea how the US would respond to Russia and Co. stting up camp in the Americas. He hasn't even heard of the Cuban missile crisis. 

Debating something like this with him is like racing up the stairs with Biden: both are easy to beat, but both will claim victory just because they don't know what's actually going on. 

True.  He probably thinks the 'bay of pigs' was  an ocean-side fat lady's nudist camp. 

I mean i disagree with you about putin's motivations for the invasion and we've been frank with each other about that and agree to disagree, but NOBODY could claim that it was unreasonable to see nato as a potential threat. It's a massive armed force, and the region has a 2000 year history of one country making deals with the neighbour's and invading the next country over. You hear the neighbors sharpening their swords and practicing archery a lot more and you're going to have concerns   

Thinking about it it's probably hard for us to understand in North America. We have really never had to deal with much in the way of invasions and what little there was occurred centuries ago and was over in a short time.  We don't spend our time worrying about whether or not someone's going to come whipping across our border and take our lands. We're probably the only country in history that hasn't seriously had to worry about that. So we probably don't have the perspective of someone with thousands of years of history of the neighbors coming across the border on a pretty regular basis.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

True.  He probably thinks the 'bay of pigs' was  an ocean-side fat lady's nudist camp. 

If that was a movie, he'd be watching it. 

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I mean i disagree with you about putin's motivations for the invasion and we've been frank with each other about that and agree to disagree, but 1. NOBODY could claim that it was unreasonable to see nato as a potential threat. It's a massive armed force, and the region has a 2000 year history of one country making deals with the neighbour's and invading the next country over. You hear the neighbors sharpening their swords and practicing archery a lot more and you're going to have concerns   

2. Thinking about it it's probably hard for us to understand in North America. We have really never had to deal with much in the way of invasions and what little there was occurred centuries ago and was over in a short time.  We don't spend our time worrying about whether or not someone's going to come whipping across our border and take our lands. We're probably the only country in history that hasn't seriously had to worry about that. So we probably don't have the perspective of someone with thousands of years of history of the neighbors coming across the border on a pretty regular basis.

1. And that's just today's version of NATO. The fact is that once they're there, they're probably not going anywhere for a while, and who knows what the political situation will be like 100 years from now. 

I never would have predicted how far America would decline between 2014 and 2024, and that's just ten years and one country.

2. We're so sheltered in Canada it's nuts. We're the second largest country on earth and we have one neighbour. Brazil has ten. Russia has more than a dozen. Most countries, even small ones, have 3 borders, and for an average-sized country, 5-7 is normal, and they're usually surrounded. Not to mention that they've probably been at war with one or all of those countries at some point in time. 

Even little Israel - smaller than Vancouver Island - has 4 neighbours (5 including Gaza and the West bank as one country), and Saudi Arabia is only 20 Km away. 

When you consider how sheltered we are, we're really opinionated about how friendly other countries should be with each other. We're like a bunch of Orange County housewives talking about 'who's the laziest fisherman on a "Deadliest Catch" episode'... We're not exactly experts on getting along with a bunch of different neighbours. We can't even get along with India, and they're 10,000 km away...

[myata]

One only has to try to make sense what liars are saying: no need to add anything they'll spill it all, lay it as bare as they are. Just look:

A violent, brutal psycho, recidivist bandit, multiple hardly countable violent offenses he isn't a psycho really, no: he needs to be nourished, pandered, understood and above all never "provoked" whatever you do. Right, you are with them so far?

No, it's you who is a "psycho" for noticing and bringing up the bizarrity and nonsense of that idea in plain common human language. How does that work for you?

A violent psycho, he isn't really that: you are. You think its a joke, random nonsense? Not so: a strategy, plan. You have to forget and abandon all what you know and learned, all what you are. You have to learn to accept without checking, without a flash of thought all and anything that the Guru spits out his lying cheeks as the only truth, final and ultimate. Only then will you be cleansed enough to enter the cult and adore its Guru. That is the plan.

And none of that is some fantasy. All of it has already happened and note, this same exact way. You will have to abandon everything you know and are to embrace the cult.

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, myata said:

A violent, brutal psycho, recidivist bandit, multiple hardly countable violent offenses he isn't a psycho really, no: he needs to be nourished, pandered, understood and above all never "provoked" whatever you do. Right, you are with them so far?

Sigh - for the last time we're not going to nourish, pander to or try to understand you no matter how much you try to provoke us. 

[myata]

It's plain and simple a sanity test:

"A violent psycho felt threatened by the security guard in the mall and had no choice but to go on a rampage and blow it up. He needs to be soothed, understood and given some gifts to restore "peace"".

Do you agree? Did you nod and clap? Only a sanity test. The lying mob wants all of it, nothing less.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, myata said:

It's plain and simple a sanity test:

 

Yes, and you've failed. 

So we're asking you to try again. Start speaking in plain english, identify who you're talking to or about, make your point or ask intelligent clear questions. 

it's really not that hard. You're current score is an F-,  see if you can work your way up to at least a C

[myata]

As simple as it gets, and will get, ever. So if you're nodding or clapping, try looking in the mirror: possibly, the last chance.

"A violent psycho felt threatened by the security guard in the mall and had no choice but to go on a rampage and blow it up. He needs to be soothed, understood and given some gifts to restore "peace"". 

Yes, yes, worship Him!!! or no way? As simple as it will ever get. Sure, we knew.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, myata said:

As simple as it gets, and will get, ever. So if you're nodding or clapping, try looking in the mirror: possibly, the last chance.

"A violent psycho felt threatened by the security guard in the mall and had no choice but to go on a rampage and blow it up. He needs to be soothed, understood and given some gifts to restore "peace"". 

Yes, yes, worship Him!!! or no way? As simple as it will ever get. Sure, we knew.

"As simple as it gets' and you still can't even say who you're talking to or what you're talking about or who the 'pscyho' is. And then demand i worship him. 

So what you're saying is you'd rather we didn't take you seriously and just made fun of you.  I assume that's what you mean seeing as you refuse to take even yourself seriously. 

No problem - we'll just go back to making fun.   But remember - you were given a chance. This was your choice. 

[Legato]

3 hours ago, myata said:

As simple as it gets, and will get, ever. So if you're nodding or clapping, try looking in the mirror: possibly, the last chance.

"A violent psycho felt threatened by the security guard in the mall and had no choice but to go on a rampage and blow it up. He needs to be soothed, understood and given some gifts to restore "peace"". 

Yes, yes, worship Him!!! or no way? As simple as it will ever get. Sure, we knew.

and here I thought only brooks babbled.

[myata]

Yes this is as easy as it gets and will get, ever: if a violent brutal psycho who's blown a shopping mall to dust is a poor hurt baby and those who stand up to him, monsters then there cannot be any doubt: something is wrong with you, not the world. No relativism.

And it happened exactly like this the last time. But now, and here: we knew. The difference.

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, myata said:

Yes this is as easy as it gets and will get, ever: if a violent brutal psycho who's blown a shopping mall to dust is a poor hurt baby and those who stand up to him, monsters then there cannot be any doubt: something is wrong with you, not the world. No relativism.

And it happened exactly like this the last time. But now, and here: we knew. The difference.

If you ever kill someone, submit this at your trial and they'll let you go on the grounds that you're mentally incompetent to stand trial. 

[myata]

It's very simple, really: if/when you notice yourself cheering for brutal, violent psycho; then thinking for him, and like him: it means that something is wrong with you, not the world. See the doctor, without delay! because the record shows that it can become permanent and incurable.

Edited July 19, 2024 by myata

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, myata said:

It's very simple, really: if/when you notice yourself cheering for brutal, violent psycho; then thinking for him, and like him: it means that something is wrong with you, not the world. See the doctor, without delay! because the record shows that it can become permanent and incurable.

It's very simple really, when you can't even say who you're talking to or who you're talking about and make baseless and confused semi-accusations that are incoherent, people will point and laugh at you 

Hey myata - we're pointing and laughing at you.   

 

[CouchPotato]

On 7/19/2024 at 10:29 AM, myata said:

It's plain and simple a sanity test:

"A violent psycho felt threatened by the security guard in the mall and had no choice but to go on a rampage and blow it up. He needs to be soothed, understood and given some gifts to restore "peace"".

Do you agree? Did you nod and clap? Only a sanity test. The lying mob wants all of it, nothing less.

Well, in some cases, you might have to soothe him. And you don't soothe him because you care about his feelings in and of themselves, but if he has a bomb and is in a position where he can detonate it if you advance toward him you have to be careful how you engage with him. When a criminal is in a position of power over a lot of people, the police might use negotiators. In most cases, no, of course we don't care about his feelies.

Putin is not some lone guy in a mall, though. He would be more like a criminal that lives on a big compound. Imagine a really big compound. A compound the size of... I don't know... let's say Russia. He doesn't have "a" bomb. He has a whole pile of bombs. Big scary ones. He isn't alone there, either. He has a group of well-armed people. This isn't just like some small group of body guards. You could almost say he has his own military, comparable to the one they might have in a country like... I don't know... let's say Russia. And imagine the compound is not in your country. In fact that compound declares itself a country, one that is way, way over on the other side of the globe. While a police force would be required to take out your shopping mall pyscho, they are not required to do so here. They don't even have jurisdiction. Now the police force in question does intervene sometimes in affairs well outside their domain, but they do not always do so and are not required to do so. So before they do intervene in any way, they think about whether it is tactically smart. Before they engage with him they think about things like how he might react, and how many people might end up dead.

[ironstone]

Trump stands out from the rest.

 

[myata]

18 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

A compound the size of... I don't know... let's say Russia. He doesn't have "a" bomb. He has a whole pile of bombs. Big scary ones. He isn't alone there, either. He has a group of well-armed people. This isn't just like some small group of body guards. You could almost say he has his own military, comparable to the one they might have in a country like... I don't know... let's say Russia.

None of this is new though. Hitler had it all. What do you want to say, really? If you give in to him, he'll see that you're weak and will come back for more. What is the answer?

If you read the news before the invasion in 2022 Putin was giving ultimatums to NATO, not Ukraine. He changed his tune in two years, he's losing loads of his voiceless cannon fodder daily and running out of his Soviet era junk. Standing to brutal thugs has worked through history and is working. Whatever Biden and the West are doing in my opinion, not enough but it's working, objectively and factually. Giving in to them - why talk, show one example when and where it worked.

[myata]

An illustration, in real life. You're looking for a contractor for a massive home reno. One has a record of accomplished work, it works, proven can be seen, your neighbor has one. And then, there's that blazing loudmouth I'll do it all, better than anyone and in a fingersnap just give me your dough. No record of success. Zero completed jobs. Very loud mouth though, and a bunch of squirmy salesfolk.

Go ahead, make your choice. Sure you have that right, with your money. But nothing, no talk no hoping and crying will take away the fact that dumb choices result in bad consequences. That is a law of nature and it can be tested any number of times always with the same outcome.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, myata said:

None of this is new though. Hitler had it all. What do you want to say, really? If you give in to him, he'll see that you're weak and will come back for more. What is the answer?

 

The answer was instead of a repressive treaty weakening and destroying germany and leaving it ripe for take over by anyone who could fix it, develop strong economic ties so that they are prosperous and dependent on you for that prosperity. Then if someone says 'hey, lets attack" they say 'oh hell no - i love my crumpets and fois gras, do NOT mess with it".  You don't generally feel inclined to attack the source of your income and financial security. 

Notice how the nazis didnt' attack switzerland? They relied on Switzerland for the economic prosperity and (shock!) they were never attacked. 

But that's too complicated for you.  You'd rather post incoherent babble and be a child than face some pretty basic realities. 

Now go back to playing with your lego and ask your mommy to change your diapers. 

[myata]

Go picking daisies with the ilk of Hitler; Stalin; Putin and many other thugs and watch them turn into rosy-cheeked little angels. Right. A strategy or an out-in-your-face bullsh*t lie? Your guess is as good as mine. But here's the thing: our ancestors knew. Reagan and Thatcher, they knew it. The difference.

[myata]

This time the lying felon received "a beautiful letter" from the authoritarian ruler Xi (Hong Kong democracy suppression) and of course, couldn't hold back the excitement. Stay tuned on his romance trek with the dictator scum of the planet. What could be the origin and nature of such an instant and natural attraction?

[CdnFox]

On 7/22/2024 at 4:27 AM, myata said:

Go picking daisies with the ilk of Hitler; Stalin; Putin and many other thugs and watch them turn into rosy-cheeked little angels. Right. A strategy or an out-in-your-face bullsh*t lie? Your guess is as good as mine. But here's the thing: our ancestors knew. Reagan and Thatcher, they knew it. The difference.

How do you manage to get dumber and less coherent every single day? 

[myata]

What is dumbness? Is it when its right before your eyes and yet you won't see it? Who is the next abhorrent thug he will go kissing with and groping over? Where? We have eyes to see and brains to understand what the eyes tell us.

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, myata said:

What is dumbness?