myata Posted July 9 Author Report Posted July 9 A reasonable, objective and informed individual with a working brain and memory cannot deny that Russia is doing all the same things as Hamas. There's ample factual evidence. A reasonable, etc. individual has to admit that six decades of occupation with no perspective of a solution could have driven some to support extremists such as Hamas. Nothing of the kind can relate to Russia. Nobody has ever threatened it. Nobody invaded it. No one took lands or property from it. Russia has taken a lot: Moldova; Georgia; Ukraine; Germany (Koenigsberg). Russia wants more of other people's lands, always. Only facts. Factually: Russia is worse than Hamas. With the nukes. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Nationalist Posted July 9 Report Posted July 9 6 hours ago, myata said: Russia is worse than Hamas. Proven. Russia was never occupied or threatened by her neighbors but she always, through her entire history tried to take land, conquer and subjugate those around her. Fact. Everyone has the right to be safe. Psycho doesn't get to decide who can be safe and who will be his next victim. Common sense and the condition of everyone's safety. Liars lie to excuse and normalize fascist thugs of our time. Like Hamas: only a notch worse. This much is obvious. Hilarious. Man do the veins in your temples bulge constantly? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 2 hours ago, myata said: Russia has been using civilians as human shields as far as Chechen war (1990-ies), and that's new Russia, overall probably forever. Yesterday, Russia bombed a children's hospital. Russia deliberately targets and kills civilians. Sure , But they don't actually use them as human shields. That's not a thing that's happening right now. And as we know hamas kills civvies too and even as we speak is still firing rockets at civvie targets in israel. Quote Russia is every bit as bad as Hamas: going only by the facts, and then nobody tried to occupy it, annex its lands, eject its people. Psycho claims that he was threatened and that's what made him go on a rampage. Don't shoot psycho on a rampage, never resist him! try to understand him and negotiate. Want to see how it works - they will show. In the psycho world - and why shouldn't they take psycho's word for it? That's your opinion but none of that is actually fact. And you're starting to babble again. Quote Russia is worse than Hamas. Liars will lie because they have nothing else to do or say. Sounds like you're lying Quote
CdnFox Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 1 hour ago, myata said: A reasonable, objective and informed individual with a working brain and memory cannot deny that Russia is doing all the same things as Hamas. There's ample factual evidence. They're not using their own children as human shields. That's a simple truth. Quote A reasonable, etc. individual has to admit that six decades of occupation with no perspective of a solution could have driven some to support extremists such as Hamas. It's 100 percent their fault to begin with. That's like saying if someone stabs themselves in the leg it's understandable they'd blame the knifemaker for it. Quote Nothing of the kind can relate to Russia. Nobody has ever threatened it. Nobody invaded it. No one took lands or property from it. So... apparently you havne't heard about ww2. It was a big deal. Quote Russia has taken a lot: Moldova; Georgia; Ukraine; Germany (Koenigsberg). Russia wants more of other people's lands, always. Sure. Quote Only facts. Factually: Russia is worse than Hamas. With the nukes. That's not a fact, that's an opinion. Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Hilarious. Man do the veins in your temples bulge constantly? Because there's no bloodflow on the inside of his crazium. It all goes to his mouth and his temple. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
Hodad Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 (edited) On 7/7/2024 at 5:10 PM, myata said: Well there you go: an open apology of abysmal brutality, violation of all and every norm and principle. New fascism in Europe in the plain sight and in our century. Just let them say it, they'll spill all hiding nothing. All of it, we saw and we knew. And notice how the little sneaky liar here subscribed to it. Hitler was misunderstood. He felt threatened and overreacted, poor thing. Aren't you already sympathetic, even a tiny-tidy bit? Yeah, it's not a mistake or a misunderstanding, he's just that vile. Full stop. Not to mention delusional. Edited July 10 by Hodad 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 10 hours ago, myata said: A reasonable, etc. individual has to admit that six decades of occupation with no perspective of a solution could have driven some to support extremists such as Hamas. Nothing of the kind can relate to Russia. Nobody has ever threatened it. Hmmm... myata...if Russia or China loaded Mexico up with military hardware and began encouraging anti- American sentiment, do you think the USA would just let it happen? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
myata Posted July 10 Author Report Posted July 10 Russia is worse than Hamas: proven. Russia is a fascist terrorist state: not "savvy genius". These are apologists of the worst kind of our day's fascism. They care nothing about facts and reality. And it's in the plain sight. No way we couldn't have known. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted July 10 Author Report Posted July 10 Liars lie: Norway; Poland; Baltic states; have a border with Russia. NATO never invaded Russia; it has never threatened Russia. It is there because of Russia: because she always threatened and invaded her neighbors. And now Finland joined NATO, with over a thousand of kilometers of border. So why do they lie, what makes them want to do it, despite and in the full view of obvious facts? Because they feel a deep, overpowering attachment to it: the worst fascism in our time, and one of the worst in the entire history. "Genius... savvy": in their own words. This is why. And it explains everything. And we knew. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 7 hours ago, Nationalist said: Hmmm... myata...if Russia or China loaded Mexico up with military hardware and began encouraging anti- American sentiment, do you think the USA would just let it happen? Or.... to pick another country completely at random... cuba? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 1 hour ago, myata said: Russia is worse than Hamas: proven. Russia is a fascist terrorist state: not "savvy genius". You can't just say 'proven' - that's a lie. It's your opinion. But Hamas and gaza are ALSO fascist terrorist states AND brutally repressive and extremely violent with their people, moreso than russia. So what makes russia worse? Everything you've accused them of Gaza has done as well and then some. Quote These are apologists of the worst kind of our day's fascism. They care nothing about facts and reality. And it's in the plain sight. No way we couldn't have known. Yeah, and they tend to support Palestine I think russia is bad. I also think hamas is bad. But somehow you want russia to be bad but hamas good. That's not rational. Also - you're slipping back into your wierdo way of talking - if you want to be taken seriously and have a discussion talk like a normal person and make your point. Quote
myata Posted July 10 Author Report Posted July 10 Well you can see it for yourself: cheering for brutal fascist psychos. Trying to understand them and explain their crimes. That's just isn't going anywhere: looks like a deep, natural? attraction. "Psycho felt threatened. He had no choice but to blow up the shopping mall". Look: the lying bunch wants us to take it as normal, like anything can be said, right? as normal. And then, what? What if we agree and accept it, as normal? Well: we don't need to guess anything, because it already happened and this, exactly, way. So, we know it all, everything. And the choice is ours. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 2 hours ago, myata said: Well you can see it for yourself: cheering for brutal fascist psychos. Trying to understand them and explain their crimes. That's just isn't going anywhere: looks like a deep, natural? attraction. "Psycho felt threatened. He had no choice but to blow up the shopping mall". Look: the lying bunch wants us to take it as normal, like anything can be said, right? as normal. And then, what? What if we agree and accept it, as normal? Well: we don't need to guess anything, because it already happened and this, exactly, way. So, we know it all, everything. And the choice is ours. a) nobody knows what the hell you're talking about - you've gone back to talking full re tard. b) nobody said the things you seem to be claiming were said c) nobody knows who you are talking to. You seem petrified to address people directly. d) this is why people think you're a mentally deficient helper monkey and look down on you. Do better. 1 Quote
Five of swords Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 On 6/21/2024 at 1:34 PM, myata said: In the podcast "All In": "he (Biden) constantly said the wrong things and one of the wrong things he said was that Ukraine would join NATO.” Trump said, “When I heard him talking, I thought: this guy is going to start a war.” The facts: the aggressor started this war. There are no, none, and cannot be any excuses for brutal and destructive aggression in Europe of this century. Undermining NATO: every free European and Northern American nation has the birth right to join the defense alliance of democracies. He is weakening and undermining NATO right at the time the new Axis of tyrants is rising. NATO is the only thing that stands in the way of their claim to rewrite the rules of the world. Trump is playing right into their hands. Saying that Ukraine in NATO would give Putin any justification for his brutal war is nothing short of claiming that Poland's defense pact with Great Britain was the cause of the WWII. In 1939 with the same words, he would have been apologizing for Hitler. So: it will be the citizenship test: nothing short of, and nothing less. Everybody knows what it will be about and what's at stake. No one could claim ignorance about what the options were and what they meant. No such excuses. Not a chance. World War 2 started when Britain and France declared war on Germany. It had nothing to do with anything Germany did. Neither country cited any harm Germany did to their own country. 2 Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 Just now, Five of swords said: World War 2 started when Britain and France declared war on Germany. It had nothing to do with anything Germany did. Neither country cited any harm Germany did to their own country. Hey dummy, would you do me a favour and take your BS into some of these leftard cultist threads here, and just lie your face off to them so that they know how we feel when we're reading their screed? Thanks a ton. You can f-off after that. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
Five of swords Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Hey dummy, would you do me a favour and take your BS into some of these leftard cultist threads here, and just lie your face off to them so that they know how we feel when we're reading their screed? Thanks a ton. You can f-off after that. Where is the lie? Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 5 hours ago, myata said: Well you can see it for yourself: cheering for brutal fascist psychos. Trying to understand them and explain their crimes. That's just isn't going anywhere: looks like a deep, natural? attraction. "Psycho felt threatened. He had no choice but to blow up the shopping mall". Look: the lying bunch wants us to take it as normal, like anything can be said, right? as normal. And then, what? What if we agree and accept it, as normal? Well: we don't need to guess anything, because it already happened and this, exactly, way. So, we know it all, everything. And the choice is ours. You are losing it, dude. FYI those voices in your head are not your friend. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
WestCanMan Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Where is the lie? You didn't notice Germany just kinda murdering people? With tanks and dive bombers and stuff? In Poland? It was hard to miss back in the day. Collapsed buildings and piles of dead bodies are quite noticeable. It's not like when you drive past the same old mall a bunch of times and then say "Hey, I didn't know there was an Applebees there!" Yeah, Germany attacked Poland, dude, and the British and French can ally themselves with whomever they want. Then if Germany doesn't like it, they can go to war with those guys as well. And they did. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
Five of swords Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: You didn't notice Germany just kinda murdering people? With tanks and dive bombers and stuff? In Poland? It was hard to miss back in the day. Collapsed buildings and piles of dead bodies are quite noticeable. It's not like when you drive past the same old mall a bunch of times and then say "Hey, I didn't know there was an Applebees there!" Yeah, Germany attacked Poland, dude, and the British and French can ally themselves with whomever they want. Then if Germany doesn't like it, they can go to war with those guys as well. And they did. Poland invaded danzig first. Germany reacted to that. The ussr also invaded Poland and nobody declared war on the ussr. Nor with their invasion of Finland... Britain and France didn't give a damn about the borders of Poland (or finland). They just hated germany. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Five of swords said: World War 2 started when Britain and France declared war on Germany. It had nothing to do with anything Germany did. Neither country cited any harm Germany did to their own country. Dude they invaded poland and both Britain and France had treaty commitments for if that happened. Quote
Five of swords Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Dude they invaded poland and both Britain and France had treaty commitments for if that happened. Britain and France did not care about Poland. That was purely an excuse. They didn't declare on the ussr when it invaded... Quote
CdnFox Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Five of swords said: Poland invaded danzig first. Germany reacted to that. The ussr also invaded Poland and nobody declared war on the ussr. Nor with their invasion of Finland... Britain and France didn't give a damn about the borders of Poland (or finland). They just hated germany. that's just plain wrong. like... not even close to being the truth. And britian had a treaty with poland, but not finland, and given what was happening in france they had no ability to respond to it. Meanwhile the germans were threatening france - of course that's going to be their first concern. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Britain and France did not care about Poland. That was purely an excuse. They didn't declare on the ussr when it invaded... It's not an excuse. Given the history and the threat that's just a ridiculous notion that is completely indefensible. And of course they didn't declare war on the USSR, they took hardly any space and the war was over before they could even send them a diplomatic note. Meanwhile germany had already begun to threaten France and The high countries and had a history of coming after France and Britain. Your premise is ridiculous. France and Britain very clearly considered germany to be a serious threat. They had tried appeasement and had received written assurances that Hitler wouldn't try to expand further and he did militarily. It has absolutely nothing to do with hating anybody. Germany was a serious threat who had invaded an ally after giving assurance they wouldn't and was now about to attack them. It's pretty simple why they declared war. Quote
Five of swords Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 (edited) 35 minutes ago, CdnFox said: It's not an excuse. Given the history and the threat that's just a ridiculous notion that is completely indefensible. And of course they didn't declare war on the USSR, they took hardly any space and the war was over before they could even send them a diplomatic note. Meanwhile germany had already begun to threaten France and The high countries and had a history of coming after France and Britain. Your premise is ridiculous. France and Britain very clearly considered germany to be a serious threat. They had tried appeasement and had received written assurances that Hitler wouldn't try to expand further and he did militarily. It has absolutely nothing to do with hating anybody. Germany was a serious threat who had invaded an ally after giving assurance they wouldn't and was now about to attack them. It's pretty simple why they declared war. Politians in Poland even wanted to concede and accept the peace deal Hitler offered, which included protection from the ussr. FDR demanded Poland not take that deal. You just don't seem to know the history, bro. Why would the uk care so much about Poland? Sure...Germany ended up being a threat after the uk declared war...and Hitler attempted peace a dozen times with thr uk...including when he had their entire army trapped at Dunkirk and he simply decided not to kill them all. Edited July 11 by Five of swords Quote
CdnFox Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 36 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Politians in Poland even wanted to concede and accept the peace deal Hitler offered, which included protection from the ussr. FDR demanded Poland not take that deal. You just don't seem to know the history, bro. Why would the uk care so much about Poland? Sure...Germany ended up being a threat after the uk declared war...and Hitler attempted peace a dozen times with thr uk...including when he had their entire army trapped at Dunkirk and he simply decided not to kill them all. Ok - so post some sources show us. Personally i think you're completely out to lunch about poland but if you've got sources then great. And the obvious reason the UK would care about poland is next is france and then britain. Which is pretty much precisely what happened. 🙄 World war 2 was just world war 1 continued in many ways. Quote
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