God bless our monarch - Queen Elizabeth

[Dougie93]

16 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

A fifth column can only act on behalf of a foreign country. 

a fifth column acts on behalf of an hostile foreign power

thus you are asserting the United Kingdom to be an enemy of Canada

sheer lunacy

[herbie]

7 hours ago, I am Groot said:

They decided it was better to honor a black hairdresser who once sat down in the wrong section of a theater

Yeah they did. Because she was just as valuable and important a Canadian as some old Prime Minister, more so than a Brit that was born speshul.
Terry Fox.
Coulda been Steve Fonyo, but he f*cked up and turned out to be a normal human just like John A. did. Not acceptable to some.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

a fifth column acts on behalf of an hostile foreign power

thus you are asserting the United Kingdom to be an enemy of Canada

sheer lunacy

Ok then it's just you wanting to destroy this country.

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, herbie said:

Yeah they did. Because she was just as valuable and important a Canadian as some old Prime Minister, more so than a Brit that was born speshul.
 

You have some intersting ideas of equality there. But then again, you don't believe in equality. You believe in equity. So I suppose under equity a black hairdresser who loved Canada so much she emigrated IS more important than a white man who put this country together, persuaded the British to grant it independence, and then built the national railroad to tie it together.

Edited May 28, 2024 by I am Groot

[SpankyMcFarland]

If we really need a monarch why not choose one that actually likes being here? Our traditional model has broken down in recent years with no visits from our head of state at all. Surely, we can find a person related to Charles who would want to live in Canada full-time? It’s not that awful.  

[blackbird]

On 5/25/2024 at 9:05 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

There is no "British Crown" in North American.  It died in America in 1776, and Canada in 1953. 

That is a not quite correct.  It is not correct to say there is no British Crown in North America because we share the same king as Britain and about 14 other countries.  Canada is a part of the Commonwealth Realm and King Charles III is the head of the Commonwealth Realm.  So King Charles III is the King of Canada as well as 14 other Commonwealth Realm countries.   Wikipedia describes it in detail:

"

The Commonwealth of Nations, often simply referred to as the Commonwealth,^[4] is an international association of 56 member states, the vast majority of which are former territories of the British Empire from which it developed.^[2] They are connected through their use of the English language and historical-cultural ties. The chief institutions of the organisation are the Commonwealth Secretariat, which focuses on intergovernmental relations, and the Commonwealth Foundation, which focuses on non-governmental relations between member nations.^[5] Numerous organisations are associated with and operate within the Commonwealth.^[6]

The Commonwealth dates back to the first half of the 20th century with the decolonisation of the British Empire through increased self-governance of its territories. It was originally created as the British Commonwealth of Nations^[7] through the Balfour Declaration at the 1926 Imperial Conference, and formalised by the United Kingdom through the Statute of Westminster in 1931. The current Commonwealth of Nations was formally constituted by the London Declaration in 1949, which modernised the community and established the member states as "free and equal".^[8]

The Head of the Commonwealth is Charles III. He is king of 15 member states, known as the Commonwealth realms, whilst 36 other members are republics, and five others have different monarchs. Although he became head upon the death of his mother, Elizabeth II, the position is not technically hereditary.^[9]

Member states have no legal obligations to one another, though some have institutional links to other Commonwealth nations. Citizenship of a Commonwealth country affords benefits in some member countries, particularly in the United Kingdom, and Commonwealth countries are represented to one another by high commissions rather than embassies. The Commonwealth Charter defines their shared values of democracy, human rights and the rule of law,^[10] as promoted by the quadrennial Commonwealth Games. "

Commonwealth of Nations - Wikipedia

I would question one thing Wikipedia said in the information above.  It said "Although he became head upon the death of his mother, Elizabeth II, the position is not technically hereditary.[9]"  Since when has the position not been hereditary.  Never heard of such a thing.  Nobody questions King Charles III's right to be king.  

Edited August 27, 2024 by blackbird

[Moonlight Graham]

On 8/26/2024 at 9:59 PM, blackbird said:

That is a not quite correct.  It is not correct to say there is no British Crown in North America because we share the same king as Britain and about 14 other countries.  Canada is a part of the Commonwealth Realm and King Charles III is the head of the Commonwealth Realm.  So King Charles III is the King of Canada as well as 14 other Commonwealth Realm countries.   Wikipedia describes it in detail:

"

The Commonwealth of Nations, often simply referred to as the Commonwealth,^[4] is an international association of 56 member states, the vast majority of which are former territories of the British Empire from which it developed.^[2] They are connected through their use of the English language and historical-cultural ties. The chief institutions of the organisation are the Commonwealth Secretariat, which focuses on intergovernmental relations, and the Commonwealth Foundation, which focuses on non-governmental relations between member nations.^[5] Numerous organisations are associated with and operate within the Commonwealth.^[6]

The Commonwealth dates back to the first half of the 20th century with the decolonisation of the British Empire through increased self-governance of its territories. It was originally created as the British Commonwealth of Nations^[7] through the Balfour Declaration at the 1926 Imperial Conference, and formalised by the United Kingdom through the Statute of Westminster in 1931. The current Commonwealth of Nations was formally constituted by the London Declaration in 1949, which modernised the community and established the member states as "free and equal".^[8]

The Head of the Commonwealth is Charles III. He is king of 15 member states, known as the Commonwealth realms, whilst 36 other members are republics, and five others have different monarchs. Although he became head upon the death of his mother, Elizabeth II, the position is not technically hereditary.^[9]

Member states have no legal obligations to one another, though some have institutional links to other Commonwealth nations. Citizenship of a Commonwealth country affords benefits in some member countries, particularly in the United Kingdom, and Commonwealth countries are represented to one another by high commissions rather than embassies. The Commonwealth Charter defines their shared values of democracy, human rights and the rule of law,^[10] as promoted by the quadrennial Commonwealth Games. "

Commonwealth of Nations - Wikipedia

I would question one thing Wikipedia said in the information above.  It said "Although he became head upon the death of his mother, Elizabeth II, the position is not technically hereditary.[9]"  Since when has the position not been hereditary.  Never heard of such a thing.  Nobody questions King Charles III's right to be king.  

It isn't the "British" commonwealth anymore though.  All members of the commonwealth are equal members.  The British Crown in Canada has as much relevance as calling it the Australian Crown.  Legally it is called the Canadian Crown and King Charles is the King of Canada.  They're separate titles.  Canada is no longer a vassal of Britain.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It isn't the "British" commonwealth anymore though.  All members of the commonwealth are equal members.  The British Crown in Canada has as much relevance as calling it the Australian Crown.  Legally it is called the Canadian Crown and King Charles is the King of Canada.  They're separate titles.  Canada is no longer a vassal of Britain.

I know what you mean.  I didn't say it was the British Commonwealth.  I think the word British was dropped some time ago.  We still share the same King and are part of one commonwealth.  I don't think the word equal comes into it.  Each country or realm is independent.  We are not subject to Britain in any way.  But we do share a similar culture and language.  So we have a lot in common.

The annoying part is I think Quebec liberals are trying to turn English Canada into a kind of third world multicultural group and thereby diminish our English roots while making French the only language allowed in Quebec.

Edited August 28, 2024 by blackbird

[Dougie93]

32 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I know what you mean.  I didn't say it was the British Commonwealth.

the Commonwealth is nothing

it's not a political alliance

it's not a military alliance

it has no legal standing whatsoever

the two largest members of the Commonwealth are India & Pakistan

both republics which despise the British Crown

Pakistan supporting the Taliban against HM Canadian Army in war

India conducting targeted assassinations of Canadian citizens on Canadian soil

[Dougie93]

48 minutes ago, blackbird said:

  We still share the same King and are part of one commonwealth.

again, that is not the case

36 of the 56 members of the Commonwealth are republics with no fealty to HM The King whatsoever

the actual Anglo-American Alliance is the United Kingdom United States Agreement ( UKUSA )

the only members are America, Britain, Canada. Australia & New Zealand

[Five of swords]

On 5/20/2024 at 12:38 PM, I am Groot said:

This is either another story of the disregard and disinterest the Trudeau government has in anything related to English Canada's historical and traditional ties with Britain or another sad tale of the bureaucratic inertia in Ottawa. It seems that a year after the Queen's death no one in the Canadian government seems  much interested in making any changes to anything to update our official monarch. it will take at least another three years, apparently, to get Charles' picture on the $20 bill or on passports. And no one seems to have a clue as to when the official portraits hanging in government buildings and embassies might be replaced. I think it's a combination of almost comically inepct bureaucracy and a total lack of interest and respect by Trudeau and his leftist cadre for anything related to our monarchy.

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/justin-trudeau-lets-king-charles-down-again

Dude...the British royalty is irrelevant. England has been irrelevant ever since it 'won' ww2. You haven't noticed?

[I am Groot]

11 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Dude...the British royalty is irrelevant. England has been irrelevant ever since it 'won' ww2. You haven't noticed?

If one cares about Canada's heritage and traditions, one cares about the monarchy.

Otherwise not.

[Five of swords]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

If one cares about Canada's heritage and traditions, one cares about the monarchy.

Otherwise not.

So in other words, nobody. The only real nationalism in canada would seem to be in quebec...which for obvious reasons would not care about the British king