Its good to know that Pro-Palestinian protestors and Pro-Israel protestors can find common ground

[Fluffypants]

F- Joe Biden

 

[eyeball]

The most common ground has always been that which is occupied by the governed.

[Nationalist]

Lol...the woke agenda begins to destroy itself.

[CdnFox]

So in the end Biden was a unifying force.....

[SpankyMcFarland]

The US has provided zero leadership on Gaza and that looks set to continue. Netanyahu can do what he likes. 

[CdnFox]

43 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The US has provided zero leadership on Gaza and that looks set to continue. Netanyahu can do what he likes. 

Biden was trying to please both sides at the same time. He promised Aid to Israel and offered support but at the same time he slow walked that aid a great deal and yelled at Israel every time they put pressure on Gaza.

When you try and make everybody happy you just make a mess. It has dragged out the war and left many dead that didn't need to be.

I suspect trump will pick one side or the other and the war will come to an end relatively quickly. From the looks of things he will pick Israel and he will go after not only Gaza but Iran hard along with some of the other proxy holders. 

I doubt the conflict continues much past march or april. 

[herbie]

3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The US has provided zero leadership on Gaza and that looks set to continue. Netanyahu can do what he likes. 

The US President is only the "leader" in the USA not in Gaza, the Middle East or anywhere else on the planet. And no other foreign leader has made half the effort to find a solution.
Netanyahu really can do what he likes and so will Hamas. They're the problem, not Biden.

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, herbie said:

The US President is only the "leader" in the USA not in Gaza, the Middle East or anywhere else on the planet. And no other foreign leader has made half the effort to find a solution.
Netanyahu really can do what he likes and so will Hamas. They're the problem, not Biden.

I don't know if that's the dumbest thing you've ever said, but it's definitely in the running

[User]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I don't know if that's the dumbest thing you've ever said, but it's definitely in the running

Hell, it's not even coherent enough to be considered dumb. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, User said:

Hell, it's not even coherent enough to be considered dumb. 

That's only because you don't have a secret Herbie decoder ring. Here, let me run it through mine for you

"Orange man bad, capitalist bad, communist good, you go away now"

Hmmm Why is it ALWAYS the same message?

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 12/15/2024 at 9:34 PM, herbie said:

The US President is only the "leader" in the USA not in Gaza, the Middle East or anywhere else on the planet. And no other foreign leader has made half the effort to find a solution.
Netanyahu really can do what he likes and so will Hamas. They're the problem, not Biden.

America supplies a lot of the bombs for Israel’s campaign in Gaza. It has leverage if it chose to use it. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

They don’t really find common ground here. For Palestinians, Biden is too pro-Israel. For Netanyahu and the like, he’s not pro-Israel enough, incredibly . 

[SpankyMcFarland]

In any negotiation between Hamas and Israel, America should be viewed as being on the Israeli side. That’s the reality of it. Biden and his hapless spokespersons have bleated about the devastation in Gaza right through the war but they have meekly continued to supply Israel with everything it wants. Trump will abandon the pretence of mediation completely which will be worse for Palestinians but perhaps less irritating for the rest of the world. 

[ironstone]

6 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

They don’t really find common ground here. For Palestinians, Biden is too pro-Israel. For Netanyahu and the like, he’s not pro-Israel enough, incredibly . 

The West also has some leverage in Gaza in that they could stop funding the Palestinian Authority and UNRWA(funding Hamas) but they don't use it.

[herbie]

7 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

America supplies a lot of the bombs for Israel’s campaign in Gaza. It has leverage if it chose to use it. 

They chose back in 1948 and are afraid not supporting Israel no matter how obscene their actions get would be changing their position in light of new facts and therefore communism.
 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

They chose back in 1948 and are afraid not supporting Israel no matter how obscene their actions get would be changing their position in light of new facts and therefore communism.
 

Some days you are just incoherent. And some days I wish that the problem was that you were just incoherent

[herbie]

Not all of us are blessed with thee skill of  comprehension.

[Legato]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Not all of us are blessed with thee skill of  comprehension.

No comprende