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17 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It didn't work.  The whistleblower was harassed through retribution by an authority over her by getting kicked out of her job, then her party, and when she ran as an independent she wasn't re-elected, and the Liberals got re-elected into government.  Thus far I don't recall Trudeau or the head of the Privy Council being punished.

We're just lucky that JWR was an honest enough person to put her ethics and our democracy above her own career.  Every other MP chose their own careers over our democracy when they voted her out.  It was vile.

The best argument that I've ever seen for women in the workplace is the women of the LPOC.

I don't know what % of the Lib MPs were women, but aside from Joel Lightbound, only the women have stood up to Justin Trudeau in a meaningful way afaik.

JWR, Philpott, Alleslev and CC-C all left the Libs for political reasons, the only men who left did so for their own personal reasons. 

The 'men' in the LPOC are all gutless losers imo.

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1 minute ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Jordan Peterson getting lots of attention in the two recent threads . . . the left wing-a-dings on here hate truth.

They hate truth, and they hate those who are willing to stand up and say the truth and who refuse to be cancelled.  So jorden is annoying to them two times :) 

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Scotland is now grappling with its new hate law.  It has been receiving a vast amount of hate complaints.  The police are overwhelmed trying to deal with the number of complaints.  It may be just a tool for people who feel offended or simply disagree with something someone said to launch complaints.

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Oh dear. As the furore around Scotland’s Hate Crime Act extends into its sixth day, there are now fears about police spending as the force looks set to struggle with the sheer volume of complaints. The Scottish Police Federation has said that, since the Act was implemented on Monday, 40 officers a day have been required to work overtime to help tackle reports. With officers being paid time and a third for working extra hours, there are concerns about overstretching the Police Scotland budget. What a mess…

Over 3,000 hate crime complaints were submitted in the first 24 hours of the Act and the Scottish Tories have predicted that at this rate, over 1 million reports could be made in the first year of the new law – though Mr S rather doubts the rate of complaints will continue at the same pace.

A major issue with the new law is that while Police Scotland said last month that it would not investigate certain minor crimes any longer, the force is having to look at every single report made under Humza Yousaf’s Hate Crime Act. Police training has been rather disorganised, prompting fears that an already overstretched and under-resourced force will reach ‘breaking point’, in the words of SPF general secretary David Kennedy, who warned that the new law ‘has just piled on the pressure’.

The Scottish government has so far continued to support the controversial new law, while other parties have made some subtle u-turns. Though she voted in favour of it initially, Alba’s Ash Regan is now calling for the law to be repealed while Labour’s Anas Sarwar says he would amend the Act if he was first minister. Will Yousaf now concede that his hate law has thrown the country into chaos? Don’t count on it…    unquote

The Spectator

Scotland’s police at ‘breaking point’ over new hate law | The Spectator

 

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On 4/4/2024 at 12:59 PM, Venandi said:

It's the pervasive use of this fallacy that I find fascinating, in most cases it's a desperate deflection that flies in the face of common sense, real issues get totally ignored, and later, largely because of it, a bunch of easily anticipated WTF did you think was going to happen questions get asked.

The people who use this fallacy to shutdown others would likely balk at the idea that they needed a Phd in anthropology before suggesting to their teenage daughter that it was a bad idea to quit high school and move in with a  28 year old boyfriend. 

You don't need a masters in criminology to recognize that the bulk of a police budget is personnel expenses either, run that by most 10 year olds and they'll suggest that cutting funding will lead to attrition. Throw in vilifying the department, easy bail, and raising felony/indictable offence limits (on shop lifting) and the result isn't, by any playground definition, an unexpected or unintended consequence. Take the madness a step further and eliminate all police responses below the new felony threshold (due to personnel shortages) and robbers will start carrying calculators. 

The idea that transgender women (meaning uncut males) would infiltrate women's sports isn't surprising either... is it?

I'd suggest that anyone shocked by any of this needs to listen to people like JP a little more attentively, even if he's shouting naked from the roof.

Most amazing of all is that In this particular example, much of the support the transgender community received actually came from young laddies who ultimately had the most to loose. 

Explaining that support may require a Phd but there's a huge gulf between explaining why and anticipating some of the potential negative effects.

 

 

 

?  What ?

 

I can learn something from a dead skunk, I suppose, but not much.

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

?  What ?

 

I can learn something from a dead skunk, I suppose, but not much.

Mike  - you ONLY listen to things that validate the opinions you already have.  You practically brag about how you don't read other things or that which doesn't confirm your bias.

So at the end of the day - you probably can't learn much from anything.  If you open your mind a crack you'd learn a lot more.

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I can learn something from a dead skunk, I suppose, but not much.

The skunk's sacrifice deserves a bit more credit I think, he actually helped make my point.

Smelling your own butt in the middle of a busy highway comes with potential consequences and if you need the services of a road engineer to identify them it may already be too late. 

A thoughtful skunk, even in the absence of an engineering assessment, would have applied common sense, anticipated the hazards and looked both ways before crossing.

That was my point...

 

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