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59 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But the fact is as expected the law did it's job and justin got busted.

JWR did her job.

Care to explain how the law would have worked if she'd been corrupt and did as she was told? Fear of consequences?

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The problem is that there's no consequences - because people like you keep voting for them.

Well, I guess that would mean the Liberals that voted for JWR are the hero's here.

That said, no one went to jail. Because Harper's Act is useless.

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1 minute ago, eyeball said:

JWR did her job.

Care to explain how the law would have worked if she'd been corrupt and did as she was told? Fear of consequences?

Not with YOU voters around - she and the libs would have known that if they broke the law that you'd make sure they were returned to power anyway.

The idea was always that if crime was exposed the voters would punish the party involved. The system worked great - it was exposed and stopped and... people like you said "no problem - here's your reward".

As long as left wing voters are willing to reward politicans for corrupt behavior they can get away with anything. Democracy REQUIRES that the people hold the gov't to account and you people don't, you're happy to reward corrupt behavior.  That's the kind of people you are. Nothing changes till that changes. Thankfully it sounds like the younger generation is learning that it's wrong to be woke and are willing to do something about your corruption.

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21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not with YOU voters around

You can't, because you know without the honesty and integrity shown by a former Liberal politician that Harper's Act wouldn't have prevented a thing, it wouldn't have caught, investigated, charged or convicted anyone.

Because it's as useless and empty as your defense of it.

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You can't, because you know without the honesty and integrity shown by a former Liberal politician that Harper's Act wouldn't have prevented a thing, it wouldn't have caught, investigated, charged or convicted anyone.

Because it's as useless and empty as your defense of it.

So you admit that the problem is you and your kind's tolerance of the corruption?

Harper's laws did exactly what they were supposed to - it's you who failed to do your job

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So you admit that the problem is you and your kind's tolerance of the corruption?

No I'm as surprised as you that it was entirely because an honest Liberal Cabinet Minister blew the whistle on Trudeau.

You simply can't get over your shock because if you did your head would explode.

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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No I'm as surprised as you that it was entirely because an honest Liberal Cabinet Minister blew the whistle on Trudeau.

You simply can't get over your shock because if you did your head would explode.

🎯 Bullseye.

We are all surprised when the system works. But it does sometimes. But also not completely...

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5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No I'm as surprised as you that it was entirely because an honest Liberal Cabinet Minister blew the whistle on Trudeau.

 

The libs tend to get caught regardless - remember shawinigate, and adscam and the sponsorship scandal issues?

The law worked as intended. And they got caught.  And you rewarded them for their crimes.

So - the problem isn't the law.

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

🎯 Bullseye.

We are all surprised when the system works. But it does sometimes. But also not completely...

His claim is that when it doesn't work it's harper's fault.  :)

But the problem isn't the system. It works very well - trudeau has been caught in a LOT of monkey business.

The problem is the voters who blow it off. Much like eyeball and you do.

If voters had a zero tolerance for corruption we'd have honest gov'ts.  Becasue it would be worth their time. Harper fired a minister for spending  14 dollars on orange juice.

Now we have nothing but corruption and it's not the system or teh politicians who are at fault.

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

And you rewarded them for their crimes.

Gotta receipt/cite/copy of my ballot for that claim?

LOL!

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

His claim is that when it doesn't work it's harper's fault.

Sure kid...I only claimed that Harper's Accountability Act was useless at doing anything to prevent the SNC Lavalin Affair from happening and that it was always due to JWR's whistle blowing that it ever came to light.

How on Earth could a crime that Trudeau committed be Harper's fault?  A time machine...quantum entanglement...voodoo, what's your bullshit excuse going to be this time? 

Whatever other claims you attribute to me are complete horseshit.

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

If voters had a zero tolerance for corruption we'd have honest gov'ts. 

There'll always be enough of you chuds who have zero tolerance for evidence that counters whatever you think/say/do to keep us mired in shit forever.

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59 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Gotta receipt/cite/copy of my ballot for that claim?

LOL!

Yeah - election's canada posted the results :)

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Sure kid...I only claimed that Harper's Accountability Act was useless at doing anything to prevent the SNC Lavalin Affair

But it did prevent it. The affair was that they tried and failed. So yet again you lied to try to blame harper.

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How on Earth could a crime that Trudeau committed be Harper's fault? 

Yet you consistently say it is - you've gone whole threads on it.  Claiming that Harper should have passed it in such a way that justin couldn't change it of all things :)    We have the receipt :)    LOLOL

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Whatever other claims you attribute to me are complete horseshit.

THat's because that's what you're full of :)

Harpers law worked.  Your argument is that if it hadn't worked then it wouldn't have worked.  But it worked.

What DIDN'T work is after justin got busted people like you didn't punish him. That's what we need to work on

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On 4/3/2024 at 3:22 AM, Michael Hardner said:

No hatred for Peterson just to point out that he is known for speaking of things he's not expert or even TRAINED in.  Just read that first paragraph.

And the only reason he's in the public arena,  was another dire warning (compelled speech) that he had to retract when he appeared before parliament.

People need to hold public figures accountable for what they say, especially experts.

It's weird that a guy who vouches for CBC and CNN, with their braindead cultists like Rosemary Barton and [insert name of anyone on CNN here] would have to chime in to warn us of the dangers of listening to Dr Jordan Peterson. 

You listen to Trudeau and Biden ffs. Are you being serious right now? 

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On 4/2/2024 at 9:47 PM, Zeitgeist said:

All of this is concerning, but half the posters on here spend their time defending or denying that any of this is happening or worth worrying about.  Some simply have a visceral hatred or jealousy of Peterson, so they disagree with anything he says because he says it.

The Dems must have pissed themselves laughing listening to that.

"Uhh, look around, dumbass. We already have the FBI committing crimes for us, they run election interference for us, they shake down people they've indicted for false testimony against political opponents, they cover up our crimes, they prosecute our political opponents, they lie to courts to get warrants to spy on our political opponents... You're about a decade behind, Petey. Elvis has already left the building."

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The affair was that they tried and failed. So yet again you lied to try to blame harper.

Nope, it was entirely Trudeau's fault and you can be sure Trudeau blames it entirely on Jody Wilson-Raybould.

But hey you can always take solace in the fact the RCMP said there was insufficient evidence to charge Trudeau with anything.

Of course the RCMP had a pretty worthless law to work with so go figure.

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On 4/3/2024 at 4:35 AM, Michael Hardner said:

1. This is exactly the problem.  People think that they're experts, and Peterson is the embodiment of this pernicious form of laziness and vanity.

Wrong.

People know when they're being lied to, and not many people of standing have the balls to stand up to the alt-left cancel culture horde and say it. 

All the leftard furore about "Women are as good at men at....!!!" was always BS, and ironically it took leftard trans-women mopping up in all the various women's sports who put the final nail in that coffin. 

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3. Another facet of the problem, people equating suppression of speech with not being listened to. 

Suppression of speech is just that: suppression of speech. Thanks for noticing it.

Banning people from social media for telling the truth is the very worst form of suppression of speech. Makes sense, right? 

The people who have to sit at home and watch the covid BS on TV and see the covid propaganda on social media want to talk to their friends about it there but they can't, because FB and Twitter are part of TNI and TNI work for the Libs/Dems. 

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Peterson has reached a point where he's now ignored by serious intellectuals and thought leaders.

Wrong again. I feel like I'm your mom and you're 6.

Peterson is ignored by people who ignore/cancel the truth and who can't handle honest intellectual debate. 

FYI not all intellectuals have the balls to speak freely: a lot of intellectuals are nerds who have been social misfits all their lives, and their PhDs are their only ticket to credibility. They're not gonna let the cancel culture mob steamroll them just for the sake of truth and integrity, they gonna suckle at the power teat for as long as they can.

Look at what happened to Didier Raoult... He dared stand in the way of the covid jab mob and his PhD might as well say Dr Bobo now... He's one of the pre-eminent virologists of the 21st century and he was openly ridiculed by every leftard cultist on the planet. 

How any pencilnecks are gonna risk getting the Raoult treatment? 2%?

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

There'll always be enough of you chuds who have zero tolerance for evidence that counters whatever you think/say/do to keep us mired in shit forever.

Awww little guy - i see you're butthurt about being called out for your support of women-mutilating terrorists.

A very reasonable bar was set for the evidence and was met and it was presented to people who were in a position to report on it.  While it COULD somehow be an elaborate fraud no sane person would believe that was remotely likely.

Your reason for denying the truth has nothing to do with 'evidence' and has everything to do with attempting to keep up the justification for your support for baby killing women mutilating terrorists who started a war.  And that is based on your dislike of the people they hurt.

Sorry - that makes you a pretty bad person and there's just no excusing that.

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4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

🎯 Bullseye.

We are all surprised when the system works. But it does sometimes. But also not completely...

It didn't work.  The whistleblower was harassed through retribution by an authority over her by getting kicked out of her job, then her party, and when she ran as an independent she wasn't re-elected, and the Liberals got re-elected into government.  Thus far I don't recall Trudeau or the head of the Privy Council being punished.

We're just lucky that JWR was an honest enough person to put her ethics and our democracy above her own career.  Every other MP chose their own careers over our democracy when they voted her out.  It was vile.

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8 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It didn't work.  The whistleblower was harassed through retribution by an authority over her by getting kicked out of her job, then her party, and when she ran as an independent she wasn't re-elected, and the Liberals got re-elected into government.  Thus far I don't recall Trudeau or the head of the Privy Council being punished.

 

The punishment was supposed to be from the voters. That's who punishes politiicans. That didnt' happen.

It DID work to stop snc getting the deal tho - that did not happen

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1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

The whistleblower was harassed through retribution by an authority over her by getting kicked out of her job, then her party

There could have been something left out of the Federal Accountability Act that allowed for that to happen. Don't get me wrong its a start and it certainly has a snappy to-the-point name!  But it clearly needs amending and lots of it, if SNC was the FAA's first real test its proven way to lame for what's required.  I'd also make changes to the Lobbying Act - which by rights should just be rolled into the FAA.

Prevention needs to be the operative word not...lets hope it works.

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10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

There could have been something left out of the Federal Accountability Act that allowed for that to happen. Don't get me wrong its a start and it certainly has a snappy to-the-point name!  But it clearly needs amending and lots of it, if SNC was the FAA's first real test its proven way to lame for what's required.  I'd also make changes to the Lobbying Act - which by rights should just be rolled into the FAA.

Prevention needs to be the operative word not...lets hope it works.

Anything to excuse your own failures.  The left has no moral compass in the slightest.

All that needed to happen was for you to not vote him back in. That's it. If you people believed in that instead of being so blinded by your hatred of others then we woudl'nt have corruption problmes.  But as long as you'll reward people like trudeau then it'll continue no matter what laws are passed.

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6 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It didn't work.  The whistleblower was harassed through retribution by an authority over her by getting kicked out of her job, then her party, and when she ran as an independent she wasn't re-elected, and the Liberals got re-elected into government.  Thus far I don't recall Trudeau or the head of the Privy Council being punished.

We're just lucky that JWR was an honest enough person to put her ethics and our democracy above her own career.  Every other MP chose their own careers over our democracy when they voted her out.  It was vile.

Like I said, not completely. But an official acted ethically, in that the information got to the public.  They did not care enough to unseat the government. 

I think we're on the same page here. 

 

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37 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

we appreciate you posting your brain scan again - have you considered trying to have a thought so there's a least SOMETHING in there for them to look at?   :)

Oh, that's just a quote of you saying nothing.

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6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Oh i said something, so that must be a quote of you understanding nothing :)

No you clearly had nothing to say so you pasted your usual blather.

If somethings finally come to you that's worth commenting on let's hear it?

 

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