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I remember hearing about this while watching TV.

Canadian school board to invite all students to graduation, citing keeping some on the sidelines isn't inclusive.

Also the term graduation, points to the haves and have nots, so commencement ceremonies are more inclusive.

This brings me to the question. 

Are grades discriminatory?

Do these enforce classism?

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4 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

(2021; Ontario Court declares that the Ontario Math Proficiency Test is Unconstitutional)

Oh, wow. 

Math is seen as racist to some, as Black people tend to struggle horribly.

I think kids need to learn that the world isn't a safe space. Failure isn't the end all.

Failure should be seen as an opportunity to grow. Experience.

I find it will develop kids that are so soft, that they truly would be destroyed by minor setbacks.

I mean, I went to school where there were the general students, advanced, and the fundamental learning classes. 

The latter were mocked for being low IQ.

 

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On 3/12/2024 at 9:32 PM, Perspektiv said:

Oh, wow. 

Math is seen as racist to some, as Black people tend to struggle horribly.

I think kids need to learn that the world isn't a safe space. Failure isn't the end all.

Failure should be seen as an opportunity to grow. Experience.

I find it will develop kids that are so soft, that they truly would be destroyed by minor setbacks.

I mean, I went to school where there were the general students, advanced, and the fundamental learning classes. 

The latter were mocked for being low IQ.

 

A society that feminizes itself to the degree that the Canadian culture did it has its flaws and becomes too empathetic to the point where empathy is placed on things that are not needed.

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On 3/14/2024 at 6:36 PM, QuebecOverCanada said:

A society that feminizes itself to the degree that the Canadian culture did it has its flaws and becomes too empathetic to the point where empathy is placed on things that are not needed.

At that extreme its virtue signaling masquerading as empathy.

I see it like this woke person I worker with who got offended at words like crackhead, but would get grossed out by the rank smell of urine and body odor.

Wouldn't be caught near one of these people.

Its not empathy at that level. Its literally the control of your speech. Constantly correcting your incorrect speech, and replacing it with softer words, which include everyone.

Sorry, b****h, but I curse like a mother f****r, don't like it--change the channel.

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Also, I think it builds character to be told by a teacher you won't amount to nothing.

I had several.

Dropped out. Told I would be a failure. 

My mother taught me to know who I am, and to believe in myself.

So I used that negative energy as motivation.

I have always had a chip on my shoulder, but it was destructive. I used it for good.

I don't think that growth is possible (the recognizing I was fulfilling a prophecy by destroying my life, proving their point), if I am not exposed to a few people s******g on me and my name.

I see so many insanely narssissistic youth now, because nobody teaches anyone consequences anymore, unless you go against what you're taught.

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On 3/12/2024 at 11:21 AM, Perspektiv said:

I remember hearing about this while watching TV.

Canadian school board to invite all students to graduation, citing keeping some on the sidelines isn't inclusive.

Also the term graduation, points to the haves and have nots, so commencement ceremonies are more inclusive.

This brings me to the question. 

Are grades discriminatory?

Do these enforce classism?

No they racist.

They encourage competence. An old fashioned idea. 

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Not everybody is as resilient/perfect as the OP. Most humans if told that they are worthless from a young age.. will achieve nothing. A few detractors are expected but if it is ubiquitous.. it will seep into your way of being. With my kids, my general approach is celebrate their achievements and use the negatives as teaching moments. As for myself, I never had issues in the academic dept. It was always assumed that i would graduate, go to college, and not end in the manual labor world. 

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On 3/25/2024 at 12:05 PM, impartialobserver said:

With my kids, my general approach is celebrate their achievements and use the negatives as teaching moments.

We now celebrate participation trophies socially. 

People expect something for showing up. 

Failure is only such, if failure is accepted. Thats a choice.

Choosing to see the growth opportunity in the struggle or failure, is what is being robbed from today's youth by making them so incredibly soft.

Setbacks are an opportunity to learn, but only if those opportunities are taken at face value, vs preferring to have bubble wrap put all around you and going through life trying to avoid any discomfort.

Look at the sheer (and growing) volume of kids with debilitating social anxiety issues.

 

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On 3/27/2024 at 3:26 PM, herbie said:

Do we need protection of the stupid

If someone isn't as smart as others, I don't see the issue of their grades reflecting this.

Am not a genius, but make up for it with my determination and work ethic. Am also possessing of a low enough of an IQ to overlook certain risks and plow ahead full throttle whereas someone smarter may be far more hesitant.

A parents job is to equip their kids to succeed in life. 

Being worse at grades, isn't amounting to anything.

Am a C student.

The world is literally run by B and C students.

A students tend to be by the book. Creativity and imagination are far greater skills.

I was always told I had too much imagination by students, and professionally this has been my greatest asset.

When all else fails, I still can figure out solutions out of nothing.

We need protection from those robbing kids of growth opportunities, by raising them to be fearful of failure. Fearful of discomfort. 

Embrace the living daylights of both. Learn from each and every moment you experience it, and get and do better next time.

Failure to teach a child this, is literally sending a sheep out to slaughter in a world that won't adapt to them.

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6 minutes ago, herbie said:

and told how to by the A students.

I run the show, as do most C students I went to high school with. 

It also doesn't jive statistically.

Look at the straight A student billionaires. You won't find many.

Someone who is that rich, is smart enough to see beyond what they are told to do, and are masters at figuring it out on their own. Something many A students will lack, who tend to be by the book.

Maybe many A students will find themselves in managerial positions or supervisory ones. But ultimately would be statistically taking orders from someone like me.

Nothing wrong with being an A student. I just don't see it being the end all, if you want high success.

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17 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

We now celebrate participation trophies socially. 

People expect something for showing up. 

Failure is only such, if failure is accepted. Thats a choice.

Choosing to see the growth opportunity in the struggle or failure, is what is being robbed from today's youth by making them so incredibly soft.

Setbacks are an opportunity to learn, but only if those opportunities are taken at face value, vs preferring to have bubble wrap put all around you and going through life trying to avoid any discomfort.

Look at the sheer (and growing) volume of kids with debilitating social anxiety issues.

 

what you conveniently leave out is some explanation. It is not just simply faulty morals. That is too convenient and almost impossible to prove. How about social media and the Internet? When I was in YMCA basketball in 1987... no one in the school knew that I never scored a single basket all year. Today.. that same reality would not be such a secret. Growing up in the pre-internet days, you left the school world at school. When you went home, that world ceased to exist or close to it. Not anymore. You can pretend that this is not the reality but your acceptance of reality is not needed. 

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